Friday, November 25, 2011

Green Friday, and Andrew Sullivan wants to bring back the Bell Curve.

Today is Green Friday in A-merry-ca. It is a day of crass commercialism designed by merchants and corporations to get gullible shoppers into stores. Prices have been marked up so that they can be slashed right back down with coupons and promises of price cuts in the stores.

Of course, as we all know by now, it's working. Pepper spray, shootings, bomb threats, and mobs at every box store door. I don't think that Jesus wanted us to prepare for his birthday quite like this. Professional shoppers (see Mrs. Field) have been preparing for this day for months. (15,000 at the Mall of America!) So for all of you amateurs out there, you shop at your own risk on days like these.

I tried to brave the "madding" crowd today. (Today. Not early this morning. Not last night. Today!) People watching was interesting, but I just couldn't take the crowds after awhile. I will get whatever gifts I have left online. It's a shame God didn't have two sons who were born months apart. Oh well, Cyber Monday is just a few days away.

Finally, I used to respect the writings of blogger Andrew Sullivan; he was one of the few conservative writers in A-merry-ca who I considered relevant. So imagine my shock when I read what Jason Johnson penned over at Politc365 about Sullivan's contribution to the Bell Curve debate. At first I thought that Johnson's take on what Sullivan wrote might have been misguided, but then I read Sullivan's post for myself and I....well, read it for yourself:

"Two points: research is not about helping people; it's about finding out stuff. And I have long opposed the political chilling of free inquiry into any area of legitimate curiosity or research. I'm not going to stop now. Secondly, I agree that there would be very little, if any, use for this data in our society, apart from the existence of affirmative action. But when public policy holds that all racial difference in, say, college degrees, are due to racism, a truth claim has already been made. So the p.c. egalitarians have made this a public and social issue by a statement of fact they subsequently do not want to see debated or challenged using the data. That's an illiberal position, in my view.

I remain gob-smacked by the resilience of IQ differences between broad racial groups, controlling for much other data. Maybe if we understood what was going on - which particular and subtle combination of genetics, culture and generation makes this the result - we could help increase equality of opportunity. Maybe racial categories themselves have become so fluid and opaque the whole area is now moot. Maybe we should accept that differences in outcomes among racial groups have some element of irreducibility to them. Maybe the answer is to abolish racial affirmative action and replace it by class-based forms. Maybe the answer is to abolish affirmative action altogether (my preferred outcome). But all these questions depend on a thriving research culture which has been chilled by politics. That's what saddens me." [Source]

Holy s^%*! Johnson was right! A big WTF? for my British friend.

I have more of an appreciation now of how Johnson ended his post:

"Because everyone’s work proves that their people are the smartest. In fact, even when Roland Fryer, a brilliant academic at Harvard showed what a farce IQ tests are, his work was largely ignored. Less than 4 years ago Dr. Fryer’s research showed that IQ levels, which are supposed to be immutable, are equal for African American and White children but differences only show up on tests once they’ve been in public schools for 2 years proving that the impact of racism and schooling is muting IQ scores more than actually assessing them.

Of course, his research was largely ignored by the press and pundit mags because it didn’t support the sexy self-aggrandizing narrative that people like Andrew Sullivan live by: Whites are smarter than Blacks, but it is their extreme benevolence that leads them to allow us to play house in the societies ‘they’ve’ created."

Not all of us Mr. Johnson. Some of us still choose "to play" in the fields.

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no slappz said...

up clown stevie:

The median age of most African nations is about 18.

The life expectancy at birth for most African nations is about 50.

Disease runs rampant over the continent. Food is scarce, and probably the only place on the planet where people actually starve to death is Africa.

The continent is a mess, and, as whites who read know, Susan Sontag was an idiot.

Her books and essays are tedious and boring, which is why no one except a few tortured students read them.

It's been said that Life is Nasty, Brutish and Short.

Clearly the person who made that observation lived in Africa -- where very little has changed in the last 1,000 years.

no slappz said...

up clown steve dreams:

Didn't feel the need to venture up other people's land and steal, pilfer and slaughter.

Yeah. There was never a tribal war in Africa. Hell no. Not there among all those peace-loving vegetarians.

Meanwhile, in Rwanda, the Hutus slaughtered about 800,000 Tutsis. Anbd they did it in a month or two.

That's twice the number of American killed in WWII.

Please tell me again how peaceful Africans are.

uptownsteve said...

"Disease runs rampant over the continent. Food is scarce, and probably the only place on the planet where people actually starve to death is Africa."

If Africa was so terrible then why did white folks spend two centuries pilfering the place?

If there was nothing to obtain but disease and starvation, why did the West spend so much money time and effort on invasions and colonization?


The misery on the African continent today is a direct result of Western (white) intervention.

uptownsteve said...

Slappy you pathetic fool.

Over 60 million people were killed during WWII, which was over 2.5% of the world population.

All Aboard! said...

" uptownsteve said...
"Africans never explored. Never went anywhere by ship --"

Didn't need to.

They had self-sufficient, communal societies.

Didn't feel the need to venture up other people's land and steal, pilfer and slaughter.

4:15 PM"


Well damn! I had no idea!

Let's load them all back on luxury liners, which of course have to be sunk after each trip, and send those poor wretched souls back to their "self-sufficient, communal societies"!

That might even take care of some of the slaughtering, too.

Well, send it back home, anyway.

What have we done!!!!!!

Mildred said...

I also have enjoyed some of Sullivan's work. Nonetheless this quote exemplifies that, they are who we think they are. While there are times when we can agree or find common cause, it's important to keep the overarching framework in mind. Rand Paul, Jr. anyone?

uptownsteve said...

White people have eradicated entire populations.

The Taino, The Arawaks.

20 Million people in the Congo slaughtered by the Belgians.

The Australian Aborigines.

No race comes close to Caucasian savagery.

Cry Me A River said...

Nobody misses their asses anyway.

field negro said...

Get em Steve and PC. I love the factual links.

Not seeing any links from the usual haters.

I guess when you just pull stuff out of your ass you can't provide links.

Anonymous said...

"BTW, I just got back last night from Philly and NJ from a great 3 day holiday with and friends."

Steve, you spend your free time arguing on the internet, while your wife is out banging other guys.

Loser. LOLOLOLOL

Anonymous said...

"They had self-sufficient, communal societies."

More commonly known as crime-infested ghettoes.

Anonymous said...

"Over 60 million people were killed during WWII, which was over 2.5% of the world population."

Steve, read again: "That's twice the number of American killed in WWII."

Americans killed. Not people killed.

uptownsteve said...

"Steve, you spend your free time arguing on the internet, while your wife is out banging other guys."

Field, this is a prime example of "Goober Desperation."

ROTFLMBAO!!!!!

field negro said...

"Nobody misses their asses anyway."

Careful, you might be the minority here in A-merry-ca in about 30 years. You are already the minority in the world, and given the fact that you folks are more susceptible to diseases than others....well, payback just might be a b&^%t.;)

http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/world_population.htm

field negro said...

"Field, this is a prime example of "Goober Desperation."

Yeah, that was kind of weak.

It sounds like Anon. might have some sexual issues as well as racial ones.

uptownsteve said...

"Americans killed. Not people killed."

And your point is WHAT?

Who was doing the preponderance of the killing of all those "people"?

uptownsteve said...

Field,

"Careful, you might be the minority here in A-merry-ca in about 30 years. You are already the minority in the world, and given the fact that you folks are more susceptible to diseases than others....well, payback just might be a b&^%t.;)"

tee hee

Anonymous said...

"No race comes close to Caucasian savagery."

If you are interested in savagery, check out the black-on-white murder rate.

Anonymous said...

"And your point is WHAT?"

That your reading comprehension skills are lacking.

uptownsteve said...

"If you are interested in savagery, check out the black-on-white murder rate."

Doesn't approach the white on white murder rate in America.

And you really don't want to get into global rates historically vis-a-vis white on black murder.

Anonymous said...

"Who was doing the preponderance of the killing of all those "people"?"

Steve, if killing interests you, check out the black murder rate.

Are you aware that blacks make up about 12% of the population, yet commit more than half of all murders?

Savages, don't you agree?

Anonymous said...

"Doesn't approach the white on white murder rate in America."

Whites are about 70% of the population, yet commit less than half of all murders.

That means blacks are significantly more likely to commit murder than whites.

I hope you're keeping an eye on your kids.

uptownsteve said...

All in context.

There are 40 million black people in America and last year there were 14,000 homicides.

Even if you accept the "blacks commit half of all murders" claim, and I don't, it's obvious that the carnage is intramural violence between a small subset of gangstas and thugs.

Anonymous said...

field negro said...
"Nobody misses their asses anyway."

Careful, you might be the minority here in A-merry-ca in about 30 years. You are already the minority in the world, and given the fact that you folks are more susceptible to diseases than others....well, payback just might be a b&^%t.;)

http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/world_population.htm

You really had better hope not. Look at the world, history or any city in the U.S to see what happens when blacks are left to thier own devices. I mean if you could than why the neverending interest in handouts? Why aren't you preaching self sufficiency and learn and earn - nope always handouts. Try and deny reality, not one city, not one nation now or ever in the history of the world has been successful in terms of western standards while dominantly black. Not one. Everyone moves out of Black neigborhoods as quickly as they can, especially Black people.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1982 said...

uptownsteve said...
"Americans killed. Not people killed."

And your point is WHAT?


You can't read jackass.

Anonymous said...

uptownsteve said...
All in context.

There are 40 million black people in America and last year there were 14,000 homicides.

Even if you accept the "blacks commit half of all murders" claim, and I don't, it's obvious that the carnage is intramural violence between a small subset of gangstas and thugs.


I don't accept it I dont and even if I did it's the bad blacks. God what a mental midget you are.

uptownsteve said...

"Try and deny reality, not one city, not one nation now or ever in the history of the world has been successful in terms of western standards while dominantly black. Not one"

You're full of $hit.

In Prince Georges County Maryland, the median household income and education level ROSE significantly when the county demographics changed from majority white to majority black.

no slappz said...

up clown stevie says:

Over 60 million people were killed during WWII, which was over 2.5% of the world population.

Hey bonehead, I referenced US Deaths in WWII. Only US deaths. NOT the WWII Total.

I know. Reading is a challenge for you.

uptownsteve said...

"Hey bonehead, I referenced US Deaths in WWII. Only US deaths. NOT the WWII Total."

Why not?

European, Asian and Africans deaths by white folks don't count?

no slappz said...

up clown stevie:

As I've said before, EVERY YEAR in Africa -- about FIVE MILLION people DIE from drinking polluted, disease-ridden water.

The murder rate in Africa is beyond counting, largely because there are no meaningful police forces in sub-Saharan African nations.

Thus, as bad as it is that blacks in the US commit half of the 16,000 murders in this country, the only word to describe the carnage in Africa is slaughter.

South Africa publishes some murder stats. As we both know, the official number is lower than the real number. And the official number is horrifying.

The other black African nations are far far worse.

Thus, all in, the annual death toll due to the depraved indifference to life in Africa is staggering. Millions and millions every year.

A Holocaust every year. Every year.

uptownsteve said...

"The murder rate in Africa is beyond counting"

"As we both know, the official number is lower than the real number."

LMAO!!!!

Slappy one thing I'll say for you is that you are utterly relentless in your hatred and stupidity.

"The other black African nations are far far worse."

Just for yuks, how about telling me what the murder rates for Senegal and Ghana are?

Take all the time you need.

uptownsteve said...

Well looky here.

The 10 Most dangerous cities in the world and only one in Africa.

Several in Latin America.

And of course there is the old Soviet Union, where after the fall of communism, the Russkies are acting like Compton gangstas circa 1990.

http://urbantitan.com/10-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-in-2011/

field negro said...

"Try and deny reality, not one city, not one nation now or ever in the history of the world has been successful in terms of western standards while dominantly black. Not one. Everyone moves out of Black neigborhoods as quickly as they can, especially Black people."

See what Steve said. You obviously don't get around much.

Friendly, Maryland,Roselle, Michigan, Hillcrest, New York,Bloomfield, Connecticut,Quniby,SC,Woodmore, Maryland,Atlanta, Georgia, East Mt.Airy,Pennsylvania,Ladera Heights, California....

I could go on, but I think you get the point.

You can't just make stupid statements based on your own narrow reality and expect them to go unchecked.

The Purple Cow said...

No Slapzz should travel the Moscow Metro after midnight if he wants to experience savagery.

"Meanwhile, in Rwanda, the Hutus slaughtered about 800,000 Tutsis. And they did it in a month or two."

In Europe the Nazis slaughtered 6 million jews, 400,000 Socialists, 50,000 gays, 270,000 Roma, and an unknown number of psychiatric patients.

Meanwhile Joe Stalin was putting away some 4 million Soviet citizens at around the same time.

Let's not forget King Leopold of Belgium who murdered 8 million Africans in the Congo.

So remind me again what do Hitler, Stalin and Leopold have in common?

Oh yes of course, they are all civilized white people.

field negro said...

PC, you left out Ivan IV of Russia,and Vlad the Impaler.

I know it's hard to keep up with these "civilized" men, but we must try.

Mack Lyons said...

It amuses me to see No_Slappz peddle the ever-present meme of how blacks are exclusively savages, while failing to note the savagery of "white" Europeans and white Americans. After all, it wasn't the Negro who wiped out the native American tribes, nor was it the Central American tribes who wiped out their own people.

It's a coping mechanism, Field. Whites are inherently good because they represent goodness, therefore there's just no way they could be capable of any such savagery. If you present proof to the contrary, it's mentally blocked out. Their fragile minds just can't handle it.

But when it comes to blacks, they're naturally evil, savage, feeble of mind and bereft of self-control. This was the selling point of how Negros had to remain slaves under the supervision of benevolent white American plantation owners. After all, it "put them to good use" and "did them some good," didn't it? No_Slappz would probably agree, at least in his mind if not outright.

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