Some folks would look at this and be impressed, but I am not one of them. These types of gestures and platitudes that go along with them, are all just window dressing that fails to address the real issues that can bring about meaningful change in society when it comes to matters of race.
If the NFL really wants to contribute to the fight for equality they will stop giving lip service to the Rooney Rule, and start taking serious steps to make sure that people of color are given a chance to be head coaches and general managers in a league that is seventy percent black. They can also do a little soul searching and come to grips with why they black balled Colin Kaepernick and ran him out of the league. The same for all these corporations who have all of sudden found a conscience.
Honestly, when it comes to all of these "gestures" of goodwill from corporations and organizations, I take the Missouri position. You have to show me. Talk is cheap, and it will get you to the next news cycle after America's woke moment is over. I am pretty sure, that as it has in the past, we will be going be back to square one, and we will have to visit these types of battles all over again.
Indeed as John Rice eloquently wrote for The Atlantic, there are degrees of racism. I think the days of witnessing first degree racism, while not over, thanks to cell phone cameras, are becoming less widespread. The other degrees of racism, however, will not easily go away.
Rice wrote:
"The final, most pernicious category undergirds the everyday black experience. When employers, educational institutions, and governmental entities do not unwind practices that disadvantage people of color in the competition with whites for economic and career mobility, that is fundamentally racist—not to mention cancerous to our economy and inconsistent with the American dream. For example, the majority of white executives operate as if there is a tension between increasing racial diversity and maintaining the excellence-based “meritocracies” that have made their organizations successful. After all, who in their right mind would argue against the concept of meritocracy?
When these executives are challenged on hiring practices, their first excuse is always “The pipeline of qualified candidates is too small, so we can only do so much right now.” Over the past 20 years, I have not once heard an executive follow up the “pipeline is too small” defense with a quantitative analysis of that pipeline. This argument is lazy and inaccurate, and it attempts to shift the responsibility to fix an institution’s problem onto black people and the organizations working to advance people of color. When asked why they have so few minorities in senior leadership roles, executives’ most common response is “There are challenges with performance and retention.” To reinforce their meritocracy narrative, white leaders point to the few black people they know who have made it to the top, concluding inaccurately that they were smarter and worked harder than the rest.
Organizations cannot be meritocracies if their small number of black employees spend a third of their mental bandwidth in every meeting of every day distracted by questions of race and outcomes. Why are there not more people like me? Am I being treated differently? Do my white colleagues view me as less capable? Am I actually less capable? Will my mistakes reflect negatively on other black people in my firm? These questions detract from our energy to compete for promotions with white peers who have never spent a moment distracted in this way. I wager that 90 percent of the white executives who read these last sentences are now asking, particularly after recent events, “How did we miss that?” This dimension of racism is particularly hard to root out, because many of our most enlightened white leaders do not even realize what they are doing. This is racism in the third degree, akin to involuntary manslaughter: We are not trying to hurt anyone, but we create the conditions that shatter somebody else’s future aspirations. Eliminating third-degree racism is the catalyst to expanding economic power for people of color, so it merits focus at the most senior levels of education, government, and business.
We can increase the cost of this behavior by calling on major employers to sign on to basic practices that demonstrate that black lives matter to them. These include: (1) acknowledging what constitutes third-degree racism so there is no hiding behind a lack of understanding or fuzzy math, (2) committing to developing and executing diversity plans that meet a carefully considered and externally defined standard of rigor, and (3) delivering outcomes in which the people of color have the same opportunities to advance.
Companies that sign on will be recognized and celebrated. Senior management teams that decline to take these basic steps will no longer be able to hide, and they will struggle to recruit and retain top talent of all colors who will prefer firms that have signed on. The economic and reputational costs will increase enough for behavior and rhetoric to change. Then more people of color will become economically mobile, organizations will become more diverse and competitive, and there will be a critical mass of black leaders whose institutional influence leads to more racially equitable behavior. These leaders will also have the economic power to further elevate the cost of all other types of racist behavior, in policing, criminal justice, housing, K–12 education, and health care—systems that for decades have been putting knees on the necks of our most vulnerable citizens and communities.
Third-degree racism can be deadly. For at least the first few months of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention mandated that in order to get tested, you had to go to a primary-care doctor to get a prescription and then, in some areas, also get a referral to a specialist who could approve a test, because they were in limited supply. That process made it much harder for minorities to access tests, because they are much less likely to have primary-care physicians. This is one of several reasons the hospitalization and death rates for minorities are disproportionately higher than those for whites. If the people who designed that process knew up front that they would be exposed as racist, fired, and ostracized if their approach put minorities at a greater health risk than white people, they would have designed it differently and saved black lives. Just having a critical mass of minorities in decision-making roles regarding that test-qualification process would have also saved many lives.
Rooting out third-degree racism is what will ultimately change the narrative about race. When white people see more black people on the same path as they are, when white people are working in diverse organizations, and when they are proximate to black leaders beyond athletes and entertainers, only then will they stop fearing and feeling superior to the black people they don’t know." {Source}
All these so called changes being made in corporate thinking is fine, and it all sounds and looks good from a public relations standpoint. But unless there is a real effort to tackle the type of institutionalized racism that has been implemented over decades, this too shall pass. And years from now, long after Donald trump, we will be right back to square one wondering how we ever got back to this point.
167 comments:
When these executives are challenged on hiring practices, their first excuse is always “The pipeline of qualified candidates is too small, so we can only do so much right now.”
47% of adults in Detroit are functionally illiterate, and the White fraction of that 47% is probably close to nil. That's why your pipeline is so small.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/detroit-illiteracy-nearly-half-education_n_858307
Detroit has an illiteracy rate comparable to some African countries.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-least-literate-states-of-africa.html
"Organizations cannot be meritocracies if their small number of black employees spend a third of their mental bandwidth in every meeting of every day distracted by questions of race and outcomes. Why are there not more people like me? Am I being treated differently? Do my white colleagues view me as less capable? Am I actually less capable?"
It's not always about you. Maybe if you'd stop obsessing over your black-blackety-blackness you would accomplish more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kga2soqvMF0
"I have not seen 10 diversity plans that have the foundational elements that organizations require everywhere else: a fact-based diagnosis of the underlying problems"
The underlying problem is an average IQ of 85, high time preference and propensity to violence, but it is forbidden to acknowledge this.
To Anonymous 12:36 PM
Mathematically speaking if what you say is true, 53 percent of the adults in Detroit are literate. That's a pretty big pipeline. And if 14 percent of them are black, this is a source of potential employees. Recruiting qualified Blacks to fill positions requires some effort on the part of the companies doing the hiring. That's where it all starts. Until employers are willing to do this, not much will change.
Anonymous said....
It's not always about you. Maybe if you'd stop obsessing over your black-blackety-blackness you would accomplish more.
12:42
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I recommend you read "Black Like Me" by John Howard Griffin.
"For four weeks Griffin, his skin chemically darkened, posed as an itinerant black. He wandered the South, hitchhiking, seeking work, and talking and listening to people black and white. His journal of those weeks became a series of magazine articles and then a book, Black Like Me. In passionate first person prose it brought home to millions of American whites the misery and injustice daily endured by American blacks. It opened eyes and seized hearts and changed minds." https://www.americanheritage.com/man-who-changed-his-skin
If you walked for one day in a black man's shoes, you would change your attitude.
Right On Field....
This is why you're one of the best!!!!!!
You get it. Unfortunately, not enough Blacks get it. You'd be surprised (or maybe you wouldn't be)
at how many Black folks believed that just because Obama was elected as President that all of a sudden
racism in America went away.
Well, surprise, surprise.
They throw a few "meaningless crumbs" at Black folks just to "quiet them down" and make them forget.
But in the case that's going on right now they are just trying to "quiet down the millions of Whites that are marching with Black folks. Because they know that White folks vote and White folks also know how to "put them out of business!"
For example: Native Americans have told them for years that the Red Skins is a racist term and that the name of the team should be changed. But they didn't give a damn. Because, "as usual" the slave master gets to decide what is racist and what is not...rather than respect and listen the people that they are offending. Go figure: Your ancestors slaughter and wipe out an entire nation of Native Americans and then name a team and then they have the audacity to design a logo with a picture of an Indian Chief and a racist name for the team.
For example: Blacks have been calling out police brutality ever since policing in American came into existence. It fell on "deaf ears" until Whites marched and protested it. Now, all of a sudden the "powers that be" are scrambling to "do something about it." Really, oh really.
But because Black folks continue to be the most accepting, forgiving, and trusting race of people...they will continue to be duped and taken advantage of.
So, Therefore, all of this "window dressing" is just more of the same. There will NEVER be any real change because throughout the 400+ history of America, the overwhelming majority of European Americans have never wanted to and still refuse to share the wealth of the nation with anyone that doesn't "look like them."
...notice I said "that looks like them" because both your mammy and your pappy could be Black but as long as you "look white" they're comfortable with that.
But that's another topic in itself.
With regard to some of the comments...
Let's keep it real,
A white person with no degree and a criminal past is 10 times more likely to be hired
than a black person with a PHD.
I've seen it first hand.
Anonymous at 2:30 PM said...
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What you say is true. I've seen something like that happen to my Black husband. Discrimination in employment is a common practice. One strategy to avoid hiring Blacks is to tell them the position has already been filled and refuse to give them an application to fill out.
Stoopid fucking privileged wasicu wasteys have zero clews as to what a black person is subjected to everyday and then they pop up on here and make jackasses of themselves with stoopid fucking posts about how all blacks are terrible animals because they are black.
A good bull whipping followed by slow strangulation lynching while being shot at and burnt at the same time might be a cure all for stoopid wasicuness clewlessness.
The results everyone knew wingnuts would finally come around to to violate black people's first amendment rights.....
https://crooksandliars.com/2020/07/kill-em-gop-power-broker-houston-leaves
That is right. SHOOT TO KILL!
I have to agree with Bishop Barber on this one: the chance for lasting change here depends largely on our ability to convert passion into policy.
Attention spans are short here in America, especially in the media.
From watching the media you would think that the protests are all over and there weren't tens of thousands of folks still in the streets.
But they really are still out there. How much longer they will stay there remains to be seen, but they want change here and now, and the only way they'll get it is to turn their momentum into statute.
The bit about third degree racism reminded me a little of something Jon Stewart said the other day about how he confronted the ingrained rich white maleness of the management of the entertainment industry.
He said that it took them a while to figure it out, but the "pipeline" to higher responsibility positions in TV is usually filled by the interns they hired, and since they were unpaid positions, they were filtering staff by applicants who could afford to spend three months with no income in New York City, and those folks will indeed tend to be rich, white, and male.
So they started paying their interns, and all of the sudden their entire staff had diversity of backgrounds, which he said raised the overall quality of their output, and you have to admit, alums of the Daily Show have taken a major chunk of broadcast entertainment, so perhaps he was onto something.
He did mention that attempts at diversity for diversity's sake tended to put those hires into positions of pressure to "represent" for whatever group they were hired from, and that did present obstacles to their performance that the rest of the staff didn't face, so it wasn't the real solution, which was to just get a real diversity of backgrounds in hiring to be the norm so as to present everyone with roughly equal opportunity to perform at their ability levels.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Well I can either say better late than never or about damned time. Ok, both. Maybe electing President Camacho wasn't the worse thing afterall. Now if we can keep this social progress going and reverse the damage trump has done we'd be onto something.
"It's not always about you. Maybe if you'd stop obsessing over your black-blackety-blackness you would accomplish more."
😂😂😂 Says the troll obsessed with what Black folk think and do. If YOU would stop spending all your time bothering Black folk and lecturing us about what we need to do you would accomplish a lot more. I'm pretty sure Field is better educated and more successful that you'll ever be. Now go take your stalking fragile ass back to stormfront or wherever it is your type congregates.😆
Thank you, Field.
Aurora, Colo riot police gang attack violent disgusting thugs celebrating the life of a police victim. Watch in horror as the attackees get their comeuppance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4VRVuLSyJU
RIP Elijah McClain.
Mexico has closed its border with Arizona because of the out of control covid epidemic there.
So perhaps Fergus' lack of a covid response is just his way to get Mexico to pay for his stupid fence?
Still won't work, Ferg, you're a lying sack of shit and now the whole world knows it.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Fantastic post as usual. It comes down to money and where we spend our money. I hope companies and organizations make their stance clear so we can choose. I would imagine many will go out of business and that’s a good thing.
A surprisingly nuanced (for teevee), long-view discussion of the country's Original Sin, are where we are historically - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6vXR5iqReE
To all my friends,
Please check out this this video!
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/watch-huge-group-of-armed-black-protesters-march-on-confederate-monument-in-georgia/
mike from iowa 8:50 pm:
Their use of police force was excessive, except for the purpose of defending excessive use of police force.
Chicago July 1st-4th
Shot & Killed: 18
Shot & Wounded: 84
Total Shot: 102
Total Homicides: 19
Gambler, this link goes straight to a one minute march video....
https://twitter.com/i/status/1279561530548162560
NFAC
Gambler, this link goes straight to a one minute march video....
https://twitter.com/i/status/1279561530548162560
NFAC
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Wow! Thanks, Mike. Now watch the Republicans do an about face on gun-control laws! Their motto has always been, "Guns for everyone except Blacks."
73 shot, 13 fatally, over Fourth of July weekend in Chicago so far
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/7/5/21313171/fourth-july-weekend-chicago-gun-violence-homicide-shooting
"Wow! Thanks, Mike. Now watch the Republicans do an about face on gun-control laws! Their motto has always been, 'Guns for everyone except Blacks.'"
Why would they do an about-face? "Guns for everyone except blacks" is still absolutely their motto.
Well, not their official motto, which is something more like: "The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" or some such garbage. But they don't really believe it. Many of them actually think most black guys are by definition bad guys, and we shouldn't actually wait for a good guy to stop them; they should just be forbidden to purchase weapons.
So if armed parades of black guys toting AR-15s, redneck-style, become commonplace, they won't enact general gun control measures like liberals keep hoping. They'll concoct some crafty backdoor way to selectively invalidate black people's ability to buy guns.
Maybe they'll just trump up more reasons to arrest and convict black people of bogus felonies so that they're not eligible to own firearms. Listening to R&B and drinking Hennessy will probably become felonies, LOL.
Never underestimate the ability for racist Republicans to invent new sleazy tactics. It's the one thing they're good at.
Descendants of Frederick Douglass deliver his fourth of July speech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBe5qbnkqoM
-Doug in Sugar Pine
13 people shot, 4 of them dead: New Orleans' July 4th weekend marred by black violence
https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/article_d0c08f08-bee5-11ea-9acb-ff789f410374.html
6-year-old black boy among 5 black fatalities in 5 shootings in Philly in 1 afternoon; 11-, 15-year-old among injured
https://www.inquirer.com/news/6-year-old-boy-fatally-shot-philadelphia-20200705.html
Nine blacks shot, one fatally, in Baltimore over holiday weekend
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-ci-cr-six-shot-baltimore-homicide-july-third-20200704-3dbwl3avxbanfgvkppeldjra7q-story.html
Anon @ 11:27 PM.... racist wingnut pols will change the law and say every time a black person is stopped, that stop rises to a felony crime and, even before trial, said blacks are denied the right to own or use guns. Then wingnuts will deny they are racists and have no racist intentions when it comes to disarming blacks.
Could this be the reason Breonna Taylor was murdered?
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2020/07/05/lawyers-breonna-taylor-case-connected-gentrification-plan/5381352002/
What does this say about the value of black lives if true?
"The bit about third degree racism reminded me a little of something Jon Stewart said the other day about how he confronted the ingrained rich white maleness of the management of the entertainment industry."
The management of the entertainment industry is ingrained Jewishness. And Jon Stewart's real last name is Leibowitz.
“Could this be the reason Breonna Taylor was murdered?”
The government wanted to clear all the criminals out of a blighted neighborhood as part of an economic plan to turn that neighborhood around? And busted a drug dealer from that neighborhood in the process?
File that under “so what?” Even if true, most citizens of Louisville would find that perfectly acceptable and legitimate. I don’t see a problem there, since the guy apparently was an actual drug dealer. Until drugs are totally legalized, the government is free to go after dealers at will.
The only relevant legal question is whether the cops had probable cause for raiding Breonna Taylor’s house in connection to the drug dealer. It sounds like the basis for carrying out the raid was pretty flimsy if the sum total of the evidence provided to obtain the warrant was that cops had seen the drug dealer exit her home with a package the cops merely believed had contained drugs or other contraband.
"This is one of several reasons the hospitalization and death rates for minorities are disproportionately higher than those for whites."
Yeah, maybe not everything is the white man's fault:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1279803672034185216
Racism is learned:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1279905108289941505
Speaking of that devil charlie Daniels, the devil won...
https://amp.tennessean.com/amp/5384087002
Daniels died at age 83. No moar right wing political views for you, son. Yer daid!
‘How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?’
The government’s disease-fighting agency is conflating viral and antibody tests, compromising a few crucial metrics that governors depend on to reopen their economies. Pennsylvania, Georgia, Texas, and other states are doing the same.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/05/cdc-and-states-are-misreporting-covid-19-test-data-pennsylvania-georgia-texas/611935/
What does this say about the value of black lives if true?
10:01 AM
Black lives apparently are not worth much in the black community,just look at the daily GENOCIDE that occurs......
Racism is learned:
Your link has nothing to do with learned racism. Try again.
‘How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?’
Pretty easy when you remember what is allegedly leading this country, the man that claims to be smarter than doctors, lawyers, generals and everyone else.
That's right, losers. It is all drumpfuck the dumbfuck's fault.
Black lives apparently are not worth much in the black community,just look at the daily GENOCIDE that occurs.....
totally irrelevant to why pigs decide to waste Black lives for business reasons.
20 Dead!
79 shot, 2 stabbed, 1 tossed out a window, 20 dead, over Fourth of July weekend in Chicago
Almost all the victims are black and hardly anyone cares. Among the victims are a 7-year-old girl fatally shot at a Fourth of July party and a 14-year-boy who was one of four people killed in a shooting that hurt four others.
By Sun-Times Wire Updated Jul 6, 2020, 5:43am CDT
totally irrelevant to why pigs decide to waste Black lives for business reasons.
1:34 PM
So its ok for negroes to slaughter each other like ethnic cleansing but when 99%+ of them lawfully shot by the police for criminal activity its wrong??
Stop committing violent crime and you wont get shot.
Stop committing violent crime and you wont get shot.
Total lie and not even close to being true. What crime did Breonna Taylor commit. How about George Floyd? Tamir Rice?
Randy Rainbow strikes again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lJondUzeKk
-Doug in Sugar Pine
"What crime did Breonna Taylor commit. How about George Floyd? Tamir Rice?"
Being black. That's all these fucks need to want them killed.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Well, the statue-toppling mania is getting ever stupider.
It's one thing to demand that governments, by public consensus, take down statues of Confederate generals and other people whose only "accomplishment" was unsuccessfully attempting to defend the institution of slavery. But it's another thing to let angry mobs get away with pulling down whatever monuments they damn well feel like.
We've since moved on to lefty dimwits attacking the statues of white slavery abolitionists, and Ulysses S Grant, allegedly in the name of fighting racism.
And, inevitably, now we've reached the next stage, where Nazis have decided to join in the fun by taking out statues of anybody black. A statue of Frederick Douglass was knocked off its base in Rochester, NY. Expect statues of MLK to get dynamited soon.
Who could possibly have foreseen this? Other than everybody?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/02/black-property-tax/
Blacks pay significantly higher property taxes than wasicu wastwys.
Sure wish them blacks quit committing violent crimes so their taxes go down.
Black Lives Matter Is a Marxist Movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=rpLItQnrgec&feature=emb_logo
Coronavirus Cases:
3,028,885
Deaths:
132,850
Surpassed three million cases out of 15 original hoax cases that magically didn't disappear. Suppose the pathological liar lied to us some moar?
Anonymous said...
20 Dead!
79 shot, 2 stabbed, 1 tossed out a window, 20 dead, over Fourth of July weekend in Chicago
Almost all the victims are black and hardly anyone cares
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So what are you doing about it besides posting numbers here?
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/07/conservative-groups-sue-to-make-pandemic-voting-even-harder.html
Right wing nut jobs are filing suits to make pandemic voting harder than ever by claiming voting fraud that doesn't exist if people are allowed to vote by mail.
It is a crazy idea that should be laughed out of court, but we won't be dealing with intellectual, well read judges in drumpf's courts.
"now we've reached the next stage, where Nazis have decided to join in the fun "
Nope, BLM/Antifa did that one too.
Anonymous said...
Black Lives Matter Is a Marxist Movement
7:20 PM
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Anyone who thinks there is a serious communist movement in the country is bonkers.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/07/grover-norquist-ppp-coronavirus.html
Anti gubmint Gwover's outfit took 150-350k from federal money to keep workers working and Ayn Rand Institute got between 350k and a million bucks from PPP. Such libertarian kidders.
Blacks pay significantly higher property taxes than wasicu wastwys.
Sure wish them blacks quit committing violent crimes so their taxes go down.
5:26 PM
You mean the taxpayers pay for THEM, ghetto negroes don't pay for anything.
Anonymous said...
"now we've reached the next stage, where Nazis have decided to join in the fun "
Nope, BLM/Antifa did that one too.
7:39 PM
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If you have any proof of this claim, please post it.
So it would appear that Mitch McConnell believes he's going to lose the majority in the senate. He may be an evil asshole. but nobody ever accused him of not being able to count votes.
He's a point down in the polls himself, but it's fucking Kentucky and he cheats, so polling within the margin of error is nothing to get excited about.
But the despicable bastard is up there warning Democrats not to mess with the filibuster.
Mitch the fuck McConnell doesn't want the Democrats to mess with his best weapon to rule from the minority.
Mitch the fuck McConnell is the one who turned the filibuster into a senate rule that nothing can pass without a 60 vote supermajority.
Mitch the fuck McConnell can fuck right off.
I'm really not a vindictive person, but I do admit that I will enjoy the look on that despicable fuck's face when he loses his majority and has to start dealing with the Democrats in a majority-rules environment in which he is in the minority.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
I know this shit just goes right under their heads, but:
Ayn Rand Institute Took Government Bailout
July 6, 2020 at 5:09 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 139 Comments
The Ayn Rand Institute received a Paycheck Protection Program loan of between $350K and $1 million, the Wall Street Journal reports.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
These fucks are literally too stupid to live:
Conversation
Eric Feigl-Ding
@DrEricDing
My god - Florida teen dies after her mother took her to an event to intentionally expose her immunocompromised daughter, who had survived cancer at 2, to the coronavirus. More than 100 mask-free children attended church-sponsored event. She died June 22.
Florida teen dies after conspiracy theorist mom takes her to church ‘COVID party’ and tries to...
A Florida mother took her high-risk teenage daughter to a “COVID party” at their church, tried treating the girl at home with unproven drugs when she got sick — and then hailed her as a patriot after...
-Doug in Sugar Pine
"You mean the taxpayers pay for THEM, ghetto negroes don't pay for anything."
Yeah, under a government program that will give a black person a home to own, for free.
Because that definitely exists.
You racists sure have some bizarre fantasies about how the world works.
Granny Bubble Woman said...
Anyone who thinks there is a serious communist movement in the country is bonkers.
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Is BLM a serious movement? Because their founder thinks they're communists:
https://youtu.be/HgEUbSzOTZ8
Some black folks had a bad day after they had the misfortune of stumbling into a hillbilly hoedown in Indiana.
I guess this is what Trump fans do for fun when there’s not one of Trump’s rallies for them to attend.
Haha.
Donald Trump was “mistakenly” cropped out of a photo of him and mega-perv Jeffrey Epstein that aired on Fox “News.”
Granny Bubble Woman said...
Anyone who thinks there is a serious communist movement in the country is bonkers.
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Anonymous Ass .....said
Is BLM a serious movement? Because their founder thinks they're communists:
https://youtu.be/HgEUbSzOTZ8
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BLM is not monolithic. A large number of Americans support the concept that Black Lives do indeed matter and we are not communists. LOL!!. If some person has named herself the leader of BLM, that's nothing to get excited about. No way is America ever going communist. You and like thinking people are off the charts with this myth.
Why don't you do us all a favor and read a few political science, economic, and history books before you post dumb shit? Here's a hint - think how many Americans have money invested in their 401K's)
Field. tldr. sorry. The message would be better communicated without all the burning, looting and murder. Some horrible stuff out there, let's pretend we are civilized.
It's not too late for you either Doug. You too can strive to be like a normal human being. Best wishes.
"Anyone who thinks there is a serious communist movement in the country is bonkers."
Fox news is pressing the BLM being communist angle real hard. Get ready to see that a lot more.
19 shot, 3 fatally, Monday in Chiraq
Within 30 minutes, nine people were shot two separate shootings in Gresham.
By Sun-Times Wire Jul 7, 2020, 3:42am CDT
South Dakota's vapid bimbo guv Noem Nothing tested positive for covid and yet hosted the first criminals at Mount Russia moar and then flew back to DC on AF1 with no mask and spent three hours in flight to prove how fucking stoopid wingnuts truly are.
She was being pushed to replace Pence as vice-criminal and she has proven her chops as a federal money grifter, in spades. And check out her fabricated lie about having to sell the family ranch to pay inheritance taxes when her dad passed. Total bullshit.
Another brutal anti-white attack:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1280377124608712704
If the white woman had called the cops before the beating, it would be national news and she would be pilloried as a Karen.
But she was beaten instead and only a local news station cares
Gambler2 at 11:01 pm:
I say that there _is_ a powerful communist movement in this country, one that has been in control of our political system for decades. It enforces communism for the rich, and anarchocapitalism for the poor.
Like communism everywhere, communism-for-the-rich relies on terror and double-think; it destroys the economy; it cannot tolerate dissent; it is highly class-conscious, in this case in favor of the rich; and it degrades the morals of its beneficiaries, in this case the rich.
And, like communism everywhere, communism-for-the-rich foments revolution. Against itself.
(By the way, I prefer to refer to "anarchocapitalism" as "arachnocapitalism". Come into my parlor!)
@Paradoctor:
I prefer the term anarcho-tyranny:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=anarcho-tyranny
https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/blog/anarcho-tyranny-2020/
Not bad. How about we combine the two? "Arachno-tyranny"?
https://denniscooperblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/tumblr_o53vovshzn1r73lylo2_400.gif
Can anyone provide an example of one majority-black country with a higher life expectancy for blacks than the USA?
The upcoming massive wave of evictions that will occur after the extended UI and eviction protections run out is really gonna help Fergus and the Republicans in the senate get reelected, don't you think?
-Doug in Sugar Pine
If the white woman had called the cops before the beating, it would be national news and she would be pilloried as a Karen.
Video was from 2014. Care to try again, loser?
Black Toddler beaten to death on Chicago's South Side; 1 negro in custody:
https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/toddler-beaten-to-death-on-chicagos-south-side-1-in-custody
White "Man accused of shooting Denver woman while she was walking dog faces 22 charges"
https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/michael-close-denver-shooting-charges/73-1374de32-ae9f-47a0-8dfc-898abeb949b3
2 arrested in gang-related shooting at Greeley gas station
https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/2-arrested-in-gang-related-shooting-in-greeley/73-012602f6-e38c-4280-abe8-ef3c4b2a2ea3?ref=exit-recirc
Deadly force justified in fatal police shooting on I-225, DA says
Nico Descheenie, 25, was shot and killed after Denver officers spotted him in a stolen car and then followed his vehicle.
https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/2-arrested-in-gang-related-shooting-in-greeley/73-012602f6-e38c-4280-abe8-ef3c4b2a2ea3?ref=exit-recirc
These stories all came from Colorado. You see crimes really are committed in places other than Chicago. Why is it you never post any of them?
White privilege, once again, proves it is persistent and real.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/06/racial-disparities-families-struggle-food-348810
"Protesters" Get Shot and Blown Up Peacefully Stealing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=802QD2RVJmc
"White privilege, once again, proves it is persistent and real."
Doesn't exist, made up and should be ignored by intelligent people.
Doesn't exist, made up and should be ignored by intelligent people.
Dare you to find a single magat hatted intelligent person. Put it down as a thing that isn't possible.
Just to make it interesting, I'll tie my hands behind my back and lower the intelligent IQ down to 6 and you'll still lews.
"Doesn't exist, made up and should be ignored by intelligent people."
Um, ok kid.
"Black Toddler beaten to death on Chicago's South Side; 1 negro in custody"
Any white kids beaten to death by a white person or do you just sit around lurking for Black people to do things? That's a weird hobby.😬
https://www.theroot.com/trump-s-niece-confirms-it-the-president-is-a-neglected-1844296519
So wait, uber white male Tucker Carlson who was born into privilege says a woman who served in the Army and lost her legs in combat doesn't love America? I guess privileged white men like Tucker and the donald are what we want this country to represent? Uh, ok. Carry on GOP.
https://www.theroot.com/tucker-carlson-claims-combat-veteran-tammy-duckworth-do-1844293022
Gettysburg, South Duhkota has/d the only police department featuring the confederate battle flag on their uniforms until today, in America.
The town was settled by mostly Union soldiers after the Civil War of Southern Agression, remember they took the first swing.
"Doesn't exist, made up and should be ignored by intelligent people."
The very fact that you believe it can be ignored is an example of white privilege.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Whites are the only non-privileged people in America.
You are confusing competence with privilege.
Rosalynn and Jimmy Carter have now been married for 74 years.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
The very fact that you believe it can be ignored is an example of white privilege.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
12:06 AM
Pure Pravda, you Marxists embarrass yourselves....
Chicago July 1st-7th
Shot & Killed: 25
Shot & Wounded: 111
Total Shot: 136
Total Homicides: 29
Black folks sure like to shoot and kill each other.......
You are confusing competence with privilege.
drumpf and stoopid fucking wingnuts are yer idea of competence? Put yer klan dunce hat on and go find a corner in a round house to stand in.
"Black folks sure like to shoot and kill each other......."
White people sure like to shoot themselves and OD on opioids.
How does 13% of the population commit over 75% of the nations violent crime???
Philly shootings surge as 23 black people were shot in a single day
by Chris Palmer, Dylan Purcell, John Duchneskie and Julie Shaw, Updated: July 6, 2020
https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia-shooting-gun-violence-increase-spike-4th-july-coronavirus-protests-20200706.html
Seven negroes dead and almost two dozen blacks injured in 17 Philadelphia shootings over July 4 weekend
by Emma Colton, Social Media Manager | July 06, 2020 11:37 AM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/seven-dead-and-almost-two-dozen-injured-in-17-philadelphia-shootings-over-july-4-weekend
Heartbroken Detroit black family wants answers after 21-year-old fatally shot
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/07/08/heartbroken-detroit-family-wants-answers-after-21-year-old-fatally-shot/
Video shows moments after black FCA Sterling Heights Assembly Plant worker stabs another negroe in parking lot: Tribal warfare
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/07/07/video-shows-moments-after-fca-sterling-heights-assembly-plant-worker-stabs-another-in-parking-lot/
Ypsilanti negro man accused of stabbing in downtown Ann Arbor faces charges
https://www.clickondetroit.com/all-about-ann-arbor/2020/07/07/ypsilanti-man-accused-of-stabbing-in-downtown-ann-arbor-faces-charges/
Black Detroit City Council staffer killed in apparent murder-suicide
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/07/07/detroit-city-council-staffer-killed-in-apparent-murder-suicide/
Yeah yeah I know, we're erasing history.
But just the crappy parts.😆
https://www.theroot.com/virginia-schools-are-changing-their-confederate-names-b-1844297556
Pelosi according to Polti-Fact.
Federal aid for state and local governments through a proposed coronavirus relief bill would amount to “half of what the Republicans put onto the national debt.”
true mostly-true
Try to find specifics on white scumacyst crimes in America..
https://www.lawfareblog.com/search-data-white-supremacist-violent-crime
Good luck. White privilege protects even scumacysts from screw tinny.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/joe-shapiro-the-man-who-took-trumps-sats-for-him/
Can't hardly wait for drumpf to accuse this guy of being a low life nobody that accomplished nothing.
POC stepping up to do the jobs racists won't do:
An Oregon politician, Jonathan Lopez, claimed he received a racist letter. He was the latest victim of racism in Trump’s America. Only, he sent the letter to himself according to police. He confessed.
https://komonews.com/news/local/oregon-politician-wrote-racist-letter-to-himself-police-say
America faces a crisis shortage of real white racism.
PilotX said...
"Yeah yeah I know, we're erasing history."
It’s funny how the people who unironically use the term ‘white fragility’ are almost always the most fragile fucking babies on the planet
CHOP Seattle ENDED After Protesters Visit Mayor's House!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cKOTxXn0qo
https://anthonyblogan.com/chaz-chop-seattle-ended-after-protesters-visit-mayors-house/
Anti-white hate is the new state religion. Protecting black criminals is the stated goal of the state.
About those crime statistics:
The Irish weren't considered white at first, they had to _become_ white. Their method was the long march through the institutions. First they were laborers and cops, then athletes and mayors, then singers and Senators, then judges, CEOs, and the President.
My question is: what were the Irish-American crime statistics, then and now? They had a bad rep back then, one not much mentioned now. My guess is that nothing calms a people down quicker than getting a piece of the action.
Earlier I asked the honest folk on this thread (i.e. the non-trolls) what percent of the anonymoid trolls are Russian agents, and what percent are Confederazis with acne. Gambler2 and PilotX had some interesting speculations; here are two of mine:
The Russian agents are the ones quick to accuse others of Marxism and communism. The acne'd 8channers are the ones quick to complain that whites are oppressed.
"My guess is that nothing calms a people down quicker than getting a piece of the action."
Black criminality is a constant regardless if they live as an oppressed minority, as a privileged minority, or as the dominant majority.
Gambler2:
That one was an 8channer, for whom I recommend Clearsil.
The troll quoted my post without addressing the question I ask, about Irish criminality. I have little doubt that Irish-Americans nowadays do far less crime-in-the-streets. (Though perhaps more crime-in-the-suites, for that is one of America's rewards for ethnic success.)
The troll's unproven criminal-essentialism was used against the Irish too; that's part of why the British looked the other way during the Potato Famine, and also during the Troubles. It's only after the IRA bombed the City of London that the Queen took ending the Troubles seriously.
Oops, that should be "Clearasil".
Also: "City of London" isn't quite London: it's the financial center within London. As ever, money rules the world.
drumpf's steadily climbing hoax body count...
Deaths:
134,309
drumpfuck sets a new record for difference between political party approval rates.
wingnuts, for various and sundry inexplicable reasons decided to give drumpf a 91% approval rating, 6% hgher than the last poll.
Intelligent, none inbred Dems dropped approval rating 3% down to 2% approval. The 89% gap is the largest ever since polls were first recorded around 1940's.
Ireland is in Europe.
Irish have always been White.
Not to the Americans. The Irish had to work and fight to get the slightest respect. The Jews also had to 'become white', as did the Italians and the Poles.
DNA sequencing proves that skin tint is skin deep; so "white" is a 'race' only by convention, not by genetics. Racism is based upon illusion; that's part of what makes it evil.
"Whiteness" is a club, one that you've got to buy into, and one that they hit you over the head with if you don't.
"The Irish had to work and fight to get the slightest respect. The Jews also had to 'become white', as did the Italians and the Poles."
Maybe instead of whining for handouts blacks ought to try working. And stop committing so many crimes.
Gambler2:
I guess Russian agent for "Shaquille O'Neal", for two reasons:
1. Offered an actual argument, rather than a drive-by insult.
2. But that argument was Eurocentric, rather than Americentric.
Busted! But what say you?
Paradoctor:
I don't know. That's a hard one. Maybe we need a third category? Bigot who isn't a total wingnut? Bigot for sure but he/she did post a screen name.
As for his handout remark, I haven't heard any Blacks whining about it. I have heard and seen a lot of white men whining about facing discrimination. LOL!!!
Maybe instead of whining for handouts blacks ought to try working. And stop committing so many crimes.
2:49 PM
Maybe instead of trolling blacks you could get a job, or is living in Mommy's basement just the ticket for you and yours.
The supremes sided with the forced-birth perverts to take away contraceptive coverage from 120K women.
That'll sure help things right about now.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Paradoctor said...
"DNA sequencing proves that skin tint is skin deep; so "white" is a 'race' only by convention, not by genetics"
Wrong.
Racial differences go far beyond skin color.
Forensic scientists can tell a person's race by examining their bones or teeth.
DNA analysis can tell exactly where your ancestors came from.
Different races are prone to different diseases (e.g. sickle cell anemia). Organ transplants between people of different races have considerably higher rejection rates.
Different races exhibit talents and predispositions. Dark skin is not why West Africans run faster than anyone else. Light skin is not why Europeans and East Asians are better at science and math.
Human populations inhabiting very different environments that have been separated for 70,000 years develop considerable differences. All dogs are descended from wolves and have been domesticated for maybe 30,000 years. Dogs have less genetic variability than humans. No one would argue that "breed" is only a 'convention' or social construct rather than a way to recognize genetic differences. A Great Dane is not a Chihuahua. A Golden Retriever has a different disposition than a Pit Bull. But they are all dogs.
Likewise, we are all equally human. But we have different traits. Denying reality doesn't change it, rather it leads to tragedy.
"The supremes sided with the forced-birth perverts to take away contraceptive coverage from 120K women."
Alternate take: The supremes sided with people who don't want to be forced to pay for one specific kind of contraceptive that violates their religious beliefs.
Paradoctor said....
"DNA sequencing proves that skin tint is skin deep; so "white" is a 'race' only by convention, not by genetics. Racism is based upon illusion; that's part of what makes it evil.
"Whiteness" is a club, one that you've got to buy into, and one that they hit you over the head with if you don't."
2:42 PM
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True, the idea of "race" has no basis other than skin color. Race is a sociological concept that evolved from human's need to classify everything they see and hear. Classifying is a necessary trait that promotes survival. But opportunists have used it in a negative way for political, material and social gain. I hope we can get past it someday.
File this under the occupational hazards of buying your own bullshit:
Fergus keeps lying his stupid, orange head off about the evils of voting by mail.
Most sane people don't really care what his latest lie is, but you know who does?
Republicans, and more specifically, Republican Pig People, who are now so squicked out about mail in voting that they are ignoring Republican party leaders who are imploring them to sign up for it, and in some cases getting together and burning their applications for absentee ballots.
Right wing media set to blame it all on Democrats in 3...2...1...
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Sane person said....
Alternate take: The supremes sided with people who don't want to be forced to pay for one specific kind of contraceptive that violates their religious beliefs.
3:39 PM
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Well maybe some people don't want to be forced to pay for wars that violate their religious beliefs. I'm one of them. Shall I sue to opt out of paying for the "defense"budget?
Dinthebeast sai...
Fergus keeps lying his stupid, orange head off about the evils of voting by mail.
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Trump voted by mail in the Florida primary this year, as did quite a few Republicans in congress. The message is "do as I say, not do as I do." What an ass he is.
Gomez:
Please drop the bull shit. We have heard it all before and we don't believe any of it. There is but one race - the human race. Have a nice day.
Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...
"True, the idea of "race" has no basis other than skin color."
Such astounding ignorance can only be achieved by extreme effort. Bravo White Woman, you really work hard at being wrong.
Fergus says the CDC is wrong and it's guidelines for reopening schools are too costly and strict.
He thinks schools should just open back up as if nothing was wrong.
Let's see, how did that approach pan out when he applied it to churches?
Oh yeah, many churches that began holding undistanced indoor services became the epicenters of massive outbreaks, all because Fergus was freaking out that he was losing religious support.
How many more thousands of people have to sicken and die because Fergus isn't right upstairs?
Well, he is trying to withdraw from the WHO, and he is SO MAD that he can't just bark an order and make it happen right now.
Fucking laws, who needs them?
All of you brain-wizards who said "Let's get a non-politician for a president" should have known that incompetence is as incompetence does, and should be required to get your next root canal done by a non-dentist.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Motocross, hare scrambles, and flat track are all examples of different races, and I have done them all.
What do words mean, anyway?
-Doug in Sugar Pine
DNA analysis can tell exactly where your ancestors came from.
Not true or we would know by now what and where your Mothership is, dipwad.
Gomez is a true Magat and all that takes is an IQ smaller than his micro-mini dick.
From today's Daily Beast....
https://www.thedailybeast.com/racist-backwoods-attack-and-protest-hit-and-run-rock-bloomington-indiana-in-americas-heartland?ref=home
Racist Backwoods Attack and Protest Hit-Run Rock City in America’s Heartland
Violent fuckwads blocking traffic and threatening drivers deserve to be flattened.
"many churches that began holding undistanced indoor services became the epicenters of massive outbreaks"
Bullshit. Spike in cases is due to the Floyd riots and a surge of people coming from Mexico into border states.
George Floyd's family attorney, Benjamin Crump, previously fabricated a witness (Witness #8) out of thin air named Rachel Jeantel [Trayvon Martin case].
A complete fabrication. Jeantel was not a witness. ABC Matt Guttman knew and sat silent. Truth Has No Agenda
The key witness against Zimmerman at his trial, Rachel Jeantel, was a fake witness pretending to be Diamond Eugene, the 16-year-old girl who was on the phone with Trayvon in the last minutes before his death.
Diamond Eugene, who only reluctantly and belatedly came forward under what Crump in a TV interview admitted was pressure from the Trayvon camp, had now balked, whether because she did not want to commit perjury under oath or because she did not want her boyfriend to know she had also been romancing Trayvon — or both. The “solution” was to substitute Rachel Jeantel, whom Gilbert believes (on the basis of DNA evidence) is Diamond Eugene’s half-sister, although she is poles apart in appearance and intelligence and proved a terrible witness on the stand.
The media, for all its obsession with the story, showed no interest in exploring even surface aspects that should have aroused suspicion. Crump had repeatedly emphasized that Diamond Eugene was a minor, only 16 years old. Rachel Jeantel was 18. Nor did anyone puzzle over the oddity that someone named Rachel Jeantel should be nicknamed “Diamond Eugene.” The media are equally lazy and irresponsible this time around. Their reaction to having their narrative upended has been to bury the story, and when that has proved no longer possible, to heap scorn on it — they’ve done everything but look into it."
Bullshit. Spike in cases is due to the Floyd riots and a surge of people coming from Mexico into border states.
Moar fake noize bullshit wingnuts get fed all day, every day.
Anonymous said...
"many churches that began holding undistanced indoor services became the epicenters of massive outbreaks"
Bullshit. Spike in cases is due to the Floyd riots and a surge of people coming from Mexico into border states.
5:29 PM
Your both wrong, the spike in cases is due to the Globalists/Marxists telling the controlled media to say that, there is no spike its all bullshit.
United sending layoff notices to nearly half of US employees
https://fox2now.com/news/national/united-sending-layoff-notices-to-nearly-half-of-us-employees/
Good thing it's illegal to layoff blah people.
"United sending layoff notices to nearly half of US employees"
Not nearly half but a huge chunk of folks. That's just the rough estimates, I'm sure the numbers will go up or down as we get closer to October. Thanks for caring.
Trayvon martin was a minor and Zipperfuckerman basically murdered him, but Black lives don't matter to stoopid fucking wingnuts.
"Good thing it's illegal to layoff blah people"
Um, no comment.🙄
"Trayvon martin was a minor and Zipperfuckerman basically murdered him"
Emmitt Till was 14 and George Stinney was too so age doesn't matter when you're Blah.
So Roberts fell and hit his head. That makes perfect sense. Now the real question is what are Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh's excuses?
-Doug in Sugar Pine
From Jason Isbell's Twitter feed:
Brian Klaas
@brianklaas
·
9h
New cases, yesterday:
Germany: 298
Denmark: 10
Norway: 11
Sweden: 57
United States: 55,442
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· 10h
In Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and many other countries, SCHOOLS ARE OPEN WITH NO PROBLEMS. The Dems think it would be bad for them politically if U.S. schools open before the November Election, but is important for the children & families. May cut off funding if not open!
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Dear god that man is stupid and he has Fox "news" and Betsy Devos using the same talking points. 😖 So I ask again, are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?
Well Doug, can we all finally admit it's a mistake to elect Republicans?
"In Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and many other countries, SCHOOLS ARE OPEN WITH NO PROBLEMS. The Dems think it would be bad for them politically if U.S. schools open before the November Election, but is important for the children & families. May cut off funding if not open!"
Yeah, Donald Trump does not understand the part about how someone named Donald Trump fucked up and failed to reduce infection rates nationwide, which is why other countries can safely open their schools this fall and America can't.*
*Side note: Sweden's government also fucked up and are also in denial about it, much like Trump. They shouldn't be opening their schools, either, until they can get viral levels under control.
Brazil's Trumpian President Jair Bolsonaro has mocked his staffers for wearing masks, coming out and literally saying they are "for fairies."
Bolsonaro is now infected with COVID, and his country has one of the worst infection rates in the world.
It's such a weird coincidence that most of the countries with failing responses to COVID-19 happen to be ruled by far-right pieces of shit who think they can create their own reality by lying constantly.
Two different anonymouses said....
Bullshit. Spike in cases is due to the Floyd riots and a surge of people coming from Mexico into border states.
5:29 PM
Your both wrong, the spike in cases is due to the Globalists/Marxists telling the controlled media to say that, there is no spike its all bullshit.
6:44 PM
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Paradoctor, I'm at a loss. In which group do these crazy conspiracy theorists belong?
Anonymous said...
Violent fuckwads blocking traffic and threatening drivers deserve to be flattened.
5:28 PM
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So the crime of blocking traffic and threatening drivers deserves the death penalty?
Gomez said...
Gambler2 ASKA White Woman said...
"True, the idea of "race" has no basis other than skin color."
Such astounding ignorance can only be achieved by extreme effort. Bravo White Woman, you really work hard at being wrong.
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Well, I know a couple of things: Regardless of your views, the so called "races" share common blood types, can donate and receive "inter racial" organ transplants, and can produce fertile off spring when they mate with members of another "race." So I have concluded that we are all one "race: the human race. We are all God's children.
Please don't try to convince me other wise. You will just be wasting you time.
"So the crime of blocking traffic and threatening drivers deserves the death penalty?"
Yes.
TRUMP 2020!!
Anonymous said...
"So the crime of blocking traffic and threatening drivers deserves the death penalty?"
Yes.
1:11 AM
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Wow! Good thing you are not in charge of anything.
BIDEN 202011
TRUMP IN PRISON 2021!!
TRUMP 2020!!
No, I wouldn't think that Melania was any supermodel. With that mean face, she looks like the FOX television network cartoon Batman with his cowl on.
Melania was a whore, just like most of Donald's "girlfriends."
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