Wednesday, May 24, 2017

OPEN THREAD WEDNESDAY.

MORE DISCLAIMERSIt's open thread Wednesday, field hands, and I need your thoughts on some things.

For example, why is Donald trump trying to destroy America with his budget ?

Is dissing Donald now a thing? First Melania then the Pope.  I wonder who is next? Although I don't suppose that it could get any worse than the Holy Father and your own wife.

And why is Donald always praising despots and dictators?

The latest is this clown from the Philippines, who he called to congratulate for violating the civil and human rights of others.

I can see trump during the days of slavery, as he praises the slave owners for reducing black unemployment.

Thoughts?


















86 comments:

Lilacpr said...

I went to the Pope link to see cos I didn't see where he dissed him, but the link says "page no longer available"

But the Pope seemed happy towards the end of the visit though.

Lilacpr said...

As for the Duarte thing, lemme tell you, sometimes I see what's going on over here with the fuqin thugs robbing everyone for drugs, and I wish they'd 'disappear' too!

dinthebeast said...

Like I said before, president four-year-old, or his financial brain-wizards pulled their growth numbers straight out of their asses, in a fraudulent attempt to reverse-engineer their tax cut plan.

The economy doesn't have room for those kind of growth numbers any more, as the workforce isn't replacing itself fast enough to support them, and they don't want the kind of immigration numbers that could make up for it.

A typical self-cancelling Republican lie, told in support of a blatant reverse Robin Hood agenda of robbing everyone else to give to the rich.
At least they're consistent.

And did you hear about the genius who's suing the Grand Canyon because they discriminated against him by not letting him take rock samples he says will prove it was caused by Noah's flood?

-Doug in Oakland

dinthebeast said...

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2017/05/government-of-sick-fucks-by-sick-fucks.html

-Doug in Oakland

Brigade Fifteen said...

"As for the Duarte thing, lemme tell you, sometimes I see what's going on over here with the fuqin thugs robbing everyone for drugs, and I wish they'd 'disappear' too!"

Don't say that, Lilac. Vigilantism is not the answer.

Even if you feel like the local thugs have it coming, how do you guarantee only the thugs get whacked? If it's open season on "bad guys," how long before people start declaring their next door neighbors they have grudges against to be "bad guys"? Or romantic rivals? Or people of a different ethnic group or religion?

It never stops with just the criminals.

Brigade Fifteen said...

"Like I said before, president four-year-old, or his financial brain-wizards pulled their growth numbers straight out of their asses, in a fraudulent attempt to reverse-engineer their tax cut plan."

This was almost unavoidable, though, wasn't it? This is the bullcrap that he campaigned on:

I, Trump, am a magical business super-genius, and I can turbocharge the economy. I won't supply much detail on how all the manufacturing jobs will come back and economic growth will be supercharged, but it's gonna be great, believe me!

Why should we be surprised that the campaign trail voodoo has been translated into budget voodoo? It would be surprising if that didn't happen.

dinthebeast said...

Then there's the two trillion dollar mistake in the damn thing. Oopsie.

-Doug in Oakland

Lilacpr said...

Brigade Fifteen said...

"As for the Duarte thing, lemme tell you, sometimes I see what's going on over here with the fuqin thugs robbing everyone for drugs, and I wish they'd 'disappear' too!"

Don't say that, Lilac. Vigilantism is not the answer.

Even if you feel like the local thugs have it coming, how do you guarantee only the thugs get whacked? If it's open season on "bad guys," how long before people start declaring their next door neighbors they have grudges against to be "bad guys"? Or romantic rivals? Or people of a different ethnic group or religion?

It never stops with just the criminals.

9:44 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You're right but it's such a problem!

Brigade Fifteen said...

"You're right but it's such a problem!"

I know. The corruption and ineffectiveness of government in the Philippines, and the resultant crime problem, is what made people there become unhappy enough to believe a maniac like Rodrigo Duterte might be the solution to their problems.

They will eventually figure out that he is not.

Milton Greenbergman said...

dinthebeast said...
"Like I said before, president four-year-old, or his financial brain-wizards pulled their growth numbers straight out of their asses, in a fraudulent attempt to reverse-engineer their tax cut plan."

The work of all those financial brain-wizards instantly trumped by the brilliant meta-analysis of Doug in Oakland.

They almost got away with it too. Our nation owes its deepest debt of gratitude to Doug.

dinthebeast said...

Look it up, fuckhead. I'm not wrong.

-Doug in Oakland

Fake News said...

Schmucks at Politico had visit from John Podesta today - never asked him about the $35 million he got from Putin cronies,

CONTRA said...

Islam, a secretion of the Arab mind, has never been an element of civilization, instead acting as an extinguisher upon its flickering light.

Anonymous said...

Quran 8: "I will cast terror into the hearts of unbelievers. Hence strike off their heads (...) this is because they opposed Allah"

John Holmes said...

Headlines you did not expect to read:

"Black man who underwent penis transplant will have it tattooed because the donor was WHITE

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4535072/Black-man-penis-transplant-tattooed-white.html

Enoch said...

When Sadiq Khan said terror was just part of living in a modern city, he was right.

For the (((elites))) the only threat that terrorism represents is in the possible nationalist backlash.

They don't really care about it other than that, some may think the sacrifice of their own people for diversity is virtuous.

This is why they spend more time managing the possible backlash and investigating dissidents that speak up about its cause.

Our elites *can* tolerate Islamic terrorism. It poses no threat to the global system. It's just part of modern life, the growing pains of globalism.

So if you find it confusing why they persecute the people who are calling out the perpetrators while the perpetrators are coddled, this is why.

Terrorism poses no threat, nationalism does. If there is another terror attack, then they get busy suppressing nationalist sentiment.

The end goal here is a deracinated and homogenized human race of obedient consumers. If some get blown up along the way, so be it.

Matt Fudge said...

Trump approval pops to 48% today...Obama Averaged 47.9% Job Approval as President..

Cuck to Israel, the MSM gives you favorable coverage, your numbers go up. It's an old hat trick daddy taught him.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/202742/obama-averages-job-approval-president.aspx

Brigade Fifteen said...

"Anonymous John Holmes said...

Headlines you did not expect to read:

'Black man who underwent penis transplant will have it tattooed because the donor was WHITE'"


How did I know the "black dude with the white penis" story would show up here?

Of course it did.

Anonymous said...

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

-Winston Churchill

dinthebeast said...

Excuse me, make that a 5.6 trillion dollar oopsie.

-Doug in Oakland

President Criminal said...

Obama intel agency secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years:

The National Security Agency under former President Barack Obama routinely violated American privacy protections while scouring through overseas intercepts and failed to disclose the extent of the problems until the final days before Donald Trump was elected president last fall, according to once top-secret documents that chronicle some of the most serious constitutional abuses to date by the U.S. intelligence community.

http://circa.com/politics/barack-obamas-team-secretly-disclosed-years-of-illegal-nsa-searches-spying-on-americans

Anonymous said...

"But the Pope seemed happy towards the end of the visit though."

Of course, it was ending:-P

PX

Anonymous said...

Where is this 48% approval rating coming from? Gallop shows south of 40% Any links? Thnx

PX
http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx

Anonymous said...

Rasmussen

Anonymous said...

Fox says 40%

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/24/fox-news-poll-trump-approval-down-voters-support-special-counsel-on-russia.amp.html

PX

Anonymous said...

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-approval-rating-takes-a-dive-polls-show/

Yeah, every poll except Rasmussen shows 40% or below. That is an outlier. I wouldn't put too much faith in it because he is out of the country and not on twitter like he usually is. Even the Razzy will sink in the coming days.

Brigade Fifteen said...

"Where is this 48% approval rating coming from? Gallop shows south of 40% Any links? Thnx

PX"


Check the average of polls here. The plummeting black line is Trump's approval rating.

Brigade Fifteen said...

And what is more interesting is not the falling "Yay Trump!" line (down by 4 points overall since his inauguration) but the skyrocketing "Fuck Trump!" line (up by 10 points).

He's already well "underwater" with the public, and things are only getting worse.

I'm Just Saying!! said...

"Yeah, every poll except Rasmussen shows 40% or below."

Trump's ratings may be on a decline here, but they're soaring in Russia.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/01/26/donald-trump-approval-rating-russia-russians-googling-president-trump/97077370/

mike from iowa said...

Fake News said...

Schmucks at Politico had visit from John Podesta today - never asked him about the $35 million he got from Putin cronies,
11:19 PM

Podesta wasn't getting ass-raped by Russians while running for Potus.

Wingnut congressional candidate Gianforte of Montana body slammed a reporterr from the Gaurdian in front of Fox News people/witnesses-the day before Montana's election and then lied about it in a press release.

Fox news folks are on record saying the candidate grabbed the reporter by the neck, threw him down and punched him. Baldy will vote for him and he will prolly win in a landslide. Gianforte hunts prairie dogs with Grifting Drumpfdouche JR.

mike from iowa said...

Rasmussen is the Fake Noise equivalent of fake polling.

mike from iowa said...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/05/25/recovering-addicts-find-their-drug-counselors-dead-of-overdose?via=desktop&source=copyurl

Not sure how this helps recovering addicts.

UK sez they stopped sharing Manchester bombing intel with Americans because all the details are being leaked to the media. Drumpf runs a tight Swiss cheese ship of state.

World of Lies said...

"Podesta wasn't getting ass-raped by Russians while running for Potus."

No, Hillary was.

Brennan didn’t explain why he thought that the Russians didn’t want Hillary Clinton to win. Perhaps he could explain why they didn’t prefer Hillary, who was Secretary of State when President Obama let Russia violate the INF Missile Treaty and colluded with the Russians to kill missile defense in Europe, telling Then Russian president Dimitri Medvedev to tell Putin he would have more “flexibility” after his reelection.

Brennan didn’t explain why the Russians didn’t prefer Hillary, Secretary of State for an administration that did nothing when Russia annexed Crimea and invaded Ukraine. Why wouldn’t the Russians want the Secretary of State who called murderous Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad a reformer and was there when President Obama drew the first of his “red lines,” then did nothing to prevent the slaughter of 500,000 Syrians while giving Russia free rein in that country?

Why would Russia prefer Trump over Hillary after she and husband Bill brokered deals giving Russia and Putin 20 percent of our uranium supply to benefit Clinton Foundation donors, including Canadian billionaire Frank Giustra?


http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/05/did_brennan_collude_with_foreign_spies_to_help_hillary.html

World of Lies said...

There is another scenario as equally plausible as the one saying Team Trump, and perhaps President Trump himself, colluded with the Russians. It is that John Brennan himself colluded with the Russians to help Hillary win to guarantee his continued tenure as CIA director. It involves the infamous anti-Trump dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele, used by Brennan and others as a pretext for a Trump investigation bonanza. As the American Spectator reported:

An article in the Guardian last week provides more confirmation that John Brennan was the American progenitor of political espionage aimed at defeating Donald Trump. One side did collude with foreign powers to tip the election -- Hillary’s.

Seeking to retain his position as CIA director under Hillary, Brennan teamed up with British spies and Estonian spies to cripple Trump’s candidacy. He used their phony intelligence as a pretext for a multi-agency investigation into Trump, which led the FBI to probe a computer server connected to Trump Tower and gave cover to Susan Rice, among other Hillary supporters, to spy on Trump and his people…

The Guardian story is written in a style designed to flatter its sources (they are cast as high-minded whistleblowers), but the upshot of it is devastating for them, nonetheless, and explains why all the criminal leaks against Trump first originated in the British press. According to the story, Brennan got his anti-Trump tips primarily from British spies but also Estonian spies and others. The story confirms that the seed of the espionage into Trump was planted by Estonia. The BBC’s Paul Wood reported last year that the intelligence agency of an unnamed Baltic State had tipped Brennan off in April 2016 to a conversation purporting to show that the Kremlin was funneling cash into the Trump campaign.

Any other CIA director would have disregarded such a flaky tip, recognizing that Estonia was eager to see Trump lose (its officials had bought into Hillary’s propaganda that Trump was going to pull out of NATO and leave Baltic countries exposed to Putin). But Brennan opportunistically seized on it, as he later that summer seized on the half-baked intelligence of British spy agencies (also full of officials who wanted to see Trump lose).

The Guardian says that British spy head Robert Hannigan “passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan.” To ensure that these flaky tips leaked out, Brennan disseminated them on Capitol Hill. In August and September of 2016, he gave briefings to the “Gang of Eight” about them, which then turned up on the front page of the New York Times.


https://spectator.org/confirmed-john-brennan-colluded-with-foreign-spies-to-defeat-trump/

World of Lies said...

Confirmed: John Brennan Colluded With Foreign Spies to Defeat Trump

Were the media not so completely in the tank for Obama and Hillary, all of this political mischief would make for a compelling 2016 version of All the President’s Men. Instead, the public gets a steady stream of Orwellian propaganda about the sudden propriety of political espionage. The headline writers at Pravda couldn’t improve on this week’s official lie, tweeted out by the Maggie Habermans: “Susan Rice Did Nothing Wrong, Say Both Dem and Republican House Aides.”

Liberals pompously quote the saying — “the bigger the lie, the more it will be believed” — even as their media enshrine it. Historians will look back on 2016 and marvel at the audacity of its big lie: whispers of an imaginary Trump-Russia collusion that wafted up from the fever swamps of a real collusion between John Brennan and foreign powers seeking Trump’s defeat.


https://spectator.org/confirmed-john-brennan-colluded-with-foreign-spies-to-defeat-trump/

mike from iowa said...

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0lMUTD49cCM/WR4Yv97Xg3I/AAAAAAABndU/UV5Jtwr0Wvs2DQoz8-4JTUPw4pzB7cTxwCLcB/s1600/x%2Bsince%2B1978.jpg

Interesting table shows how much stuff has increased except wages for Joe Blow.


Why would Russia prefer Trump over Hillary after she and husband Bill brokered deals giving Russia and Putin 20 percent of our uranium supply to benefit Clinton Foundation donors, including Canadian billionaire Frank Giustra?

This unfunny lie has been debunked more times than you wet yer britches as a baby and it is still not true.

The rest of that non-sense lacks context. And no, HRC doesn't eat babkes or sell kids for sex, either.

mike from iowa said...

Wild, unsubstantiated conspiracy bullshit. Where's the proof? Both sources you cited are extreme wingnut rags who claim confirmation from even whackier right wing rags.

Anonymous said...

mike from iowa said...
"Wild, unsubstantiated conspiracy bullshit. Where's the proof?"

Like...Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election?

BWAAAAHAAAHAAAHAAHHAA!

Razor said...

Former DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz uses her position to threaten DC police trying to investigate her unvetted staffer who stole national security information:

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz threatened the chief of the U.S. Capitol Police with “consequences” for holding equipment that she says belongs to her in order to build a criminal case against a Pakistani staffer suspected of massive cybersecurity breaches involving funneling sensitive congressional data offsite.

The Florida lawmaker used her position on the committee that sets the police force’s budget to press its chief to relinquish the piece of evidence Thursday, in what could be considered using her authority to attempt to interfere with a criminal investigation.


Wow, just wow.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/24/wasserman-schultz-threatened-police-chief-for-gathering-evidence-on-her-it-staffers-alleged-crimes/

Judge Wapner said...

Hillary Clinton is the only person PROVEN to have interfered in the US election.

Ask Bernie Sanders.

Judge Wapner said...

Seth Rich's dad says Brad Baumann was assigned to them by the DNC and he has no idea why.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAqZmySWsAABI1u.jpg

Fight the Power said...

Seth Rich tried to do the right thing, and paid with his life.

Are we going to let them shoot us like dogs in the street to hide their crimes?

We can't let this go. We need justice for Seth Rich.

mike from iowa said...

Judge Wapner said...

Seth Rich's dad says Brad Baumann was assigned to them by the DNC and he has no idea why.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAqZmySWsAABI1u.j

Brad Rich's dad did not say that-Buttfacesky said that. Rich said someone was assigned to them, they did not why. Ot is right in the link you provided. Another example of how wingnuts distort every god damned story to fit their narrative.

mike from iowa said...

W-S claims rules won't allow Capitol Police to hold onto "her" stuff as she is not under investigation.

If that is true, she is well within her rights to threaten the police. Got a problem with that? Take it up with the Capitol Police.

If she is wrong she should apologize- just like Drumpf does. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

mike from iowa said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

mike from iowa said...
"Wild, unsubstantiated conspiracy bullshit. Where's the proof?"

Like...Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election?

And yer evidence that he didn't collude consists of what? Let's see it. You guys have gone from No one in the campaign had contacts with Russia to figuring out if anyone didn't have contacts with Russia.

You need to learn to keep the lies straight. They are going to come back and bite yer arse.

Anonymous said...

"And yer evidence that he didn't collude consists of what?"

So now you have to prove you didn't commit a crime?

Can you prove you didn't kill Tupac?

Yer a fucking IDIOT!!!!

BWAAAAHAAAHAAAHAAHHAA!

Punchy Brewster said...

For the record, The New York Times and their Deep State buddies just caused the UK to stop intelligence sharing with U.S. For all talk about Trump, it was them.

The New York Times is officially threatening our national security.

Heads are going to roll.

mike from iowa said...

Anonymous said...

"And yer evidence that he didn't collude consists of what?"

So now you have to prove you didn't commit a crime?

No, I don't have to prove he didn't do it. You do shit fer brains.

Anonymous said...

Yer a fucking clown!

You don't even understand the basics of how any legal system has to work.

Fuck are you stupid!

mike from iowa said...

Anonymous said...

"And yer evidence that he didn't collude consists of what?"

So now you have to prove you didn't commit a crime?

No, I don't have to prove he didn't do it. You do shit fer brains.

Brigade Fifteen said...

So Trump isn't only setting a bad example for snaggle-toothed redneck deplorables across America, who keep getting caught on cellphone video throwing racist tirades whenever they believe they have not received the perfect customer service they deserve.

Now it appears that Republican candidates think they can go full Trump on the news media, as exemplified by Montana candidate for Congress Greg Gianforte, who bodyslammed a Guardian reporter for asking him a question he didn't like.

Greg Gianforte's assault charge puts Republicans in a lose-lose situation in Montana

Gianforte kind of reminds me a bit of this 'roided-up thug-and-a-half congressman from Staten Island, who threatened a reporter on camera a couple years back (and later went to jail for tax evasion).

Maybe their antics can be turned into a game. Who did it: Republicans or Tony Soprano?

mike from iowa said...

We can't let this go. We need justice for Seth Rich

Maybe it was a pre-meditated suicide and he hid the gun before he shot himself. That sounds like something you right wing consipiracy nuts would conjure up.

Drumpf's the guy with the mob buddies-foreign and domestic.

Anonymous said...

Media: "Seth Rich scandal has been debunked!"
America: "Who debunked it?"
Media: "We did."
America: "How?"
Media: "By saying it was."

The Real Story said...

"Now it appears that Republican candidates think they can go full Trump on the news media, as exemplified by Montana candidate for Congress Greg Gianforte, who bodyslammed a Guardian reporter for asking him a question he didn't like."
----

Lifelong Democrat Operative at The Guardian Ben Jacobs Lies About Assault on GOP Candidate Greg Gianforte:

A former minion for the Iowa Democratic Party now operating as a Guardian reporter, Ben Jacobs, assaulted Montana Republican House candidate Greg Gianforte on Wednesday. Jacobs has a history of opposing his political opponents’ freedom of speech, as GotNews reported in October.

Gianforte is competing against Democratic candidate Rob Quist for a House seat that opened up after President Donald J. Trump appointed Ryan Zinke to be secretary of the interior. The special election is Thursday.

A statement about Jacobs’ assault from Greg for Montana campaign spokesperson Shane Scanlon reads:

Tonight, as Greg was giving a separate interview in a private office, The Guardian’s Ben Jacobs entered the office without permission, aggressively shoved a recorder in Greg’s face, and began asking badgering questions. Jacobs was asked to leave. After asking Jacobs to lower the records, Jacobs declined. Greg then attempted to grapb the phone that was pushed in his face. Jacobs then grabbed Greg’s wrist, and spun away from Greg, pushing them both to the ground. It’s unfortunate that this aggressive behavior from a liberal journalist created this scene at our campaign volunteer BBQ.

Unfortunately for Jacobs, eyewitnesses to his unprovoked aggression are already calling him out.

@FoxNews Did NOT happen~I was there~there was a disagreement because the reporter was being extremely aggressive~there was NO body slam. NONE. Period

— Christie (@Alexa__Bella) May 25, 2017

Ricky said...

Trump shows who's boss with NATO meeting.

Support is skyrocketing.

America First!

Brigade Fifteen said...

@ The Real Story (lol)

Gianforte is going to have trouble making that story stick. The eyewitnesses to him assaulting the reporter without provocation include other reporters including Fox News, of all outfits.

He's toast.

dinthebeast said...

From Driftglass:


We’re Seth Rich’s parents. Stop politicizing our son’s murder.

...
Still, conservative news outlets and commentators continue, day after painful day, to peddle discredited conspiracy theories that Seth was killed after having provided WikiLeaks with emails from the DNC. Those theories, which some reporters have since retracted, are baseless, and they are unspeakably cruel.

We know that Seth’s personal email and his personal computer were both inspected by detectives early in the investigation and that the inspection revealed no evidence of any communications with anyone at WikiLeaks or anyone associated with WikiLeaks. Nor did that inspection reveal any evidence that Seth had leaked DNC emails to WikiLeaks or to anyone else. Indeed, those who have suggested that Seth’s role as a data analyst at the DNC gave him access to a wide trove of emails are simply incorrect — Seth’s job was to develop analytical models to encourage voters to turn out to vote. He didn’t have access to DNC emails, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee emails, John Podesta’s emails or Hillary Clinton’s emails. That simply wasn’t his job.

Despite these facts, our family’s nightmare persists. Seth’s death has been turned into a political football. Every day we wake up to new headlines, new lies, new factual errors, new people approaching us to take advantage of us and Seth’s legacy. It just won’t stop. The amount of pain and anguish this has caused us is unbearable. With every conspiratorial flare-up, we are forced to relive Seth’s murder and a small piece of us dies as more of Seth’s memory is torn away from us...

Sadly, pleading with monsters to stop being monsters rarely works. If it did, the GOP would have vanished from the face of the Earth decades ago

-Doug in Oakland

mike from iowa said...

Hannity is vacationing as advertisers drop him like a warm, moist turd. Bwahahahahaha!

Didya see Drumpf shove Montenegro's guy out of the way in his race to get face time?

New Fox poll has Drumpf at 40% favorable and Pence at 42%. Drumpf sucks that is all.

Ricky said...

So the DNC is leaning on Seth Rich's parents to put Party ahead of justice for their son.

Sickening!

P-ew said...

"New Fox poll has Drumpf at 40% favorable and Pence at 42%. Drumpf sucks that is all."

One would think you morons might be a little skeptical about Fake News polls after losing the 2016 election.

But then again, you are complete dumbasses.

dinthebeast said...

Mayor Mitch Landrieu’s Address on Removal of Four Confederate Statues:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0jQTHis3f4

-Doug in Oakland

dinthebeast said...

From Crooks and Liars, via Susie Madrak's blog:

Former CIA Director John Brennan testified on Tuesday that intelligence officials had found "contacts and
interaction" between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and agents for the Russian government.

"I'm aware of information and intelligence that revealed contacts and interactions between officials and U.S. persons involved in the Trump campaign that I was concerned about because of known Russian efforts on such individuals," Brennan told members of the House Intelligence Committee.

"And it raised questions in my mind whether or not the Russians were able to gain the cooperation of those individuals," he added. "I don't know whether or not such collusion existed. I don't know. But I know there was a sufficient basis of information to require investigation by the [FBI] to determine whether or not U.S. persons were actively conspiring, colluding with Russian officials."
---
He said that the Russians suborn US persons wittingly or unwittingly into Russian assets, but was silent of the issue of "witlessly"...

-Doug in Oakland

dinthebeast said...

Here's how the Russians stole the election:

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/334990-bad-intel-influenced-comeys-clinton-announcement-report

-Doug in Oakland

Dugg said...

"And it raised questions in my mind whether or not the Russians were able to gain the cooperation of those individuals,"

Ass-covering excuse because they got caught spying on Trump.

Losers.

Trump is a loser said...

4th circuit court upholds Trump's Muslim ban. More losing.

Brigade Fifteen said...

Okay, here's a Trump story in which I can actually laugh with, not at, the Trumps. (One of the few.)

"Ivanka Trump, the former model and presidential adviser, mistook a picture of a revered Italian footballer for a saint during a recent night out in Rome.

The first daughter was dining with her husband, Jared Kushner, at Le Cave di Sant’Ignazio on Tuesday night when she spotted a picture of former Lazio star Giorgio Chinaglia – standing on a pitch, his arms stretched out to the heavens – and asked: 'Which saint is that?'

The large photograph of Chinaglia was nestled between a crucifix and a picture of Padre Pio, a saint who is revered in Rome.

'We explained to her that it was not a saint but a great Lazio player,' Luigina Pantalone, one of the restaurant owners, told Ansa. The episode was confirmed by the Guardian."


I mean ... she's not completely wrong. This is Italy we're talking about, so soccer players practically are saints.

James Comey said...

Ass-covering excuse because they got caught spying on Trump.
-------------
Nope, Trump got caught up in routine surveillance of Russian operatives.

Whatevergate said...

Trump got caught doing what?

Because there has been zero evidence of him doing anything wrong.

All of these investigations are in search of a crime that never happened.

mike from iowa said...

Collusion. collusion, collusion--http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/anthony-nevins-roger-stone-stolen-democratic-voter-analyses

First of millions of smoking guns that right wing nut jobs will dismiss because Putin wasn't officially a member of Drumpf's campaign. I mean they have run out of stoopid excuses and they are getting desperate they will be forced to admit Drumpf sucks green weinies justy like eveyone sez he does.

Lilacpr said...

Hahaha,that is funny! She's very transparent and genuine that way!

mike from iowa said...

Drumpf hasn't done nothing wrong? He recently paid New York a million bucks for fraud dealing with Drumpf's phony school.

He was forced to pay contractors for work on Drumpf Dump South. He has been sued billions of times. Drumpf is raking in millions as bogus potus which is illegal and the only reason he is still out of jail is because wingnuts won't impeach one of their own.

Anonymous said...

"4th circuit court upholds Trump's Muslim ban. More losing"

Another decision based on the ruling judge's divination of "context" rather than the legality of the travel ban.

Big win for those who want more Muslim extremists in America, but your joy should be tempered with the realization that these judges are voiding lawful orders of the President based entirely on subjective determinations of what they feel his real motive is, and then ruling that the motive violates the Establishment Clause of the 1st amendment, which reads by the way:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

How these judges twist this to prevent the President from ordering increased vetting of non-citizens entering the country is truly astounding.

I don't think either the authors of the Constitution or the American people intended that every Federal judge have the power to void any government policy based on his personal dislike of the President.

Lilacpr said...

Brigade, my above comment refers to your story about Ivanka in Rome :)

You know she's very honest, and I'm sure she as well as everybody else saw that :)

I also like her clothes. I've taken to going to Marshall's because they have clothes like for women of my age, and recently I saw some blouses and a dress that were very pretty and perfect either for a younger woman, or one of my age, and to my surprise they were her designs! Very pretty and feminine, yet classic. I couldn't buy it because it wasn't my size and Marshall's only brings in limited quantities. But I'm planning on getting something of hers I saw.

mike from iowa said...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fox-news-journalist-eyewitness-account-greg-gianforte-allegedly/story?id=47633135

She was there and Gianforte is a right wing liar-just like all rw liars.

mike from iowa said...

Syrian refugees are vetted for nearly 2 fucking years- that is a lifetime more than any of the POS in this POS bogus potus cabinet.

Wingnuts need to quit your damn crying because the judicial system is working the way it was intended and slap somwe sense into the dumbest son of a bitch to ever infest the WH. He does not get what he wants if it is illegal-just like all rwnj.

dinthebeast said...

4th circuit stomps the unconstitutional Muslim ban into the dirt, in a 200 page ruling that basically said "We heard the repugnant un-American bullshit that you sold this stinking turd with every goddamn day of your campaign, president four-year-old, so go fuck yourself."
Next up: a similar dirt-stomp by the 9th circuit.

-Doug in Oakland

field negro said...

Wingnuts are delusional. trump's approval rating is 40% and dropping. The lowest of any president at this stage of his presidency in history.

dinthebeast said...

I don't know if this is real or not, but damn is it good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWlrauHGAbY

-Doug in Oakland

Brigade Fifteen said...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

How these judges twist this to prevent the President from ordering increased vetting of non-citizens entering the country is truly astounding."


No twisting required. It is self-evident that Trump's travel ban is religious discrimination and therefore illegal. The citizens from the countries on his list already face extensive vetting, and Trump has presented no actual evidence-based argument for singling them out in any case, beyond "Muslims iz bad."

If the court were to accept this executive order, his 90-day hold would become a 180-day hold would become a 360-day hold would become a forever hold. "Until we figure out what's going on" doesn't indicate a rational assessment of security needs. It's just a slightly nicer way of saying "go away because we don't like your religion."

Nobody is fooled about the actual motives behind this, including you. You're just mad because judges won't let you have your hate laws.

Brigade Fifteen said...

"I also like her clothes. I've taken to going to Marshall's because they have clothes like for women of my age, and recently I saw some blouses and a dress that were very pretty and perfect either for a younger woman, or one of my age, and to my surprise they were her designs!"

I have no idea what her clothing line is like, but I'll admit that she seems to be reasonably nice -- at any rate, the least loathsome member of her family.

This has led some people to grasp at straws, hoping she can somehow fix her dad, or somehow make him less horrible. Fat chance of that.

mike from iowa said...

Can you imagine the shit storm if Obama had allowed either of his daughters to sit in on classified briefings w/o security clearance? I'm afraid Ivanka is there to make money and promote her personal brands. She is not having an uplifting effect on Daddy Dumbest.

Ivory Bill Woodpecker said...

Since this is an open thread:

"Take me out to the ball game/Take me out with the crowd/Buy me some chocolate cornets and balsamic vinegar...

mike from iowa said...

Drumpf tells French President he was behind him all the way. Except he couldn't stop talking about LePen and her being on the right side of every issue.

Lilacpr said...

mike from iowa said...

Can you imagine the shit storm if Obama had allowed either of his daughters to sit in on classified briefings w/o security clearance? I'm afraid Ivanka is there to make money and promote her personal brands. She is not having an uplifting effect on Daddy Dumbest.

6:50 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Wow yes! I sure can imagine! I'd be the first one screaming! :D

Because Obama's daughters were teenagers! Obamas daughters hadn't even been to college yet, Malia finished High School on the last year of Obama's presidency! Obama's daughters were not businesswomen! and Obama's daughters had not been named as his advisors, as I believe Ivanka has.

So that's not a fair analogy ;)

Anonymous said...

"Nobody is fooled about the actual motives behind this, including you."

The stated motives are the security of the citizens of the United States.

Nowhere in the order is the word "Muslim".

The President has the authority to limit entry to the country as he sees fit.

It is nowhere in the judge's scope of authority to guess at the motives of the President.

There is no legal or reasonable reason these judges can interfere with this process.

If judges did this to Obama's orders illegally granting citizenship to people here illegally you'd have had a fit. Likewise, if these were white Christians who were receiving extra scrutiny, you wouldn't give a shit.

This is just one step closer to this whole, wretched, abomination of country getting blown up.

No justice, no peace.

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