Friday, December 04, 2020

The rise of the faux Socialists.



"Every man gotta right to decide his own destiny,
And in this judgement there is no partiality.
So arm in arms, with arms, we'll fight this little struggle,

'Cause that's the only way we can overcome our little trouble." ~Zimbabwe~ Bob Marley

Progressives and faux Socialists have been chirping a lot about Barack Obama's declaration that the defund the police slogan was a bad idea. Well, I hate to break it to them, but Obama was right.

No one in their right mind would think that defunding the police, or even saying it in such a manner would appeal to the general public. Most people view that as a cry to get rid of the police altogether, and that is the last thing that people living in crime- ridden neighborhoods in cities like Philadelphia want to do.

 I, for one, am tired of these so called progressive left wingers and "woke" people who sit behind their ivory tower desks and in their air conditioned television studios, and then pontificate to us about how good Socialism and progressive policies are. (I see you Mark Lamont Hill and AOC)  It's offensive.  I was teaching in rural Jamaica as a part of Michael Manley’s National Youth Service program before some of them were even born. My Socialist bona fides is quite strong. I know a thing or two about Socialism, as I have lived it and studied it for a great part of my life.

 Honestly, I consider myself more of a Socialist than anything else, because I happen to think that Socialism, in its purest form, is the best type of government for the majority of the people in the world. But I am also a realist, and I understand that you will never win elections in this country by being too far to what most Americans consider the left. The way you win the ideological battle is at the ballot box, and in order to do that you have to be smart politically. This means appealing to moderates in the middle and energizing your own base.

The faux Socialist out here calling for radical change know that it can’t be achieved in the voting process, And, let's keep it real, they damn sure aren’t going to take to the streets to start a revolution. That would mean having to give up their cushy lifestyles and making real sacrifices. 

The only alternative is to win elections and effectuate change by implementing policies that are closer to our socialist principles without the scary catch phrases. And the only way we are going to do that is to be smart enough to get more votes than the other side. 

To use a football and sports analogy: Don't give the other side bulletin board material to use against you. Be smart about what you are trying to do and how you are going to get there. 

Remember, there are more than one ways to skin a cat. Or, for that matter,  a turtle.         

"To divide and rule could only tear us apart;
In everyman chest, mm - there beats a heart.
So soon we'll find out who is the real revolutionaries;
And I don't want my people to be tricked by mercenaries." 

No mercenaries needed brother Bob. They are easily fooled by just about anything. 


181 comments:

dinthebeast said...

Obama was right that you can dampen your own chances at enacting your own policies by being politically stupid.
People can be persuaded, but that takes time, and the police brutality situation seems more immediate than that.
And in a way of thinking it is. Police should stop murdering and abusing people, full stop.
But all of the great civil rights advances we now take for granted were the result of long struggles against the same sort of immediate issues as police brutality, and police brutality and criminality is a complex issue with a minefield of pitfalls and obstacles for those who would address it.
Also, whatever you call it, Republicans will attack it because that's just what they do, so getting too attached to one label is never a good bet with them. They are more adept at propaganda than we are, so we have to win with actual policy and values, and by the numbers, we do that.
But as I said, it takes time, even when it feels like we don't have time, and a case can certainly be made that Breonna Taylor doesn't have any time to persuade people that murdering her was wrong.
But if we don't want any more people to be murdered by police, we have to get beyond indulging our feelings of outrage and do what it effective, and sometimes that is less than immediately satisfying.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Anonymous said...

We need police because there are people like Doug out there.

Randy Mantooth said...

Joe Biden will be remembered as the Rosie Ruiz of presidential races.

mike from iowa said...

drumpf/noem body count last call….12/4/20

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
14,761,062
Deaths:
285,480

Day started at 282,975 bodies.

mike from iowa said...

drumpf's name is already set in stone as the worst bogus potus, the biggest liar, the most criminal, biggest whiner, most dangerous to people all around the world, an enormous stain in world relations, the least intelligent and only impeached potus with at least 4 and possibly more bankruptcies on his permanent record.

He is likely to be the most indicted, tried and convicted POS ever in American history. And those are his best points.

Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...

Field, thank you for your comments tonight. As an old-time, political junkie, I agree with you one-hundred percent. Many people, especially Democratic leaders do not understand the power of words. When I first heard the "Defund the police" slogan, I nearly had a panic attack. I knew it would be awful for our side and I was right.

Anonymous said...

"Defund the police" is bad in two ways.

1) As a slogan, it sucks. Large numbers of people just think it means the same as "abolish the police," an agenda virtually nobody is on board with. And Republicans will encourage this incorrect interpretation in order to drive votes away from Democrats.

2) Even taken as its promoters intend it to be understood, the policy is a political non-starter. The whole idea behind it is that you can take part of the money away from policing and invest it in education, business development, the social safety net, mental health treatment, and drug rehab, and crime will go down. In a nutshell, the idea is that compassion is a better crime-reducer than punishment.

While that may well be true, you can really only sell this to a subset of black voters. To almost everybody else, it sounds like a risky experiment and not one they are inclined to participate in.

Their response, in the best case, if they are reasonable, will be: Okay, FIRST, raise that funding through tax increases that you want for education, business development, social safety nets, mental health treatment, and drug rehab, etc, and we'll see if crime really does go down. THEN, AND ONLY THEN, can you have your cuts to police budgets. I do not feel like getting stabbed by rampaging criminals because you redirected money away from policing in the mere hope crime would go down, but then it it turned out, it went up instead! Thanks but no thanks.

That is what you are up against, even among people who are liberals or centrists and willing to listen.

The wingnuts, it should go without saying, believe crime will only go down when black people "stop being lazy and dysfunctional," and that we should defund welfare and give the money to the cops, who are all valiant heroes.

PilotX said...

Agreed but young folk are gonna young folk.

PilotX said...

https://www.theroot.com/im-not-saying-donald-trump-is-planning-a-coup-but-hes-1845802898

Trump's tax returns, impeachment, payoffs, pardons and lies said...


The Chicago police murdered Fred Hampton and Marc Clark 51 years ago today. America is complicit in their murders. RIP.

Anonymous said...

Good.

Anonymous said...

"While that may well be true, you can really only sell this to a subset of black voters"

a.k.a. Criminals.

PilotX said...

"a.k.a. Criminals."

Nah, that would be trump and his kids. LOL

PilotX said...

What’s the difference between gangs and militias? Trevor Noah knows.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5ClzgYugeqI

Anonymous said...

Militias know how to shoot.

dinthebeast said...

Whether or not you want police defunded, unless the feds step up with some support for state and municipal budgets, it's gonna happen.
See, state and local governments can't run deficits, and when tax revenue is in the shitter like it is right now because of covid, their only option is to cut spending, and the two largest outlays in state and municipal budgets are education and law enforcement.
And if you believe that crime is held in check by policing, then you should expect more crime.
Also, if you believe that crime is reduced at its roots by education and social programs, then you should expect more crime.
And if you happen to believe that dire personal financial situations drive crimes of desperation, then you should expect more crime.
So the policy of Fergus and the goddamn Republicans right now is to increase crime.
Apparently grifting $207 million from his idiot hordes is more important to Fergus than getting the states, counties, and cities the money they need to avoid such outcomes... and really if they do see chaos begin to break out in certain locations he would cheer it on.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Anonymous said...

"See, state and local governments can't run deficits, and when tax revenue is in the shitter like it is right now because of covid, their only option is to cut spending, and the two largest outlays in state and municipal budgets are education and law enforcement."

So that's it for education, then. School will move from "remote learning" to "sorry, kid, we furloughed all the teachers, just watch these DVDS."

"So the policy of Fergus and the goddamn Republicans right now is to increase crime."

Yes, and it's succeeding marvelously. Allowing COVID to run wild while providing insufficient federal stimulus to blunt the resultant economic damage is causing poverty, desperation, and exploding crime rates. Trump started his presidency with speeches about "American carnage" -- and then he made it happen.

Dindu Nuffin' said...

Niggas shootin each other cuz Trump

Al Nino said...

Y'all ready for martial law?

Faith_and_Fairness said...

@Field Negro... I hear ya, Mr. Field; also in agreement with one of your previous columns opining strategic messaging flaws of notable DNC campaigns and grassroots efforts, such as BLM, for which "Black Lives Matter, Too" may have been far more effective.

Interestingly, Ibram X. Kendi, an Atlantic contributing writer, counters these concerns in the thought-provoking essay: "The Democrats Are Blaming the Wrong People."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/12/democrats-are-blaming-wrong-people/617281/

As a fan of the Atlantic essays for years, must say it's a major bummer the comments section was discontinued. Much of the readership contributing viewpoints mirrors the insightfulness of the faithful FN bloggers. Trusting each of you are remaining safe and sound.

Quadzo said...

Well put!

anotherbozo said...

I'm told Black Lives Matter was around before Darren Wilson shot Michael Brown, so it was a little less "scary" than "Defund the Police." Never coin a phrase while you're enraged by something--wait until you can make a cooler calculation. Now it's too late to revise it, but CURE THE POLICE might have worked. "Reform" was deemed too weak a term at the time.

Don't forget they threw the "socialist" label at Social Security, Medicare and every other successful program since. Change that benefits any but the very rich has always met with nasty, name-calling resistance.

Anonymous said...

Gun violence has killed 23 times more Chicago youth than COVID


https://wirepoints.org/gun-violence-has-killed-23-times-more-chicago-youth-than-covid-wirepoints-quicktake/

mike from iowa said...

Citizen's United was around back in Bill Clinton's Arkansas guv days and used to harrass him then., long before scotus decided corporations are people with individual rights and money equates free speech.

Wingnut capitalists love deregulated capitalism until it destroys itself and then wingnuts love the shit out of socialized welfare, as long as the wealthy (white) people get it.

Wisconsin Reader said...


Americans have long had access to free education - libraries - much of recorded history via TV and the Internet. . .But many of us are still ignorant - because we have a majority who "claim" to be deeply religious AND our history of Civil War fought to keep 1 group of us as slaves. . . So a majority of our white people (I'm a 79 year old white man)still "identify" themselves as different from the "others" in our society. . .Con artists - politicians - preachers find them easy pickings. . .The GOP put us on the road to Trump when they recruited white Southerners into their party over the past 50 years (NO - they are not all the same) but enough claim to be religious - and ARE bigoted against "others". . .
Hannity - Limbaugh - Fox News - TV preachers etc. have all gotten rich and influential by exploiting "identify" - it's time to WISE UP . . .

mike from iowa said...

Kenosha Killer Kyle's defense team is as bad or worse than drumpf's. Wait. Some are the same lawyers drumpf has/had.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kenosha-shooter-kyle-rittenhouses-maga-loving-defense-team-implodes

mike from iowa said...

Screwdy Rudy's cheap complaining witness in Michigan just got off probation for computer crimes.

mike from iowa said...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/04/donald-trump-in-court-443010

Lost six court cases yesterday. Some of the most brutal beatdowns of drumpf's attempt to throw out the entire election came from drumpf appointed judges. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!@

Anonymous said...

“Screwdy Rudy's cheap complaining witness in Michigan just got off probation for computer crimes.”

I’m gonna venture a wild-ass guess here and say her computer crimes amounted to her getting completely bombed on White Claw and then threatening violence against people on the Internet who say mean things about Trump.

That chick is the epitome of deranged Trump trash.

Anonymous said...

The murders of Eric Garner, Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, and any many other Black people all happened under the First Black President of the USA(TM), Barack Obama.

So it's not surprising that the Huckster of Hope and Change is stepping out to throw BLM protestors under the bus, now that his boy Joseph Biden is taking power.

A House Negro is always gonna House Negro--even a Presidential House Negro.

Gambler2 said...

Fox News Debunks Rudy's Latest Georgia Ballot Conspiracy
Even Fox News couldn't promote Giuliani's latest voter fraud conspiracy theory in Georgia about suitcases full of ballots that came from under a table since Republicans in charge had already debunked it thoroughly.
By John Amato

https://crooksandliars.com/2020/12/fox-news-debunks-latest-georgia-ballot

Gambler2 said...

Fact Check: Video From Georgia Does NOT Show Suitcases Filled With Ballots Suspiciously Pulled From Under A Table; Poll Watchers Were NOT Told To Leave

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/12/fact-check-video-from-ga-does-not-show-suitcases-filled-with-ballots-pulled-from-under-a-table-after-poll-workers-dismissed.html

Anonymous said...

"So the policy of Fergus and the goddamn Republicans right now is to increase crime."

Yes, and it's succeeding marvelously.


Crime is ONLY skyrocketing where the DemocRATs are in charge.  That goes double for places where Soros-sponsored DA's control who gets locked up and who gets low or no bail.  Those are places like Chimpcongo and Minneanoplace, where carjackings are up over 500% YoY.

This is ALL ON YOU.

Wesley said...

Wisconsin Reader said...
"Hannity - Limbaugh - Fox News - TV preachers etc. have all gotten rich and influential by exploiting "identify" - it's time to WISE UP . . ."

LOL. This old cracker sounds like he just woke up after being in a coma for the past 30 years and his first take is 100% ass-backwards.

PilotX said...

“Crime is ONLY skyrocketing where the DemocRATs are in charge.“

Not really. Crime is also skyrocketing in red states and rural areas where the illegal drug market is as active as a singles bar on ladies night. Suicides and gun violence is off the charts in Republican dominated areas but you’ll only know that if you pay attention to facts and ignore racist conservative propaganda.

PilotX said...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cincinnati.com/amp/4551991002

PilotX said...

“Niggas shootin each other cuz Trump“

White guys shooting themselves cuz trump.

Alice said...

Once you get rid of God, the State becomes God with no standard or law above it to keep it in check.

Atheist statists can do whatever they want because without God, everything is permitted and law is whatever lets them get their way.

News you can use said...

Biden is +81K votes in Pa. with at least 121K fraudulent votes identified so far.

+20K in Wisconsin with at least 200K fraudulent votes there.

+10K in Arizona with at least 300K fraudulent votes there

+154K in Mich. with at least 548K fake votes there.

+12K in Georgia with at least 204K fake votes there.

+33K votes in Nevada with at least 95K fraudulent votes.

Trump won all of these states.

Mystere said...

News You Can Use: You do know that snorting fairy dust is dangerous to your health, right? /snark

Why is is that folk who comment here with numbers and no sources to back them up seem to think we readers will believe them? I mean, come on. This is 2020, not 2000, people. And yet, and yet, there are *still* people who believe that if it's on the Intarwebz it must be true. Gah. The gullibility of certain segments of the US population is a constant source of despair for me.

NYCU, I dub thee Troll. Begone!

mike from iowa said...

News cuz you looze. Total bullshit, phony allegations. Phony numbers. Biden won, you lost. Get yoosed to it.

Atheists are more likely apt to follow laws than stoopid fucking phony kristian wingnuts who claim the bible is the source of the laws they break on a daily basis.

drumpf is the worst of the mess.

mike from iowa said...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ahmaud-arbery-shooting-suspects-pose-significant-danger-community/

Hope whitebreads rot in jail. Throw in Kenosha Killer Kyle and maybe they will kill each other.

PilotX said...

548,000 fake votes in Michigan.😆😂😆😂
As Brian Cohen said, “either they’ve come up with a new way to do math in Michigan or they’re lying.”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DdFQIGUg_Qc

PilotX said...

“Atheist statists can do whatever they want because without God, everything is permitted and law is whatever lets them get their way.“

Um Alice, that is just a statement of fact. Of course atheists can do whatever they want, why wouldn’t we? Should we do what we don’t want to do? So I have to ask, do religious people not do what they want to do?

mike from iowa said...

221k fake votes in Wisconsin is only alleged by the pathological lying loser in the kremlin annex.

None of the fraudulent votes have been proven fraudulent. They are alleged by professional liars, only.

Anonymous said...

Here's the story of Ellie the microcephalic, who lives in the jungle and eats grass:

https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2020/12/mum-reveals-how-her-son-is-always-bullied-by-villagers-because-he-lives-in-jungle-among-wild-animals-eats-grass-and-cant-speak-photos-2.html

The Fooled Negro sycophants are different from Ellie.  You're at least partly culpable for your actions.  You should know better.

mike from iowa said...

California certified the election which gives Biden, the runaway winner, enough electoral votes to kick drumpf's fat orange ass out of DC, for ever, I hope.

dinthebeast said...

Some of us don't need an invisible sky wizard to tell us to do the right thing. The benefits of doing the right thing are obvious to us.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Faith_and_Fairness said...

According to Anon@11:20 AM The murders of Eric Garner, Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, and any many other Black people all happened under the First Black President of the USA(TM), Barack Obama. So it's not surprising that the Huckster of Hope and Change is stepping out to throw BLM protestors under the bus, now that his boy Joseph Biden is taking power. A House Negro is always gonna House Negro--even a Presidential House Negro. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Quite a twisted version of events, Anon. In the aftermath of the tragic murders of the black men and youth during the Obama administration, Pres. Obama in conjunction with DOJ jumpstarted the framework to resolve militaristic policing in the communities they are charged to serve. Only those stances adhering to revisionist history would argue Pres. Obama throwing BLM organizations under the bus. From the fatal loss of Travon Martin in Florida to the multiple gunshots in the back that left Wisconsin's Jacob Blake paralyzed, Pres. Obama exclaims on the national stage and print media that black lives matter, too. Our vice pres-elect staunchly advocates the well being of all Americans with a shout out to black lives and even those who support Pres. Trump.

Borrowing Mystere's reply @ 2:13 PM, which is totally spot on: Be Gone, anon troll, bot, or whatever. Or have several seats posting that nonsense cited by extremist groups who really do know better but choose alternate facts not rooted in reality.

PilotX said...

"Some of us don't need an invisible sky wizard to tell us to do the right thing. The benefits of doing the right thing are obvious to us."

Wait, you mean you can choose on your own to do the right thing? No way! You evil atheists are always causing trouble fro good people like Alice. I'm sure she has numerous examples of atheists run amok.

PilotX said...

"Quite a twisted version of events, Anon."

Yeah, not sure of the purpose of that post. Barack won two terms and can never run again so turning people against him seems like a waste of time. Even so to what end? trump doesn't seem to be a fan of BLM but that doesn't matter either because he already lost his election. Weird post.

dinthebeast said...

Here's Juanita Jean talking about Roger Stone's batshit assertion that North Korea delivered ballots by boat to Maine.
Maybe that Nixon tattoo has been whispering in his ear again...

https://crooksandliars.com/2020/12/roger-stoned

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Gambler2 said...

News you can use said...

Biden is +81K votes in Pa. with at least 121K fraudulent votes identified so far.

+20K in Wisconsin with at least 200K fraudulent votes there.

+10K in Arizona with at least 300K fraudulent votes there

+154K in Mich. with at least 548K fake votes there.

+12K in Georgia with at least 204K fake votes there.

+33K votes in Nevada with at least 95K fraudulent votes.

Trump won all of these states.

1:36 PM
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Surely you say these things in jest. None of them are true. LOL!

Gambler2 said...

Alice said...

Once you get rid of God, the State becomes God with no standard or law above it to keep it in check.
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Someone got rid of God? That's terrible news. I didn't think that was possible.

dinthebeast said...

As of early December 2020, one out of every 800 North Dakota residents had died from COVID-19.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Gambler2 said...

Blogger Mystere said...

News You Can Use: You do know that snorting fairy dust is dangerous to your health, right? /snark

Why is is that folk who comment here with numbers and no sources to back them up seem to think we readers will believe them? I mean, come on. This is 2020, not 2000, people. And yet, and yet, there are *still* people who believe that if it's on the Intarwebz it must be true. Gah. The gullibility of certain segments of the US population is a constant source of despair for me.

NYCU, I dub thee Troll. Begone!

2:13 PM
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Yes, discouraging isn't it? If people wish for others to believe what they write here, they must make logical arguments and back up what they say with credible sources. Otherwise, it's just opinions from people who may or may not have any facts.

Gambler2 said...

Anonymous said...

The murders of Eric Garner, Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, and any many other Black people all happened under the First Black President of the USA(TM), Barack Obama.
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Unfortunately this is true. It is too bad the Mitch and the rest of the Racist republicans in congress obstructed anything and every thing that Obama tried to do to change things.

Anonymous said...

"As of early December 2020, one out of every 800 North Dakota residents had died from COVID-19."

1 out of every 1200 Americans has died of COVID-19.

mike from iowa said...

drumpf/noem body count for today, so far...

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
14,940,138
Deaths:
287,562

Flying Junior said...

Excellent OP, Field. I identify as conservative. You identify as socialist. I think we agree on much. I also agree heartily with just about everything that was written on this thread by the people addressing the topic.

Anotherbozo,

The Trayvon Martin murder galvanized the Black Lives Matter movement in 2012. But it was not solely about Martin. It started out as a hashtag by some sister. I may get in trouble, but I doubt by itself the death of Michael Brown two years later would have started a movement. He was not a boy scout. What's more, the story his buddy told to the cops did not hold water and he was quickly accused of dissembling. Brown was young and strong as prize fighter. My understanding is that he had reached into the cop car and was holding a death grip on the gun arm of police officer, Darren Wilson. There is evidence that the officer very well might have been in fear for his life. It was not a typical police brutality story.

mike from iowa said...

From Daily Beast.... Melissa Carone, a witness in one of Rudy Giuliani’s sham election fraud hearings who went viral for her bizarre testimony, only recently came off probation for harassed her boyfriend’s ex-wife with sex videos. According to police reports obtained by Deadline Detroit, Carone stalked the woman for two years, sending several explicit videos of Carone and her boyfriend having sex. Investigators linked an email address used to send the videos back to Carone, who eventually admitted to sending the videos, saying she wanted to send the ex-wife “over the top.” She faced obscenity and computer crime charges that were later reduced to misdemeanor disorderly conduct.

Saint Skittles said...

"The Trayvon Martin murder"

Trayvon Martin was justifiably killed in self-defense by George Zimmerman, as proved in a court of law.

Anonymous said...

"From Daily Beast.... Melissa Carone, a witness in one of Rudy Giuliani’s sham election fraud hearings who went viral for her bizarre testimony, only recently came off probation for harassed her boyfriend’s ex-wife with sex videos. According to police reports obtained by Deadline Detroit, Carone stalked the woman for two years, sending several explicit videos of Carone and her boyfriend having sex. Investigators linked an email address used to send the videos back to Carone, who eventually admitted to sending the videos, saying she wanted to send the ex-wife 'over the top.'”

Wow, she's even more unstable than I had assumed.

Trump always does manage to find the very best people. If you are working for Trump, it's a safe bet you are straight-up garbage.

mike from iowa said...

Trayvon Martin was murdered in cold blood by Zipperfuckerman who broke all the rules of neighborhood watchers to bag a Black kid.

Anonymous said...

Trayvon fucked around and found out.

mike from iowa said...

drumpf/noem body count produced another 2000+ bpdies today.

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
14,982,683
Deaths:
287,825

mike from iowa said...

Trayvon was executed just like Tamir rfice, Phillando Castille, George Floyd, Arbury and many other Black victims of overzealous gunhumpers.

Anonymous said...

"Quite a twisted version of events, Anon. In the aftermath of the tragic murders of the black men and youth during the Obama administration, Pres. Obama in conjunction with DOJ jumpstarted the framework to resolve militaristic policing in the communities they are charged to serve."

That's absolutely right!

The Obama Regime made important strides in demilitarizing America's police state.

And in other news, Donald Trump is secretly a peace-loving hippy-dippy flower child.

7 Ways The Obama Administration Has Accelerated Police Militarization
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obama-police-militarization_n_3566478

If You Thought Obama Was Giving Less Military Gear to Local Police Departments, You Were Wrong
https://inthesetimes.com/features/obama_police_miltary_equipment_ban.html

Hope and Change Kool-Aid Drinkers are just as bad as the MAGA Kool-Aid Drinkers.

Anonymous said...

Dominion Advisor Met With John Podesta Offering 'Anything' That Would Help Defeat Trump, According to Email Released by WikiLeaks

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/54702

Gambler2 said...

Anonymous said...

Dominion Advisor Met With John Podesta Offering 'Anything' That Would Help Defeat Trump, According to Email Released by WikiLeaks

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/54702

9:18 PM

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"It was a pleasure to meet this past Th in NY. As discussed, I want to do >> whatever I can by way of sharing ideas, raising funds, recruiting campaign >> volunteers, and anything else that can help with your campaign."

Is this what you are referring to? LOL! This doesn't prove anything; Your post is just more bull shit from an anonymous troll.

Faith_and_Fairness said...

In reply to Anon's 8:42 PM post....

Hope and change is not the same as turning a blind eye to the kind of policies that resulted in unintended consequences. Interestingly, following the events cited in the HuffPost piece that you posted, the Obama Administration subsequently enacted measures mostly to reverse the more draconian efforts related to crime prevention that especially impacted communities of color. In fact, see Newsweek.com column, adding clarity to the dismay of the Trump administration rolling back the programs the Obama DOJ created to address and resolve this issue.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-wants-provide-police-military-equipment-practice-obama-prohibited-after-655926

This country is so fucked said...

"the more draconian efforts related to crime prevention that especially impacted communities of color"

Arresting criminals of color is racist.

Gambler2 said...


Kyle Rittenhouse Ordered Bound Over For Trial On All Counts
Kyle Rittenhouse, the white vigilante from Illinois who killed two people in Kenosha during a protest, is bound over on all charges. Furthermore, he may lose one of his attorneys.

https://crooksandliars.com/2020/12/kyle-rittenhouse-ordered-bound-over-trial#comments-inner

Anonymous said...

Kyle Rittenhouse is a hero.

Jon Miller said...

Trump won.

China Joe said...

If you are interested into being enlightened about American politics:

https://youtu.be/acZXridt7wM

PilotX said...

"Kyle Rittenhouse is a hero."

Ypu, he's going to be a big hit in jail. Nice fresh meat.

PilotX said...

"Trump won."

Jon, please visit here on Jan 20th. LOL

PilotX said...

"Arresting criminals of color is racist."

Seeing that POC get arrested for things white men do and get away with that statement is true.

https://www.wave3.com/2020/12/04/nfac-leader-grandmaster-jay-facing-state-charges-allegedly-pointing-gun-officers/

Them boys out at the Bundy ranch got pats on the back. Yeah, no racism to see here.

Anonymous said...

"Seeing that POC get arrested for things white men do and get away with"

You're a joke.

Faith_and_Fairness said...

Strawman retort, as not one single rational poster is advocating that valid arrests of black people or any person of should not be investigated or prosecuted accordingly.

Faith_and_Fairness said...

Should be **any person of color**

This country is so fucked said...

"Strawman retort, as not one single rational poster is advocating that valid arrests of black people or any person of color should not be investigated or prosecuted accordingly."

Actually, that is what is being advocated for when the argument against disparate impact of law enforcement against black people ignores the disparate amount of black criminality.

PilotX said...

"Actually, that is what is being advocated for when the argument against disparate impact of law enforcement against black people ignores the disparate amount of black criminality."

Laughable. All data shows whites are given lighter sentences and sometimes not prosecuted at all for the same crimes committed by Blah people. I mean if we're being honest and not just a racist piece of shit that it.

PilotX said...

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/publications/after-the-bar/public-service/racial-disparities-criminal-justice-how-lawyers-can-help/

PilotX said...

https://www.nacdl.org/Landing/RacialDisparity

Anonymous said...

Remember remember the 3rd of November
Democratic party treason and voter fraud plot
For there is no reason that the Democratic Party treason and voter fraud plot should ever be forgot

PilotX said...

“For there is no reason that the Democratic Party treason and voter fraud plot should ever be forgot“

So why hasn’t Bill Barr broughten charges? Maybe because there is no there there? I mean how many drunk blondes is Rudy gonna drag into hearings?

Anonymous said...

For all their partisan smear campaigns against each other, the TrumpTards/Republicans and ObamaBidenBots/Democrats are actually two sides of the same coin.

That is something that NEITHER side wants to admit. They are political Doppelgangers and, as such, they deserve each other.

Essentially, the TrumpTards/Republicans and ObamaBidenBots/Democrats are like the Crips and the Bloods--two rival gangster factions fighting a (political) turf war over who gets to rule the American Empire.

Ideally, the TrumpTards/Republicans and ObamaBidenBots/Democrats should be both deported to a secure island in the middle of nowhere, where they can fight it out and kill each other off, Hunger Games style.

A pox on BOTH their houses.

Gambler2 said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kyle Rittenhouse is a hero.

11:28 PM
-------------------
Not to anyone with half a brain. Not to anyone who believes in democracy. Not to anyone who is a human being.

Gambler2 said...

Anonymous said...

Remember remember the 3rd of November

9:49 AM
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Yes I won't ever forget November 3, 2020. It was the final day of voting, and God smiled on us as Joe Biden won the presidency fair and square. It was the day that the orange demon from hell was defeated. Now the monster can go back to where ever he came from. In just 45 days, we will free from oppression.

Gambler2 said...

To anonymous at 11:27 AM

You must work for Putin. Your words reflect deep hatred for American democracy.

Gambler2 said...

Inside Trump’s Continuing Failing Lawsuits

December 5, 2020 at 4:54 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 93 Comments

Rick Hasen: “Three weeks ago, I and others in the election law field determined that Trump’s path to use lawsuits to overturn the results of the election were dead. The campaign had uncovered no significant fraud or irregularities and none of the states where Trump lost were close enough that a recount could plausibly change the results of the election. By one count, Trump has lost 46 of his lawsuits and won only one minor one, in PA.”

“But the lawsuits keep coming and coming. They make much more sense when one thinks of them as about grift and delegitimizing the upcoming Biden presidency.”
politicalwire.com

Anonymous said...

@ Gambler2 "You must work for Putin. Your words reflect deep hatred for American democracy."

Da, Tovarishch!

I am an Russian internet troll, who is secretly typing my comments directly from Vladdy Putin's personal laptop.

LOL.

Americans of all political stripes--both Democrats and Republicans-- predictably always invoke the specter of a Hated Foreign Bogeyman to discredit their political opponents or any dissent against their secular religion called "American democracy" (aka American corporate oligarchy).

It's truly pathetic.

1950s-style McCarthyism in America never really ended; it only was updated for the 21st century.

That is yet another thing that the Democrats and Republicans share in common.

Like I said, the Democrats and Republicans are truly the political equivalents of the Crips and the Bloods.

Their mutual hatreds of each other obscure the reality that they are actually mirror images of each other.

PilotX said...

"Americans of all political stripes--both Democrats and Republicans-- predictably always invoke the specter of a Hated Foreign Bogeyman to discredit their political opponents or any dissent against their secular religion called "American democracy" (aka American corporate oligarchy)."

You have to admit that recently Russians have been using technology to create discord in America. Her comment isn't totally off the reservation wouldn't you agree?

mike from iowa said...

Wingnuts are inherently more violent, more likely butthurt over minor issues, more likely to shoot to kill so they don't have to face victims in court and almost exclusively wasicu pastey white in color.

Roger Stone has irrefutable proof North Korean ships anchored in Maine and off loaded boxes of ballots,if only he can prove it because he has no evidence.

One might believe the Coast Guard would notice N K ships in American waters as we have noi trade treaty with them.

PilotX said...

The senate intelligence committee says Russia has been interfering in American politics.

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume1.pdf

mike from iowa said...

Kyle Rittenhouse is a hero.

He will be some big POC's bitch immediately upon entering prison.

Free Kyle said...

Granny Half Brain said...
"Not to anyone who believes in democracy."

Leftist thug criminals burning down businesses and trying to kill people who are defending them is not what the word "democracy" means.

Biden is a criminal said...

Granny Half Brain said...
"Yes I won't ever forget November 3, 2020. It was the final day of voting,"

And we won't forget that after the final day of voting Trump won.

Democracy doesn't work when you count fraudulent votes shipped in after the final day of voting.

Robb Hurst, CPA said...

Ware County, Georgia has broken the Dominion algorithm:

Using sequestered Dominion Equipment, Ware County ran a equal number of Trump votes and Biden votes through the Tabulator and the Tabulator reported a 26% lead for Biden.

37 Trump votes used in the equal sample run had been "Switched" from Trump to Biden. In actual algorithmic terms this means that a vote for Trump was counted as 87% of a vote and a vote for Biden was counted as 113% of a vote.

Those conducting the test were so shocked that they ran the same ballots again. The same results appeared.

ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE SOLVED. (It is worth noting that this was one County, and on one Tabulator alone.

Dominion Tabulators could have been configured with different algorithms in different Counties or States.) The point is there is now hard evidence of electronic manipulation of the Election.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EokAS9vW8AAXJOe?format=jpg&name=small

https://georgiastarnews.com/2020/12/05/trump-legal-team-witness-alleged-that-ware-county-audit-results-revealed-dominion-machine-flipped-ballots-from-trump-to-biden/

mike from iowa said...

As of 10 a.m. Sunday, the Iowa DPH reported 17 additional COVID-19 deaths for a statewide death toll of 2,682.

The website said 1,363 of the state’s deaths involved Iowans with preexisting conditions. (from WCCO Des Moines)

But i thought the fatality rate was 1% stoopid fucking wingnuts.

mike from iowa said...

Rightist thug criminals burning down businesses and trying to kill people who are defending them is not what the word "democracy" means.

Fixed yer faske news post for you, faker.

Gambler2 said...

Biden is a criminal said...

Granny Half Brain said...
"Yes I won't ever forget November 3, 2020. It was the final day of voting,"

And we won't forget that after the final day of voting Trump won.

Democracy doesn't work when you count fraudulent votes shipped in after the final day of voting.

12:38 PM
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ROTF LMAO What Jackass believes that all votes have to be counted on the formal election day? Hey stupid, counting all the votes takes time. I've been watching the vote count on election nights since 1945, and during that entire time, not once have all the votes ever been counted on election day or election night.

I guess you don't know there are four time zones in the United states and by the time the polls close in California it's eleven o'clock on the East Coast. So you think, CA can count 15 million votes in an hour? Think 3 weeks, that's realistic.

No wonder you and your ilk fall for Trump's twenty-thousand lies. You don't know anything!

PilotX said...

“Democracy doesn't work when you count fraudulent votes shipped in after the final day of voting.“

Wait, the ones shipped to Maine from N. Korea?😆😂

PilotX said...

“No wonder you and your ilk fall for Trump's twenty-thousand lies.“

He’s got to keep the rubes giving him money. He owes the Russian mob $400,000,000 so they better keep giving.

Gambler2 said...

Biden is a criminal said...

Democracy doesn't work when you count fraudulent votes shipped in after the final day of voting.

12:38 PM
-------------------
So you expect millions of ballots from thousands of precincts all over the country to just miraculously appear at counting centers from miles away in a couple of hours and be counted by midnight? It has never happened before and never will as long as vote tabulations are kept at the local level.

I am amazed that how little you and millions of other Trump supporters know about the way elections are conducted. Why don't you do some research on the topic, so you will know something about it when you try to discuss it? You know, it really isn't my job to educate you.

Gambler2 said...

Robb Hurst, CPA said...

Ware County, Georgia has broken the Dominion algorithm:

Using sequestered Dominion Equipment, Ware County ran a equal number of Trump votes and Biden votes through the Tabulator and the Tabulator reported a 26% lead for Biden.
----------------
More Bull Shit from the pitiful loser who loves the orange demon.
Or is it money not love that motivates you?

Gambler2 said...

Biden is a criminal said...

And we won't forget that after the final day of voting Trump won.
---------------------

Neither candidate won until all the votes were counted, dummy, and Biden had seven million more votes than Trump and 306 EVs while Trump had 232. Biden won in a landslide!

mike from iowa said...

Gullible wingnuts off down another rabbit hole while drumpf continues to play them for the stoopid suckers they have proven themselves to be. Be a grand day when these stains are all dead and forgotten.

Gambler2 said...

Mike,
You are so right! Well, it's their money, if they want to waste it, why should we care?

Anonymous said...

BOOM!  Georgia legislature is preparing to discard the corrupted election.

According to committee members, that was just a part of the testimony that came before them and much more is still being submitted. Any certification of electors by the Governor of Georgia or the Georgia Secretary of State in light of such systemic failures, the Petition states, would not be in conformity with the Georgia Election Code enacted by the General Assembly pursuant to its plenary power. Therefore, following Supreme Court guidance in Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 at 104, a state legislature, "after granting the franchise in the special context of Article II, can take back the power to appoint electors.”

“We believe we have reached the point that the results of this election are untrustworthy,” stated Sen. Burt Jones. “Such pervasive disregard for election laws by our election officials requires a decisive response. It is time for our legislative body to do its job.”


https://secure.campaigner.com/csb/Public/show/5is4-2bzvwo--sn1lc-qkxshy9

Paradoctor said...

Do our pet trolls vote as anonymously as they troll?

Paradoctor said...

45 more days until Biden's inauguration.

dinthebeast said...

"Wait, the ones shipped to Maine from N. Korea?😆😂"

By boat, no less. You would think that Roger the fuck Stone could come up with something better than that for getting his sentence commuted, but then again, maybe not. These pine cones are evil, but not any brighter than they need to be in order to fleece the Pig People.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Anonymous said...

America is mad as hell, and we won't take your fraud anymore.

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1335395863703785473/pu/vid/480x270/vq8PdWrATWIgVonc.mp4?tag=10

Biden will never see the inside of the WH again.

dinthebeast said...

White guy threatens to shoot cops who pull him over for speeding and speeds off without being shot.

https://crooksandliars.com/2020/12/i-will-shoot-you-if-you-do-man-gun-seat

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Gambler2 said...

Anonymous 2:59PM said....

"......the Petition states, would not be in conformity with the Georgia Election Code enacted by the ......"
-------------------
To whom are these legislators directing this petition? The Georgia Supreme Court? The U.S. Supreme Court? The Governor of Georgia?

Here's the latest on what the Governor has decided......


Gov. Kemp again refuses Trump’s demand to call special session of Georgia legislature to overturn presidential election result, sources say. https://www.alternet.org/2020/12/brian-kemp/

In response to the news that Trump asked Kemp to persuade the state legislature to reverse the results of the 2020 election, journalist Seth Abramson asked for "lawyers who specialize in little-used federal criminal statutes like Sedition to explain to me why a federal official openly seeking to conspire with another federal official to overthrow a democratically elected government isn't a crime."
https://www.chicagotribune.com/election-2020/ct-trump-georgia-governor-kemp-call-20201205-lj4owcrbpvgidc74spaqmb5k4i-story.html

Gambler2 said...

Anonymous said...

America is mad as hell, and we won't take your fraud anymore.

4:47 PM
---------------------
Go away, troll, and peddle your bull shit somewhere else. The people who frequent this blog are not interested it your opinions.

mike from iowa said...

Screwdy Rudy has crabs,,,no he has giant sabertoothed crotch crickets...no he has covid and got it from directly kissing drumpf's fat orange ass.

Faith_and_Fairness said...

Unfortunately, you are correct, Mike: The coronavirus has now caught up with the president's personal attorney.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-positive-covid-19.html

mike from iowa said...

drumpf/noem body count for slow Sunday...

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
15,151,018
Deaths:
288,880

Just a tik over 1k bodies for consumption.

mike from iowa said...

Since Biden won the election, Fake Noize three prime time lying windbags have spent 6 minutes on Biden conspiracies. Ingrateham spent no time. Hannityfuckface spent 1 minute and Carlsucks spent 5 minutes, that is it when before the election for at least 2 weeks it was wall to wall conspiracy bullshit.

Now it is election fraud conspiracies and wall to wall busllshit.

dinthebeast said...

California has to replace a major chunk of its state government now that Xavier Becerra is going to HHS and Alex Padilla is likely to take Kamala Harris' senate seat.
They are both very good at their jobs and I can only hope we get people as good as they are to do those jobs.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Paradoctor said...

Wait a minute... ballots sent from North Korea to Maine by _boat_? Wouldn’t hot-air balloons be more appropriate?

dinthebeast said...

Diagnosis: rigor mortis.

Giuliani Admitted to the Hospital

December 6, 2020 at 6:18 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 276 Comments

ABC News has confirmed Rudy Giuliani was admitted to Georgetown Hospital Sunday after testing positive for the novel coronavirus.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

PilotX said...

Kyle Rittenhouse was crying like a bitch when he was arrested. Your hero is a bitch. LOL!

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-kyle-rittenhouse-arrest-illinois-wisconsin-murder-20201031-ee3v233hdnecnedsat3qsltonu-story.html?fbclid=IwAR0o8jFUsWC7V1oNNH4aT8-aCDRVlNpIQ_32Wu-oC2y0aE9iCj9u1HTOkp8

Anonymous said...

"An election lawsuit by Sidney Powell, President Donald Trump's former lawyer, cites a witness who claims to have seen something strange with the votes counted in Michigan's Edison County.

Here's the thing: You can't point to Edison County on your Michigan hand. And not because it's in the Upper Peninsula.

Because, well, there is no Edison County in Michigan."

https://eu.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/01/election-lawsuit-cites-fraud-michigan-county-does-not-exist/6475368002/

You people are insane said...

Robb Hurst, CPA ��
11h, 11 tweets, 3 min read
Ware County, Ga has broken the Dominion algorithm:

Using sequestered Dominion Equipment, Ware County ran a equal number of Trump votes and Biden votes through the Tabulator and the Tabulator reported a 26% lead for Biden.
37 Trump votes used in the equal sample run had been "Switched" from Trump to Biden. In actual algorithmic terms this means that a vote for Trump was counted as 87% of a vote and a vote for Biden was counted as 113% of a vote.
Those conducting the test were so shocked that they ran the same ballots again. The same results appeared.

ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE SOLVED. (It is worth noting that this was one County, and on one Tabulator alone.
Dominion Tabulators could have been configured with different algorithms in different Counties or States.) The point is there is now hard evidence of electronic manipulation of the Election.
The use of illegal and/or fabricated ballots is an additional issue altogether, but this is sufficient evidence to question the validity of the ENTIRE Election in the 28 states that used Dominion software. Source: Debbie Browning Tift Co Republican Party
I have reached out to Debbie Browning of Tift County Republican Party to request any source docs.
From Representative Jody Hice @CongressmanHice Image
And found this. Image
Found this related article by Corinne Murdock of Georgia Star News. @GeorgiaStarNews @CorinneMurdock

Bombshell: Trump Legal Team Witness Alleged That Ware County Audit Results Revealed Dominion Machine Flipped Ballots from Trump to Biden
An elections expert alleged that the Dominion tabulating machine flipped votes from President Donald Trump to Democratic candidate Joe Biden in Ware County. It was estimated that the percentage of mis…
https://georgiastarnews.com/2020/12/05/trump-legal-team-witness-alleged-that-ware-county-audit-results-revealed-dominion-machine-flipped-ballots-from-trump-to-biden/
In response to trying to track down more info to the original post by Ms. Browning on the Tift County Republican Party page, she said it was from a friend and is not sure of original source. I will keep trying to find additional info other than the articles and prior posts here.
Thx all for help. Looks like original source for this info is Garland Favorito of @VoterGa ! Great job Mr. Favorito! Here is link to Garland on the John Fredericks Show.

dinthebeast said...

Greg Palast has discovered 198,000 voters who were unlawfully purged from the Georgia voter rolls and is suing to have them reinstated.

https://www.newsweek.com/georgia-voter-suppression-lawsuit-trump-secretary-state-1551876

-Doug in Sugar Pine

mike from iowa said...

Powell also named two Michigan counties where Dems got more votes than registered voters, except both counties are in Minnesota and both tallied more wingnut votes than registered voters.

Stoopid fucking wingnuts continue fucking up wet fever dreams with their stoopidity.

Gambler2 said...

You People are Insane said....

Robb Hurst, CPA ��
11h, 11 tweets, 3 min read
Ware County, Ga has broken the Dominion algorithm:

----------------
OK Insane, how do you explain this. The hand count is nearly the same as the computer count.

Georgia hand count of votes affirms Biden's narrow victory over Trump https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/georgia-expected-release-results-trump-biden-hand-recount-n1248234

Anonymous said...

"OK Insane, how do you explain this. The hand count is nearly the same as the computer count."

The troll will give the same answer he always does:
"They're all in on it."

The dastardly conspiracy grows ever larger.

Anonymous said...

Strangely, even though the conspirators have sunk their tentacles into every American institution and are capable of rigging everything against poor Trump, somehow they totally forgot to rig the Senate for Democrats. Oops!

So weird.

Gambler2 said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Strangely, even though the conspirators have sunk their tentacles into every American institution and are capable of rigging everything against poor Trump, somehow they totally forgot to rig the Senate for Democrats. Oops!

So weird.

9:51 PM
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Yes, that's quite a mystery, isn't it? It's especially surprising when you remember that most Democrats believe in math and science!

Gambler2 said...

https://www.newsweek.com/georgia-voter-suppression-lawsuit-trump-secretary-state-1551876

-Doug in Sugar Pine

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Thanks, Doug. Nearly two-hundred-thousand Georgia voters were unlawfully purged from the voter rolls!! Too bad our pet trolls won't bother to check it out.

Anonymous said...

All data shows whites are given lighter sentences and sometimes not prosecuted at all for the same crimes committed by Blah people.

Because nig-nogs have priors and aggravating factors.  Adjusted for those, blacks are treated exactly the same.

Anonymous said...

Patriots surrounded the courthouse in Antrim Co. Michigan to prevent poll workers from destroying evidence of election fraud before the Flynn team could get their hands on it.

The corrupted Dominion ballot-scanning machines are now in the hands of forensic software analysts.  The truth is going to come out about how some 6000 Trump votes in the county were flipped to Biden, and EVERY state where Dominion machines were used is going to have its results audited or just plain disregarded as unverifiable.

Americans are awake now.  The steal is being stopped.  Epstein didn't kill himself, and Biden lost in a landslide.

Gambler2 said...

Anonymous at 11:13 PM,

Where are you getting all this crap? Why don't you wait until you have some concrete proof from reliable sources before you post here? What is you point?

Anonymous said...

FOAD, Granny Mudshark.

PilotX said...

“Because nig-nogs have priors and aggravating factors. Adjusted for those, blacks are treated exactly the same.“

Sure kid. I’m sure your data is more trustworthy than the Bar Association.😆 Why trust a legal association when I can trust an anonymous troll on a blog?😂

PilotX said...

Anybody see the Loefler Warnock debate? 😯

PilotX said...

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2019/12/03/the-growing-racial-disparity-in-prison-time

PilotX said...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/06/politics/georgia-senate-debate-takeaways/index.html

Anonymous said...

Imagine being Doug.

PilotX said...

"Imagine being Doug."

I'd be a helluva guitar player then. Score!

Edie Wyatt said...

The postmodern re-engineering of left-wing political theory has included the redefinition of “privilege” in a way that is separate from economics, a definition of “sex” that is separate from biology, and a definition of “violence” that does not involve actual violence. It’s a language and a narrative that completely abandons the working class, while erroneously taking for granted our loyalty.

dinthebeast said...

If they can get those voters back on the rolls before the runoff, we might just win it. The polls say we're doing okay anyway, but they're kinda hard to trust at this point.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

dinthebeast said...

From Jason Isbell's Twitter feed:

marc maron
@marcmaron
·
10h
Rudy got the Rona sounds like a Ramones song title.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Paradoctor said...

Gambler2:
About Anonymous 11:31 PM:
A fool's insult is praise.

PilotX said...

I watched the Loeffler/Warnock debate and some things stood out. Mrs. Loeffler spouted typical GOP talking points about government healthcare, failing schools and railed against radical change. Now we know there are a lot of poor people in Georgia with no healthcare insurance at all and they would love to get it even if it is provided by the government. I find it amusing that a multi-millionaire with free government healthcare feels comfortable mocking people who need any at all. She also rails against failing schools and promotes "school choice". This is interesting because only about 10-15% of the kids in public schools would get the vouchers but what about the 85-90% of the kids in public school? Do we just ignore them? What is her plan to fix the public schools? Lastly, she is against radical change. This is fine when you're married to the CEO of the stock exchange and use $100 bills to light your cigars on your private jet but I'm betting there are some really poor folk in Georgia who would love to see some radical change.

mike from iowa said...

And wingnuts have redefined corporations as individual people, except for the purpose of the death penalty, redefined free speech to mean it is free only if you have the money to pay for it, and billionaires are the new "Middle Class" when it comes to welfare assignment. Plus illegal voters are all POC in America and in Democratic strongholds.

mike from iowa said...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/03/us/citizenship-test.html

drumpf rigged the new US citizenship test to make it harder to pass and has false info in it.

May be behind a paywall.

Anonymous said...

mike failed the test.

He must be deported.

Gambler2 said...

Gambler2:
About Anonymous 11:31 PM:
A fool's insult is praise.

3:45 AM

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Thank you, Paradoctor. Seems I get praised a lot by the trolls who come here to spew their lies. LOL.

Paradoctor said...

Nameless troll projects, as usual.

Paradoctor said...

44 days until Biden’s inauguration.

Gambler2 said...

Anonymous said...

FOAD, Granny Mudshark.

11:31 PM
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LOL. At 84, I probably will die soon. Do I care? Hell no. You need to find a better way to insult me. This one doesn't work very well.

Gambler2 said...

Black Michigan lawmaker publishes voicemails containing death threats
By Dominick Mastrangelo - 12/07/20 11:06 AM EST

https://thehill.com/homenews/529032-black-michigan-lawmaker-publishes-voicemails-containing-death-threats

Gambler2 said...


TheHill.com
Georgia secretary of state says he will recertify election results after recount
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Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) said on Monday that he will recertify the results of the state’s presidential election after a recount completed last week reaffirmed President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

“It’s been 34 days since the election on Nov. 3,” Raffensperger said at a news conference at the Georgia Capitol. “We have now counted legally cast ballots three times and the results remain unchanged.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/529028-georgia-secretary-of-state-says-he-will-recertify-election-results-after

Gambler2 said...

GOP congressman’s plan to challenge the Electoral College hits a major snag — thanks to Senate Republicans

https://www.alternet.org/2020/12/mo-brooks-2649346287/

mike from iowa said...

Gambler, wingnuts spend the majority of their time sucking drumpf's teenie weenie which does not give them the milk of human kindness. Neither did the birds that shit them out on fenceposts teach them anything.

PilotX said...

“mike failed the test.”

If trump fails the test can we deport him? We’ll keep Melania.😆

mike from iowa said...

83% of stoopid fucking magats polled claim Biden did not win the election. Can't not never fix this amount of stoopid, inbred, retarded wasicu trailer trash.

I have known magats were the crumb dela crumb of the shithole, but it is hard to conceive they all are the dumbest form of life in the universe.

What alternative, private and parochial schooling has done to America's children. They teach to the single R, as in wingnut and kids so fucking brainwashed they are pathetic.

Gambler2 said...

A federal judge in Georgia sliced off another tentacle of Trump-aligned lawyer Sidney Powell’s notorious “Kraken” lawsuits Monday morning—dismissing the case from the bench, according to reports.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/sidney-powells-kraken-conspiracy-suit-in-georgia-chucked-by-bush-appointed-judge?ref=home

رواد الحرمين said...

شركه عزل فوم بالاحساء
شركه عزل فوم بالدمام

شركه عزل فوم بالرياض

PilotX said...

“83% of stoopid fucking magats polled claim Biden did not win the election. Can't not never fix this amount of stoopid, inbred, retarded wasicu trailer trash.“

While conservative propaganda has prepped them for this the trump effect finished it off. They feel as though they have all the answers, are never wrong and can never accept defeat. Almost like a child huh?

mike from iowa said...

drumpf/noem body count surpassed 290k today....

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
15,364,668
Deaths:
290,425

300k likely by weekend.

Paradoctor said...

They don't 'believe' that Trump won in the same sense that one believes that 2+2=4, or that the sun rises in the east, or that eating cures hunger. Their 'belief' is a shibboleth. It's a tribal marker. It's a brand, in the same sense that an owner's mark burned onto the skin of a cow is a brand. It is therefore invulnerable to reasoning, but highly vulnerable to market forces.

Paraballs said...

"Their 'belief' is a shibboleth. It's a tribal marker. "

Says the man who is willing to ignore the evidence of massive systemic fraud because it puts his tribe in power.

Everyone knows the election was stolen.

The choices are to address it now or to end the American Republic.

Either way your tribe is doomed.

Gambler2 said...

Paraballs said...

Says the man who is willing to ignore the evidence of massive systemic fraud because it puts his tribe in power.
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What evidence, Paraballs? If there is evidence, why hasn't it been submitted in court? So far, Trump isn't doing well at all with his 40 or 50 frivolous law suits, many brought before judges he appointed.
What massive fraud? Rudy admitted in court that there was no fraud involved in the law suits.



Everyone knows the election was stolen.
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No they don't. The election was not stole, although Trump is trying hard to steal it. The only people who believe the election was stolen from Trump are naive followers such as you who send him money, which he pockets. It's all a scam and you Trumpies are his suckers.


Either way your tribe is doomed.
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If I were you, I wouldn't talk about other people being doomed. Someday you could find yourself in that spot.

Jay said...

Biden will never take power. He will concede the election before the end of the year.

Scott Thorsen said...

Vegas hasn't paid out on those betting on Biden to win the election.

Paradoctor said...

My tribe’s been doomed plenty of times, by some hardened doomers. Yet here we are: but where are they?

Gambler2 said...

My tribe’s been doomed plenty of times, by some hardened doomers. Yet here we are: but where are they?

11:22 AM
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I hear you, Paradoctor. My first love at the age of about five or six was the son in a family that barely escaped the doomers in their country.

Gambler2 said...

Jay said...

Biden will never take power. He will concede the election before the end of the year.

1:37 AM
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ey, Jay, get a l oad of this!

Supreme Court Won’t Block Pennsylvania Certification

December 8, 2020 at 4:48 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 305 Comments

The Supreme Court turned down a request by Rep. Mike Kelly (R-PA) to block Pennsylvania from certifying results of presidential election, according to Amy Howe.

Washington Post: “The court’s brief order provided no reasoning, nor did it note any dissenting votes. It was the first request to delay or overturn the results of the presidential election to reach the court.”

dinthebeast said...

"Either way your tribe is doomed."

My tribe has lived through a lot harder shit than Fergus' retarded tantrum. Over and over. This too shall pass.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

Flying Junior said...

The only thing right now that is doomed is this ridiculous lawsuit brought about by the Whack-a-Doodle Texas Attorney General against four of the disputed swing states. If taken at face value, these four states have, "Messed with Texas," by unconstitutionally changing their election protocols to accomodate the new reality of dealing with the novel corona virus. Never mind the fact that very nearly all fifty states have made significant changes to their general election rules and regulations this year, in particular, Texas. The seventeen dogpile states and Clowin-in-Chief, Trump himself have sought to join this misguided hail Mary in a last ditch effort to get the Trump lop-sided SCOTUS to decide the election in favor of their emperor.

Trouble is there is no legal standing to bring it before the high court. They are attempting to use a legal precedent known as original jurisdiction wherein a state which must sue another state directly is able to be heard immediately by the SCOTUS without any lower court rulings. This could possibly be perfectly legal if there was an actual dispute between two states. But whatever tortured logic these Texas attorneys are using, nobody is buying it.

Hopefully this will be the end of it as the last dying embers of a fire to illegally subvert a non-contested free and fair election under the thinnest of pretenses really for no other reason that to overturn an unfavorable result.

Trump + Tea Party Republican = American Fascist Party

How does it feel to hate the United States of America, the greatest democracy ever conceived, you subversive little pricks? When you attack our elections and the democratic process, you are attacking the very essence of what our nation stands for. These wicked men and women are so short-sighted they don't even understand in the least what it is that they are doing. Calling themselves patriots and Americans while damning their political opponents as Marxists or communists. Pathetic. This radical extreme right movement within the republican party and libertarians must be stopped and put down on every front. They must be stopped at all costs and never allowed into positions of power. There shall be no quarter until they are all completely vanquished from any possibility of rising up in numbers again.

You people are insane said...

Trouble is there is no legal standing to bring it before the high court.

SCOTUS has original jurisdiction in ALL disputes between the states.  Article III, section 2:  "The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority ... to controversies between two or more states...."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii

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