Wednesday, January 25, 2017

Lies and weather reports.

Image result for lies trump imagesI tweeted about this earlier. Do you remember the days when we called George W. Bush a Nazi and we were speaking metaphorically? It was just hyperbole to drive home a point: That the man was surrounded by Neocons who had no problems acting out and playing deadly war games.

Of course, looking back, we didn't think that W was really a Nazi, or, for that matter, that he had the heart of one.

How times have changed. This guy....*shakes head*

Anyway, I bet a lot of you progressives would take W these days over what we currently have in the White House.

I know that  W and his band of Neocons had a lot of issues, but I don't remember them being blatant liars like the crew that we have in charge now.

For instance, Baghdad Sean recently came to the defense of Kellyanne Goebbels  by declaring that "alternative facts" are kind of like conflicting weather reports.  (Let that sink in for a minute.)

" Sean Spicer has shed some light on the concept of "alternative facts," a widely panned concept introduced by his colleague Kellyanne Conway to defend his seemingly inaccurate inauguration attendance numbers.

According to the White House press secretary, his use of "alternative facts" is much ado about nothing. He says it's similar to a meteorologist who incorrectly predicts the weather.

"The press was trying to make it seem like we were ignoring the facts," Spicer told Fox News' Sean Hannity during an interview that aired Tuesday night. "The facts are, sometimes when you look at a situation, in the same way that you can look at a weather report. One weather report comes out and says it's going to be cloudy, and another says it's going to be light rain. No one lied to you. It just means you interpreted the data in a way that you felt got you to a conclusion." 

Ahhhm, no it doesn't, Sean To stay with the weatherman analogy, "alternative facts" is like the weatherman telling you that it's Sunday when you know it's Monday. It's just a lie.

But this is kind of how this president gets down: he lies a lot.

Check out this little anecdote: 

"On Monday, President Trump gathered House and Senate leaders in the State Dining Room for a get-to-know-you reception, served them tiny meatballs and pigs-in-a-blanket, and quickly launched into a story meant to illustrate what he believes to be rampant, unchecked voter fraud.

Mr. Trump kicked off the meeting, participants said, by retelling his debunked claim that he would have won the popular vote if not for the three million to five million ballots cast by “illegals.” He followed it up with a Twitter post early Wednesday calling for a major investigation into voter fraud.
When one of the Democrats protested, Mr. Trump said he was told a story by “the very famous golfer, Bernhard Langer,” whom he described as a friend, according to three staff members who were in the room for the meeting.

In the emerging Trump era, the story was a memorable example, for the legislators and the country, of how an off-the-cuff yarn — unverifiable and of confusing origin — became a prime policy mover for a president whose fact-gathering owes more to the oral tradition than the written word.
The three witnesses recall the story this way: Mr. Langer, a 59-year-old native of Bavaria, Germany — a winner of the Masters twice and of more than 100 events on major professional golf tours around the world — was standing in line at a polling place near his home in Florida on Election Day, the president explained, when an official informed Mr. Langer he would not be able to vote.
Ahead of and behind Mr. Langer were voters who did not look as if they should be allowed to vote, Mr. Trump said, according to the staff members — but they were nonetheless permitted to cast provisional ballots. The president threw out the names of Latin American countries that the voters might have come from.

Mr. Langer, whom he described as a supporter, left feeling frustrated, according to a version of events later contradicted by a White House official.

The anecdote, the aides said, was greeted with silence, and Mr. Trump was prodded to change the subject by Reince Priebus, the White House chief of staff, and Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas.

Just one problem: Mr. Langer, who lives in Boca Raton, Fla., is a German citizen with permanent residence status in the United States who is, by law, barred from voting, according to Mr. Langer’s daughter Christina.

“He is a citizen of Germany,” she said, when reached on her father’s cellphone. “He is not a friend of President Trump’s, and I don’t know why he would talk about him.”

She said her father was “very busy” and would not be able to answer any questions.

But a senior White House staff member, who was not at the Monday reception but has heard Mr. Trump tell the story, said Mr. Langer saw Mr. Trump in Florida during the Thanksgiving break and told him the story of a friend of Mr. Langer’s who had been blocked from voting." [Source]

In other words, he lied again.  

*Pic from thedailybeast.com




58 comments:

Josh said...

Like conflicting weather reports. Okay. Took about .02 seconds with it. It sunk in.

My brain says: Makes sense enough. Joe tells you it's gonna rain, Jim tells you it's not. Look outside. Who was right? Should I call the wrong one Hitler?

Might be hard for the double digits out there. For normal folk, it's a thought exercise a toddler can complete, with no more difficulty than using a sippy cup.

Since freely awarded points don't matter in these sorts of scenarios, you're just going to have to knuckle up and try like everybody else.

Lance Cockstrong said...

"I know that W and his band of Neocons had a lot of issues, but I don't remember them being blatant liars like the crew that we have in charge now."

Sticky Dick Cheney? "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction"? Hello?

Brigade Fifteen said...

"I know that W and his band of Neocons had a lot of issues, but I don't remember them being blatant liars like the crew that we have in charge now."

No, they were definitely liars.

Here's the thing, though: The Bush crew lied on specific occasions to advance a few specific policies that they wanted to enact. And it's not so much that lying is somehow completely unique to politicians -- hell, even the most honest ones can't help distorting or oversimplifying complex situations to try to get points across to some of the dumber members of the voting public -- but was more about the seriousness of the lies the Bush administration told. These were not little fibs. When you lie to convince the country to acquiesce to fighting a completely unnecessary war, just as a for-instance, that's really a big fucking deal.

But as rotten as the Bush administration were, their really big whoppers were mostly limited to a few key areas of immorality and illegality related to national security, since their reaction to 9/11 was to go medieval on the entire Middle East.

Trump stands out because, for him, there is no limit. He lies about literally everything, big and small. He lies so often his official "explainers," Spicer and Conway, cannot hustle fast enough to try and clean up (with more lies) all of the rhetorical messes he is making because of the furious rate at which he's churning out bullshit. Trump acts like the mere existence of truthful information deeply offends him and he's on a mission from breakfast to bedtime to crush the life out of any fact that has the audacity to cross his path. Perhaps he is so arrogant that he believes he can bend the fabric of the universe to change reality through the sheer force of his will, like Neo in the Matrix? This is a profoundly disturbed man we're talking about.

Flying Junior said...

Josh,

I responded to your challenge to provide examples of your racist thought to support my opinion that your racist views are extreme and dangerous on the original thread Day Three, comment #39. I chose three real beauties. However, your rampant misogyny blurs the line between ordinary racism and simple hatred of women. Since I am not an expert on race relations, my opinion is not of any great value. I stated that IMO your views on race and evolution are the most shocking and absurd. Dangerous? Of course it's dangerous. Anyone could see that.

Why I wasted half an hour on this...

Anonymous said...

I think blacks are mad because we have a president now who cares about issues other than race(jobs, trade, terrorism). It's okay snowflakes, most of us learned by the age of 5 that the universe doesn't revolve around us. We were upset then just as you are now.

Puerto Rican food looks, smells and tastes like shit said...

The Republicans are going to get fucked bigly in 2018, and then even more in 2020. We will get through the next four years. The biggest thing is damage control.

Anonymous said...

"People who don't LOOK like they should be voting".
And this is our President. Holy Jesus.

PX

Anonymous said...

Wrong. Maybe thinking isn't your strong suit.

Josh said...

Well, Flying Junior, a serious question: If you need necessarily to quote-mine to make a point, do you actually have a point?

You're pulling out snippets of me trying to rub Yiscunt's face in shit*, and me trying to bitch-slap Random*2, as these examples of "racism."

* My first ever post on this site, I was told my the great and all-powerful STEM MASTER Yiscunt: "FUCK YOU HONKY AND YOUR CRACKA ASS FAMILY TOO!" Since then I've made it a point to call her a weave-wearing baby mama of multiple bastards by multiple men, mooching off the government and pretending to have STEM degrees when she didn't even finish middle school. If that's me being racist, then I'm a racist. Fuck it.

*2 Random has been in here making James look like a CRM hero with his incessant need to beg and plead for all white people to go extinct. So I, in tit for tat fashion, argued back at him how he'd argue at me. Though since I'm armed with a masters of science in evo-bio, and he cannot display a grasp of English on a grade-school level, I added a genetic angle to my complete dismantling of his bullshit. And I see how well it worked. He's since ragequit the blog and doesn't come back. I b rite hear, yo!

Lance Cockstrong said...

Beyond the over 4000 lives lost and untold human damage done to our service members, the Iraq invasion no doubt detracted from a better result in Afghanistan, and in turn we might have had more of an appetite for direct involvement in Syria had we not shot our load in both those wars. It also bears full responsibility for the rise of ISIS. No doubt we need to fully appreciate the damage that has been done and will be done by President Trump. No doubt the clowning and fucking around events of the past week are disturbing insights into his mindset. But let's not trivialize the worst foreign policy blunder since Vietnam.

dinthebeast said...

Well, the Gish Gallop is an effective way to spread the attention paid to your lies, so that no individual lie receives enough scrutiny to actually do anything about it, and it has worked well for Trump for a long time, as most of his communication has been verbal.
There is, however, the Presidential Records Act of 1978, which if adhered to, sort of freezes each individual lie into an artifact, which can then be extracted from the mountain of lies for scrutiny by historians, archivists, authors, and the US citizens who paid for the lie, provided that the lie hasn't been classified.
My hope is that Trump, in his immaturity and narcissism, doesn't get it in his pea-brain that he needs to surpass the body count from W's lies, which stand at between 151,000 and more than one million, depending upon whose figures you use,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
and doesn't include the number of people maimed, tortured, displaced, or forced to live in a country torn apart by civil war and the rise of sectarian factions who tend to use terrorism to try and get their way.
With any luck, Trump's short attention span will work together with the lack of twitter war opportunities and sort of wander him away from the toys that go boom, at least for a while.
I don't have any optimism that he won't start a war to call his own, though, because that's just the kind of mentality (if you can call it that) he's operating with. Attention whores tend to jump at the chance to get into history books, and like children who were never taught the difference, don't tend to give a happy monkey fuck whether it's good attention or bad attention.
So I guess I just hope that sheer luck can keep the ratio of mutilated bodies to Trump lies a lot lower than that ratio was to W's lies.

-Doug in Oakland

Lance Cockstrong said...

Oh, and Butt Trumpet is just compensating for his white micro dick.

Bulletproof said...

W and his neocons lied about Iraq and WMD's. Trump hasn't done anything like that yet.

dinthebeast said...

From Adam Serwer on twitter:
"The state of affairs is: The President is lying about voter fraud to justify a crackdown on people who didn't vote for him."

His case to congressional leaders was a story his friend told him, that turned out not to be from his friend after all, as his friend is a German citizen and therefore can't vote himself, so the story is from a friend of his friend. That's his basis for a massive voter suppression campaign.

-Doug in Oakland

Puerto Rican food looks, smells and tastes like shit said...

I hope to see protests increase around the DAPL. This has to stop.

dinthebeast said...

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2017/01/note-to-donald-trump-be-man.html

-Doug in Oakland

Fuck Whitey said...

I hope to never see a white man in the White House after Trump leaves.

It's Yīshēng, Stalking B*cthes said...

All Williams Austrailian Open!!!!

Black Girl Magic!!

random said...

Hardly I just use your obvious bullshit to teach with its classic albino delusional crazy. And as Dr. Wright taught only death is the cure for psychopaths

random said...

Your actually quite the useful idiot

The Ministry of Truth said...

The U.S. is no longer a full democracy, according to the Economist Intelligence Unit, which provides an annual ranking of how democratic countries are.

Yep, we know. The structure of our democratic institutions has been weakening for a long time now. It is not an accident that we ended up with Tangerine Mussolini. His party is working damn hard to wipe democracy out, as it interferes with their agenda. The last election was too contaminated to take seriously. Donald Trump is not a legitimate president.

mike from iowa said...

Wingnuts- biggest bunch of butthurt winners ever.
Josh finally found his level of intelligence to dazzle with his/her brilliance- toddlers (with guns I hope).

Yisheng is a genius said...

Flying Junior said...
Why I wasted half an hour on this...
>>>>>>>>>>

...Is a damn good question!

Why do you care about d*** tales of this idiot's experiences with Black prostitutes? What relevance does who he pays to suck his **** have anyway?

And for the record, I got that from the sentence or two I read of YOUR response which is just as useless and dumb as his IMHO. Ignoring this fool saves brain cells and time, a commodity which you can never get back.

Moving on, Tangerine Mussolini is the funniest Trump moniker I've heard to date!

mike from iowa said...

You mean dumbass dubya wasn't a Nazi? I did Nazi that one coming.

Anonymous said...

http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20170124/column-does-stephen-bannon-live-in-sarasota-county-because-hes-registered-to-vote-here

Another good story re: sheriffs deputy who tried to murder an elderly woman and make it look like suicide. So much for "protect & serve". Keep up the good work, Field!!

James Deplorable said...

"Of course, looking back, we didn't think that W was really a Nazi, or, for that matter, that he had the heart of one.

How times have changed. This guy....*shakes head*"

You wanted Zero to have a legacy.  This is part of it.  You were warned, you had no excuses.

"Anyway, I bet a lot of you progressives would take W these days over what we currently have in the White House."

You could have had Bernie, but you let HItlery rig the nomination system so he couldn't win.  So you nominated the most divisive candidate the country has seen since Lincoln.

You don't see that the push for total Black control of the DNC is doubling down on this failure.  Having recognized the cliff ahead, you're putting the pedal to the metal.  You're going to push the Chinese and Mexicans to vote Republican through 2020, maybe beyond.  That's assuming the Democratic party survives; its donors may give up on it, and it will dry up and blow away.


"I know that W and his band of Neocons had a lot of issues, but I don't remember them being blatant liars like the crew that we have in charge now."

"If you like your health care plan, you can keep it."

"... over the last two years, health care premiums have gone up -- it's true -- but they've gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years."

“"Fast and Furious" began under the Bush administration. ”

The whole world is laughing at you.

James Deplorable said...

"That's his basis for a massive voter suppression campaign."

You don't think Zero encouraging illegal aliens to vote had anything to do with it, do you?  Or 13% of illegal aliens ADMITTING that they vote?  Illegal aliens with names like Azada?

Since you're denying all those realities, why not just deny one more and convince yourself that Hitlery is serving as Resident?  You'll be a lot happier, I'm sure.  Just one more delusion and you're set.

Of course, you can't actually do that.  The whole point of leftism is making other people miserable for not virtue-signalling like all good people do.  Being happy and leaving other people alone gets you thrown out.


"I hope to never see a white man in the White House after Trump leaves."

Go to Liberia and you may never have to see the White House or a White man again, period.

"It is not an accident that we ended up with Tangerine Mussolini."

After 2 administrations dragging their feet after it was authorized in 2006, he's going to Build The Wall On Time.

James is an idiot said...

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Anonymous said...

Trump is going to set back the democrats and progressives by actually doing good for the country.progressive center left is mentally ill.

mike from iowa said...

* On January 24th, 2017, it was discovered that police officers had used confiscated cell phones to search the emails and messages of the 230 demonstrators now facing felony riot charges for protesting on January 20th, including lawyers and journalists whose email accounts contain privileged information of clients and sources.
From News and Guts

Drumpf has committed every conceivable crime in less than a week in office. Cops are breaking the law with impunity, as well. So much for law and order.

mike from iowa said...

Illegal aliens with names like Joe Arpaio?

Anonymous said...

Lies lies and more lies.... Comrade Trump and company are on a fast track to lying themselves and their mealy mouth yes men the (GOP) into an abyss of no return. I personally welcome it because I believe that Comrade Golden Shower will accelerate the white privilege protectors demise in America despite their real goal of protecting it.

Anonymous said...

The Patriots will probably win the Super Bowl, and then buddies Trump and Tom Brady can appear together at the White House!

dinthebeast said...

Yisheng: Cheeto Benito?

TMoT: You're right about the weakening of our institutions creating the opening for something like Trump to slither in. Kind of like when the Whigs fell apart and created the opening for the rise of the Know Nothings, who were of a similar racist/nationalist bent.
Substitute Muslims and Mexicans for Catholics and Chinese, throw in a little Nixon worship, and Presto! Government by sour, orange, turd.

Also of note are the pair of twenty-something goons, I mean staffers (well, one of them is probably certifiable) who just took over VOA, with it's brand new CEO-led structure (no more board of governors) new (since 2013) ability to broadcast inside the US, and $800 million budget.
As for the EPA, the scientists who work for and with them saw this coming back in November and have been scrambling to archive their data sets and store them in Canada before they can be deleted by the incoming wave of anti-science political appointees.

-Doug in Oakland

mike from iowa said...

After 2 administrations dragging their feet after it was authorized in 2006, he's going to Build The Wall On Time.

Good luck condemning Hunt family acres in Texas. dumbass dubya couldn't get a pass across the Hunt ranch and he was supposed to be friends of theirs.

mike from iowa said...

"If you like your health care plan, you can keep it."

No you can't and Drumpf and his merry band of elderly killing death squads will prove it with monotonous frequency.

random said...

What amazes me is how much albinos love pedophiles , trump having sexual deviant issues so severe he can't help but comment on his sexual attraction to his daughters. And associated with a known pedophile in Jeffrey Epstein. Rex tillerson was head of the boy scouts of America and did his best Catholic church impression to shield and protect pedophiles. Its obvious that albinos need to hate and actively trying to kill the first born on this planet because they are willing to sacrifice their own children for the sake of evil.

random said...

It's been 6000 years and albinos are devils they prove that on a daily basis, from king Leopold the 2 and his massacre in the Congo, to cointelpro, to the c.I.a dumping crack into black neighborhoods to Margaret Sanger to electing a cfr Rothschild cry to khazar failed business men like drumpf and even the Bush family who financially backed the Nazis at no moment in their evil existence have albinos not been devils

random said...

Melanie trump the first lady of mk ultra trauma based beta sex slave mind control of the america.

mike from iowa said...

‘Mucho Sad’: Lindsey Graham tweets Trump’s wall tax would ‘drive up costs of Corona, tequila’

Someone has his priorities in order.

Josh said...

"to kill the first born on this planet"

Out of Africa has debunked more times than the crash-landing at Roswell. Just curious, Random: When's the last time, if ever, you opened an actual science book?

Negroids evolved from existing homo sapiens some 200,000 years after branching out from elsewhere.

Go to Bing, enter this term: "Out of Africa theory debunked" -- the results number in the hundreds of thousands.

Interestingly enough, and hella apropos for Trump-hating Russian conspiracy theorists, is the fact that it was debunked by Russians. LMFAO! Oh, I don't believe in this level of cosmic trolling, but sometimes I can't help but wonder.

Anonymous said...

Trump has been President for a week. Has anything changed for you?

I feel very relieved the PC culture is on the run, especially after seeing the DNC chair debates where one candidate said white people should be silenced. Do you think white people should be silenced?

random said...

I know you albinos to be devils by your actions lying is like breathing the only thing more ignorant than your beliefs is the psychotic delusion that I would accept anything out of your child raping mouths. Even the sun the source of all life on this planet wants your kind dead

It's Yīshēng, Stalking B*cthes said...

How y'all like my new avatar??

random said...

If you didn't know that to be true bask in the sun as we melaninites and die from skin cancer we need no the sunscreen you artificial monstrosity

random said...

And have albinos seen the color white because their not that color as my kind is not black when you base everything even the concept of the most high on racist behavior to hide such obvious inferiority your delusion becomes a generational traitor passed down from one fool to the next

random said...

You devils can't accept who you are so I ridicule your efforts to define me and mine

random said...

You ever notice field how your resident devils evade the child rape charges perhaps their Catholics and its just to painful to tempt repressed memories

mike from iowa said...

If you have to devote half yer life telling people how smart you are, you aren't.

random said...

Don't worry Josh obamacare can still pay for the opioids for the time being then back to the knee pads like your childhood

some guy with no blog said...

I guess field negro is worried blacks would have to actually work and contribute something after all the illegals leave.

random said...

I would prefer their complete genetic eradication from the planet

random said...

And every boule black devil can join you in hell

random said...

Study Steve cokely

Anonymous said...

Here here! Bravo!!

James Bold said...

"It's been 6000 years and albinos are devils they prove that on a daily basis"

If we merely killed you and ate you like you do to each other, that would be fine.  Right?  Right.

I hear South Africa is looking for people.  It's ANC-run and has Black Economic Empowerment.  Buy your tickets now, before they run out the last people who know how to run an airport.

Boy James is dumb said...

I hear your trailer park is looking for a new town idiot, your IQ was too low. 150 IQ bwahahahahahahahahahahahahAhahahahahaha!

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