Friday, May 10, 2019

Rudy goes on a mission.

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OK, the following story is just nuts.

"President Donald Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani dismissed suggestions he is encouraging a foreign government to impact the upcoming US election with his trip to Ukraine, telling CNN on Friday that it is not meddling because the 2020 general election is a year and a half away.

Giuliani tells CNN he intends to travel soon to Ukraine to meet with President-elect Volodymyr Zelensky in an effort to push the country to investigate matters connected to the release of negative information about Paul Manafort, the then campaign chairman for Trump's 2016 campaign. The former New York mayor also said he will continue to pursue questions about Vice President Joe Biden's call in 2016 to remove the top Ukrainian prosecutor, who at one point had been investigating a Ukrainian natural gas company connected to Biden's son.

 That prosecutor's ouster was called for by many Western governments and donors who criticized him for failing to tackle the country's problems with corruption. There's never been any evidence that Biden acted improperly.

"I don't want any favors, I just want this investigated," Giuliani said in a phone interview.
    A week ago, Giuliani told CNN that he was done looking into the Ukraine matters regarding Biden, but in an interview with The New York Times on Thursday he first said he was going to travel to Kiev to press the matter. Giuliani told the Times in defense of the effort.
    Giuliani said he's meeting in his capacity as the President's personal lawyer and helping to defend his client. He has called on the US Justice Department to investigate both his questions about a supposed conflict for Biden as well as what Giuliani claims may be the corrupt beginnings of the FBI investigation into Trump.

    Giuliani had previously told CNN that a "well-regarded investigator" he's known for years put him in touch last November with current and former Ukrainian officials, who he says he's interviewed over Skype and in person. (In 2017, both the Democratic National Committee and a contractor denied working with Ukrainians.)

    While searching for evidence, Giuliani says he also stumbled on what he claims is a damaging story about Biden.

    In 2016, while then-Vice President Biden was pressuring the Ukrainian government to oust its top prosecutor as part of a broad anti-corruption push by the US, his son Hunter Biden was on the board of a Ukrainian company under investigation by that same prosecutor.

    Within a year of the prosecutor's removal, Ukraine's new prosecutor general dismissed the case against the company, Burisma Holdings, a natural gas company controlled by one of Ukraine's top oligarchs.

    Giuliani's story is littered with holes. According to a report from Bloomberg, the Ukrainian government's case against Burisma had been "dormant" since 2014, two years before Biden successfully pushed to remove the prosecutor general. Biden was also joined in his anti-corruption push against the prosecutor by numerous leaders in Europe as well as the International Monetary Fund -- none of whom had any family ties to Burisma.
    Giuliani has been shopping the story to journalists around Washington. The story floated around right-wing circles for a few weeks until May 1, when the Times reported that State Department officials at the time were concerned "that the connection could complicate" Biden's diplomacy.
      The Biden campaign declined to comment further and referred CNN to a statement a spokeswoman provided to the Times claiming Biden acted on Ukraine "without any regard for how it would or would not impact" Hunter's business interests." [Source]
      This is taking muddying the waters and gas lighting to a whole different level. 

      Of course he is taking orders from a guy (Mr trump) who has no problem ordering the top law enforcement official in the country to go after his political opponent. 

      President Donald Trump told POLITICO on Friday that it would be “appropriate” for him to speak to Attorney General Bill Barr about launching an investigation into his potential 2020 rival, Joe Biden, or his son, Hunter.

      The question of whether Trump could pressure Barr to probe Biden is coming under scrutiny after Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, said he would be traveling to Ukraine to urge the incoming government there to look at Hunter Biden’s involvement with a Ukrainian energy company that has reportedly been in prosecutors’ crosshairs. The efforts appear to be part of a broader campaign by Trump’s allies to damage the former Democratic vice president’s White House campaign and have raised questions about whether Trump’s team is trying to enlist a foreign government to aid the president’s re-election bid.

      “Certainly it would be an appropriate thing to speak to him about, but I have not done that as of yet. … It could be a very big situation,” Trump said in a 15-minute telephone interview on Friday afternoon, which stemmed from POLITICO’s inquiries for a separate story." [Source]

      "Appropriate" to use the power of the presidency to go after a political rival?

      That is never alright. Unless, of course, you live in Russia. 

      *Pic from


      Bob Mueller said...

      Actual story: Joe Biden abused the power of his office to get a foreign government's prosecutor fired who was investigating a firm that was paying his son Hunter millions of dollars for a job he knew nothing about.

      Field Negro's take: Republicans investigating this abuse of power are the real ethical problem.

      dinthebeast said...

      Let's see...

      Solicit help from a foreign government to get elected? Check.

      Lie, lie, and lie some more about it? Check.

      Get the timing of your story wrong by a year? Check.

      Try to use the government to squash your rivals? Check.

      Must be a Fergus thing.

      -Doug in Oakland

      dinthebeast said...

      Shorter Fergus: Holy fuck, Biden's stomping me into the dirt in the polls.

      -Doug in Oakland

      Anonymous said...

      I never liked Giuliani.

      But his journey from mayor of New York to Trump’s unicycle-riding circus monkey has still been pretty startling. He has morphed into a purveyor of ultra-wacky conspiracy theories, joining the ranks of other bottom-feeding wingnut characters like Jerome Corsi or Dinesh D’Souza.

      And when he’s not spinning preposterous right-wing fairy tales, he’s spouting disturbing justifications for obviously evil behavior. Giuliani claims to be Trump’s defense lawyer, but he never seems to make the normal defense lawyer case that his client didn’t break the law; he just earnestly tries to convince everybody that lawlessness is really great! : So what if Trump did help a foreign power rig an American election? If he did that, so what? Who even cares, amirite? And if he also raped a baby, and then dismembered and ate it, would that really be such a bad thing?

      Trump has corrupted a growing number of political actors on the Right. Bad people have become much, much worse under his influence.

      Anonymous said...

      I have to say, I’m not sure how much cooperation Trump is going to get while he’s in Ukraine.

      That’s because:

      1) Giuliani is working to keep Trump in power
      2) Trump and Putin are BFFs, on account of that whole “Putin rigging America’s elections to Trump’s benefit” thing
      3) Most Ukrainians HATE Russia and, therefore, hate anyone Putin supports

      Giuliani’s “fact-finding” mission is going to find very few facts, but a great many middle fingers pointed in his general direction.

      Anonymous said...

      *how much cooperation Giuliani is going to get while he’s in Ukraine.

      mike from iowa said...

      Screwdy Rudy cancelled his Ukrainian junket because of Democratic spin, or so he claims in the NYT today. Ukrainian 1 is dead and done for now.

      Wonder what the real reason is? Probably still not registered as a gubmint agent.

      mike from iowa said...

      Many Ukrinians investigated by Mueller and represented by Screwdy Rudy attended Drumpf fundraisers for his campaign.

      Joe Friday said...

      I know processing all this information is hard for you. But it's really not all that complicated.

      Trump did not collude with Russia to win the election. We know this because we investigated it for two years and found nothing.

      Hillary did collude with the Russians to try and win an election. We know this because of widely published reports that her campaign financed the phony Russian dossier.

      The Trump administration's investigation of Biden aiding his son's graft in Ukraine, should it proceed, will be based on evidence offered by Ukrainian government that was discovered in their investigation of the firm involved.

      The Obama administration attempted to influence the election by taking the extraordinary step of spying on the opposition campaign based on evidence they knew was not credible. They thought President Hillary would cover their tracks, but they lost. So they leaked false information to the media and tried to engineer a coup by falsely accusing Trump of the very act Hillary had done.

      Just trying to help.

      mike from iowa said...

      Only in stoopid fucking wingnut land is......Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team indicted or got guilty pleas from 34 people and three companies during their lengthy investigation, which is now complete.

      That group is composed of six former Trump advisers, 26 Russian nationals, three Russian companies, one California man, and one London-based lawyer. Seven of these people (including five of the six former Trump advisers) have pleaded guilty.

      If you also count investigations that Mueller originated but then referred elsewhere in the Justice Department, you can add a plea deal from one more person to the list........ considered nothing.

      There was zero acknowledgement that collusion and obstruction were not done.
      There is much more to come as there are still investigations going on.

      mike from iowa said...

      Another wingnut claims Benghazi inquiry was basically to hurt HRC in the polls. Wingnuts alread6y knew there was zero chance to bring charges against her.

      If one of you stoopid fucking wingnuts would care to prove how the Obama administration actually spied on anyone it would be a first. You repeat talking points and that is all you ever do.

      PilotX said...

      Giuliani cancels trip. Ukraine didn't want to deal with that kind of goofiness. Can't blame em can you😂

      Anonymous said...

      "prove how the Obama administration actually spied on anyone"

      Take out the names and the parties and ask yourself this:

      What should happen to a former president, who, in his final term in office, uses his power over the DOJ, the FBA, the CIA and other agencies to procure the services of foreign agents in order to dig up dirt on his party's opponent in the election, including abusing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to justify violating the Constitutional rights of his party's opponent, then even after leaving office, continuing to work with his loyal followers to make sure that a special counsel is put in place to try to dig up anything they can to damage or destroy the newly elected president?

      gambler2 said...

      Anonymous 3:03 PM

      I'd give him a medal. If it weren't for the good work of our intelligence people, Trump would have gotten away with giving our country entirely to the Russians.

      Anonymous said...

      “on Friday night, Giuliani told Fox News he would not go to Kiev after all, because he would be ‘walking into a group of people that are enemies of the president ... in some cases enemies of the United States.’”

      No shit, Sherlock.

      Even if there were any truth to your made-up Biden/Ukraine conspiracy theory (there isn’t), the Ukrainians wouldn’t in any way help with that because they hate Putin, hate Trump, and hate you.

      What a fool Giuliani is.

      Anonymous said...

      "made-up Biden/Ukraine conspiracy"

      Biden's son was not appointed to a sinecure with Ukrainian company Burisma that paid him $3 million while his father was vice president?

      Burisma was not the focus of a corruption investigation by a Ukrainian prosecuter?

      Biden did not get that prosecutor fired by threatening to withhold US aid?

      Hint: He even bragged about it:

      "“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

      “Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat."

      What's "made-up"?

      Anonymous said...

      gambler2 said...
      "I'd give him a medal."

      Because you're an amoral communist who cares only about power.

      mike from iowa said...

      Rudy goes on a mission..... Rudy's mission in life was to be born with knee pads and a round mouth to advance himself in the world.

      Bigger security threat to the US, waaaaaaaay above and beyond fake HRC and top secret secrets on her personal server is Drumpfuck allowing his unqualified, unable to pass intel security for security clearance and access to top secrets SIL and favorite grope toy, Ivanka.

      mike from iowa said...

      Moar obstruction of justice even stoopid fucking wingnuts can't deny-

      McCTurtle fuck face needs to be impeached and castrated with a dull knife and some no-salve by immigrants from shithole countries like Kaintuck.

      mike from iowa said...

      Moar obstruction of justice from Miss Lindsey from his fainting couch-

      That's the way to fair and impartial rulings, threaten Justice department employees jobs. Miss Lindsey has a severe case of vapors.

      mike from iowa said...

      Drumpf has a new nickname, one E Warren can appreciate- Brokeahontas - because of his losing a billion bucks.

      mike from iowa said...

      Nearly bro0ke NRA was discovered to have paid 275k in Beverly Hills for suits for Wayne La Pee-PeetaiL and legal bills are astronomical. Felonious Ollie North said they lost 24 million. I wondered how much was smuggled out before it got shredded?

      mike from iowa said...

      Every state office in South Dakota aka Northern Mississippi, is held by wingnuts along with filibuater proof majorities in both houses. The people, so many of them, are Middle Eastern phobic and have shit fer brains as this poll showed.

      Anonymous said...



      Bigoted: Check.
      Dumb: Check.

      No wonder Trump won South Dakota.

      Anonymous said...

      South Dakota Average IQ: 102.8

      US Average IQ: 98

      dinthebeast said...

      Ukraine's new president may be a comedian, but he apparently has no use for a clown.

      -Doug in Oakland

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      mike from iowa said...
      I guess this means we should go back to Roman Numerals.

      Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...

      Anonymous said...

      gambler2 said...
      "I'd give him a medal."

      "Because you're an amoral communist who cares only about power."

      4:06 PM
      LOL! Now, that's really funny. Calling me names is the best you can come up with? Are you ten years old?

      Anonymous said...


      field negro said...

      LOL! Now, that's really funny. Calling me names is the best you can come up with? Are you ten years old?"

      "Now now Gambler, that's not fair to 10 year olds.

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