Thursday, September 14, 2017

Dancing with the devil.

"He likes us" 

Ahhhhm, no he doesn't Chuck, trump only likes himself, and if you are dumb enough to believe that he really "likes" you (or any other person for that matter), well then you don't deserve to represent the people of the great state of New York.

Mr. trump is only playing this little game of dancing with you dumbocrats to move the needle upwards with his approval ratings. If he gets a few legislative accomplishments along the way, so be it.

Watching pundits and you dems fawn over trump for showing some signs of sanity over the past few days have been maddening. Americans have a serious case of short term memory syndrome. Pelosi and Schumer even had Chinese dinner with him over at the White House for crying out loud..

Know this, if Donald trump declared tomorrow that for as long as he is president I would not have to pay taxes (I pay a lot), I would still not support him. My principles cannot be bought. At some point dems will have to ask themselves if this dance with the orange devil is worth is. I mean what happens when the music stops? What happens when his approval ratings  go up, and he uses the bully pulpit and popularity to influence more races throughout the country? White supremacy on steroids.

And just in case  you dumbocrats forgot who trump really is, he showed you all today by doubling down on his Charlotesville comments  which he said he made to one of  those "good" Negroes sitting by his side as a prop.
Poor Tim Scott.    

"Asked about the meeting with South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott, the President told reporters on Air Force One that many people have said he had a point when he remarked that there was "blame on both sides."

"We had a great talk yesterday," Trump said of his meeting with Scott. "I think especially in light of the advent of Antifa, if you look at what's going on there. You have some pretty bad dudes on the other side also, and essentially that's what I said. Now, because of what's happened since then with Antifa — you look at really what's happened since Charlottesville, a lot of people are saying and people have actually written, 'Gee, Trump might have a point.' I said, 'You've got some very bad people on the other side also,' which is true."'

That was for his base, because condemning white supremacist and Nazis was out of the question. So instead, he gives us this two sides argument and the same old false equivalency fallacy he has been spouting since Virginia. 

Now baby those clowns in Washington will see what they are dealing with and treat him accordingly.

"The Democrats, Senator Chuck Schumer and Representative Nancy Pelosi, said in a joint statement that they had a “very productive” dinner meeting with the president at the White House that focused on the program known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA. “We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that’s acceptable to both sides,” they said.

But on Thursday morning, the president contradicted the Democrats, saying no deal had been struck" [Source]

That was a quick song. 

I guess the dance is already over. 

*Pic from



dinthebeast said...

Then he went on to tweet his support for the very deal they said they had struck.
I don't believe they are taken in by Fergus' little show, but they think that if they can get a DACA bill out of his little tantrum of hatred for his own AG, then that's a tactic worth pursuing.
What will happen to the DACA kids if they don't try?
They may fail to get a bill if their attempt to play Fergus fails, but they most certainly won't get one by staying in their offices and privately hating him.

So Sessions thinks that the abuse Fergus heaped upon him for the crime of doing his damn job is the most humiliating thing he's encountered in his entire career. Oh poor little confederate lawn jockey. It really says a lot about him that he thinks that to be the worst treatment he's ever encountered, when he can stand up in front of the cameras and advocate for the deportation of children to countries they don't know anything about, away from their families, schools, jobs, friends, and homes.
Fergus supposedly called him an idiot, which is strange, because he is right, and that almost never happens.

-Doug in Oakland

Anonymous said...

Apparently, Chuckie Schumer is quite pleased to be liked by the White-Supremacist-in-Chief. Disgusting, though not surprising.

In general, the Democrats like Schumer and Nancy Pelosi are showing their true face by cozying up to Trump.

On the one hand, they rhetorically posture as opponents of Trump (in order to placate their supporters), but in terms of actual policy, they will make deals with him and support him.

The Demorats are Republicans in political drag. And White liberals like Schumer and Pelosi are the kinder, gentler face of White Supremacy.

They may wear different "uniforms" but they all play for the same team: Wall Street, Corporate America, and White institutional power.

Remember what Malcolm X said about the "difference" between White Liberals and White Conservatives. One is like a fox, while the other is like a wolf:

"The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative. Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the art of posing as the Negro’s friend and benefactor; and by winning the friendship, allegiance, and support of the Negro, the white liberal is able to use the Negro as a pawn or tool in this political “football game” that is constantly raging between the white liberals and white conservatives.

The white conservatives aren’t friends of the Negro either, but they at least don’t try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them. But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the “smiling” fox.

The job of the Negro civil rights leader is to make the Negro forget that the wolf and the fox both belong to the (same) family. Both are canines; and no matter which one of them the Negro places his trust in, he never ends up in the White House, but always in the dog house."

PilotX said...

Nancy Pelosi has been making money and moving the agenda forward for a while. With one act she can save DACA and turn trump's base against him. I think he got taken because everyone knows all you have to do is complement him and he'll give away the store. Just ask Putin.

Flying Junior said...

That president is a fucking dick-smoker. I hate his guts. How dare he bring up the failed Charlottesville response with the senator from South Carolina? Fucking obscene.

But as far as Schumer...

My friends they come around they
Flatter, flatter, flatter, flatter, flatter, flatter, flatter
Pile it up, pile it up, pile high on the platter…

What a dumbfuck! We made fun of Trump for licking up that shit from Putin.

But Nancy Pelosi? She hates that devil Trump as much as anyone on this blog. She is just being a pragmatic politician and a good stateswoman, doing her best to try to take care of the victims and to keep the government in operation.

If you can't work with the president, it ain't gonna happen.

Goddam that fucking Trump.

Limpbaugh said...

Some other examples of "dancing with the devil" were Trump and Tulsi Gabbard agreeing on ending support of terrorists and Elijah Cummings praising Trump's ideas for lowering drug prices after they met to discuss that topic.

Limpbaugh said...

There were bad people on both sides at Charlottesville. The problem with Trump's statement was that he said there were good people on both sides. Chuck Schumer represents Israel Zionists. You have two Republican parties. It is ironic that Hillary criticizes Sanders for not being a Democrat. He is an FDR Democrat and she is a Republican, regardless of what they call themselves. He would have beat Trump. Polls during the primaries showed that, and he won the primaries where independents were allowed to vote. Conservatives hate his policies but they realize he is for the people and they respect him as a person. Some libertarian types might have voted for him. I'll remind you that Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul were the only two senators who voted against increasing sanctions on Russia.

But the DNC cheated Sanders. They wanted a pro Wall Street war monger instead. They got the easily manipulated masses to focus on an unsubstantiated "the Russians did it" shinny object. The same people who have their panties in a bunch over Russians don't care that Sanders was cheated. Let's not talk about that. Or how the Russia lie was debunked, or Imran Awan blackmailing Debbie Wasserman Schultz, or the DNC saying they have the right to rig the primaries, or James Comey exonerating Clinton before witnesses were even interviewed, or Susan Rice unmasking Trump's transition team. Let's talk about Melania's shoes.

There are different ways of saying you have an agreement that isn't finalized. It is semantics. Trump isn't Obama. The first thing Obama did to start work on Obamacare was tell the pharmaceutical companies that he won't try to bargain for wholesale drug prices if they don't oppose him. He started with a concession. Trump had said that he doesn't want to kick out dreamers, but he started negotiations for his wall by threatening to do it. What I wrote on September 6th, before the negotiations with Democrats, is what is happening. "Not that people shouldn't be worried but Trump is probably bargaining to get money for the wall. It shouldn't be hard to get a DACA deal where Dreamers can stay if they came after some agreed on previous date. The plus for anti immigrant people would be that future illegal immigration is discouraged and they get a piece of their wall. The plus for pro immigration people would be that all ready Americanized Dreamers are able to stay. There seems be a lot of otherwise conservative Republicans who side with Democrats on these issues, for DACA and against the wall. Our very conservative governor in Illinois says he will protect the Dreamers here. The corporations that sponsor both parties want DACA. A deal should be easy."

Limpbaugh said...

I suspect that the anti immigrant side might have the stronger legal argument on their side. But to me it is an issue of compassion. Trump derangement syndrome shouldn't get in the way of dreamers being able to stay and it shouldn't be causing a cold war with Russia. It might be too late for 2018 and 2020, but if you don't want a second Trump term you should have spent some time trying to clean up the Democratic Party. Most people probably realize what the Democrats wrote in Wikileaks is true, even if they still think the Russians did it. Imagine what it will be like when they find out the Russians didn't do it. And who knows what will come out from the Awan's immunity deal? The FBI and DOJ have probably always been politicized just as much, but we keep learning more about how bad it was under Obama. What will people think after Susan Rice is investigated? Will more people think Obama "wiretapped" Trump, or that Susan Rice legitimately unmasked political opponents over the Russia lie? How many people won't even bother to vote in rigged Democratic primaries?

At least Trump Trump ended the CIA support of ISIS and got a cease fire deal in Syria. We could have had people in charge who call the Russian hack lie an act of war and been shooting down Russian planes with a "no fly zone". Killing innocent people to overthrow sovereign countries. The key to beating Trump is to nominate someone better than him, not covering up how someone was worse than him.

Limpbaugh said...

The Malcolm X quote posted by Anonymous @ 2:15 AM reminds me of Fox News and MSNBC. Both lied us into the Iraq War. MSNBC fired Phil Donahue and a few other people who were against the war. We all know how Fox News blatantly promoted the Iraq War, but the supposedly liberal network, MSNBC, might have been even more despicably deceitful. After the public finally caught on, they pretended to expose the lead up to the war while they covered up how bad we were lied to. I wish I had a nickle for every time Chris Matthews called lying us in to war on purpose a "mistake".

Their Hubris documentary, written by David Corn and narrated by Rachel Maddow might have well been written by Dick Cheney. It had nothing about Cheney's energy meeting maps of the Iraqi oil fields divided up for the oil companies. Nothing about Germany telling us Curveball was a liar and an unemployed drunken taxi driver. Their documentary called him a chemical engineer. They did cover evidence that contradicted the incorrect conclusion about the aluminum tubes, but there was nothing about how this false intelligence was extorted by reassigning CIA analysts who wouldn't go along with the White House pressure to derive the false conclusion. Nothing about surrounding Osama bin Laden on three sides at Tora Bora. Their documentary just said he escaped at Tora Bora. No mention of Bush warning the U.N. inspectors to leave. MSNBC just gave the misleading explanation that the U.N. pulled the inspectors out. On a different occasion they said Saddam Hussein chased them out. If that was a reference to Hussein not letting inspectors search his palace, they should have said so and mentioned how likely it would be for him to store chemical weapons in his home.

There was no detail about how badly forged the yellow cake uranium documents were in MSNBC's documentary. NBC, not MSNBC, did do a great segment on that when it was first learned by the media though. Like with other things, the media covers something when it first happens, and then quickly sweeps it under the rug. I think sometimes they are afraid they will look stupid if everyone else reports it and they don't. That seemed to happen with 9/11 and the media consortium recount of the Florida 2000 vote. The media started to tell the truth and then hushed up. To some degree it happened with the evidence debunking the Russia hack conspiracy. Andrea Mitchell talked about who the yellow cake uranium document forger was in a panel discussion once. I still respect her for it, but sometimes I suspect that she just might not have known she wasn't supposed to talk about it.

Anonymous said...

Illegal Aliens......Not Immigrants DACA......Dumb Ass Criminal Arrivals

Anonymous said...

I can't really blame the Democrats for trying to make a deal on DACA. The alternative is the deportation of 800K people who were blameless in breaking our immigration laws.

However, the Dems shouldn't get too excited, or tout their deal too loudly or proudly. Trump is not exactly known for keeping promises. Five minutes from now, he will probably forget all about their deal and screw them.

I'll believe the "DACA problem" is solved when I see it written into law.

PilotX said...

These fools are mad they got conned by a con man. Conservatives aren't too bright.

Anonymous said...

"These fools are mad they got conned by a con man. Conservatives aren't too bright."

The list of people who are sufficiently racist to keep Ann Coulter happy is awfully short. It's like Hitler and five other people.

I am expecting a wedding announcement for her and Richard Spencer any day now. They are clearly soul mates.

mike from iowa said...

Drumpfuck is basking in the glow of congrats on his hurricane appearances. He gives credit to his FEMA appointee who only started in June. The real credit goes to Obama and his Director who rebuilt FEMA after wingnuts dismantled it under dumbass dubya. Obama saves Drumpfuck's skanky ass again. In time Drumpfuck will dismantle FEMA because of Obama's making it great again.

Fuck Drumpfuck and all Drumpfuckinistas.

field negro said...

Anon @6:53, most of them have something over you: They went to college and they have jobs.

dinthebeast said...

Mike: And Obama warned Fergus not to hire Flynn. How much less trouble would he be in right now had he taken that advice?

-Doug in Oakland

Anonymous said...

Daca is nothing more than class warfare guised in yet another faux form. The working class yet again is forced to take it in the ass and the wallet for some kind of Looney left feel good bullshit. Government whether an R or a D along with the Corporations and the Bankers have got people just stupid enough to buy into this Kumbaya shit. The tower of Babel was destroyed for more than just Nimrod's Ego and arrogance. Forced diversity and multi cult bullshit so the Banks and Corporations benefit solely will kill this country. We ain't all the same, we ain't interchangeable like fucking legos. God said so long ago.

mike from iowa said...

Have you noticed the fucking moron in the WH has stopped calling radical Muslim terrorists- radical Muslim terrorists?

Didn't make them go away did it?

Anymoose- DACA Americans pay 2 billion in taxes and cannot ever collect SS or Medicare if they aren't citizens. 95% have jobs. 0% are criminals. Many have served the only country they have ever known. What's yer story of what makes you so exceptional?

Dreamers take nothing from you or any other whiny whitey wingnut.

mike from iowa said...

Doug, you are absolutely correct as usual. I see another white drummer bit the dust. Guy from Husker Du. Don't have a clue whether he was any good or not.

mike from iowa said...

Another white cop gets away with murdering another black man!

Get yer skanky ass in here and defend the cop, Baldingo!

Bold, James Bold said...

"DACA Americans"

There's no such thing as a "DACA American".  They are not even lawfully present in this country.

"pay 2 billion in taxes and cannot ever collect SS or Medicare if they aren't citizens."

Flat wrong.  All they need are 40 quarters of employment and no other disqualifications, and due to their low incomes they will be heavily subsidized by Americans.

"95% have jobs."

Jobs Americans need desperately.  There are 94 million Americans of working age out of work, regardless of whether they're officially deemed "unemployed" or not.

"0% are criminals."

No fewer than 2139 DACA recipients convicted of crimes.  IOW, a load of bull.

Now watch Dougie claim that they lose their DACA so aren't DACA recipients any more, so by definition none of them are criminals.  Goalpost-moving is what leftards do.

"Dreamers take nothing from you or any other whiny whitey wingnut."

Only the prospect of uncongested roads, reasonable rents, an end to "Press 1 for English", schools that teach academics instead of trying to get somewhere with children who have no English and whose families may never have owned a book... things like that.

It's funny to see Dougie siding with globalist billionaires, but... lefTARDs.

mike from iowa said...

Here is part of the judge's ruling that freed another cop/murderer-
Al Watkins, an attorney for Smith’s fiancee, Christina Wilson, said his client was appalled by the decision. He said the ruling showed prejudice, pointing to a line where the judge wrote that an “urban heroin dealer” without a weapon would be an anomaly.

The cop planted a gun and claimed self defense.

mike from iowa said...

Jobs Americans need desperately? Drumpf dump in Florida recently petitioned the government to hire foreign workers again, because Americans didn't want that work and don't want to work for A blatant racist bitch.

Dreamers have to reach retirement age and be employed at least 10 years. By the time HRC's two terms as potus would have ended in 2024 the oldest dreamers will only be 43 years old with at least another 20 plus years of dodging all the shit racist wingnuts can throw at them. If Drumpf deports them they would have to start all over again as Dreamers.

mike from iowa said...

All of Baldingo's right wing sites use the exact same numbers for the number of immigrants that have or been accused of committing crimes. Gang members are not eligible to be in the program. Anyone having committed a felony, a serious misdemeanor or three or more minor misdemeanors are not eligible for the program. Any dreamers that have committed crimes are no longer members.

Big Black James Bold said...

Because James' dumb ass cares about poor Americans and the umemployment rate. Funny, never seen you post about populist causes. GTFOH, you're too busy bragging about SAT scores and stupid shit like that.

pterochromics said...

@ mike from iowa - Yup, because most people don't know that Google uses tracking cookies which feed data into the Google algorithms, and then the "search" engine increasingly feeds them *ONLY* the data that it has calculated they want to see.
Since they don't know enough to turn off the tracking cookies, and delete + overwrite the ones which are already there, their view of the world is increasingly restricted, and they end up only seeing the same things over and over.

This is not only right-wingers - *MOST* people do not realize that this occurs every time they do a Google search, and don't know that 1) they can stop that from happening, and 2) they can use free *private* search engines which do not track them.

I suppose this originated as a marketing ploy, but the people who set it up either did not think through the ramifications, or else just didn't care. But if there was one thing I could tell everyone possible regarding the internet, it would be the damaging effect of tracking cookies and the algorithms which use the data collected to narrow people's world-view down to a pin-hole :(

James is a loser said...

James is upset because his dumbass is a lowskilled individual who can't find a job. It stands to reason he blames immigrants for his lack of success. I guess he has no mirrors in his house.

mike from iowa said...

A couple sadder notes- Cassini Spacecraft (age 20) and superb character actor Harry Dean Stanton (age 91) have left the building today.

James is pretty dumb said...

it would be the damaging effect of tracking cookies and the algorithms which use the data collected to narrow people's world-view down to a pin-hole
No, James is just an idiot.

Damn said...


Anonymous said...

Progressives are dumb......

Progressive Joe said...

And still much smarter than conservatards.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Progressives are dumb......

- More like dumbstruck by the absolute absurdity of "logic" like that :p

Anonymous said...

Chuck is a Schmuck

Anonymous said...

progressives are delusional.........

Anonymous said...


Bold, James Bold said...

"in Florida recently petitioned the government to hire foreign workers again, because Americans didn't want that work"

Or can't afford to commute long distances through hostile territory.  The solution is to get rid of the hostiles.

If you hate Trump so much, why not make him pay enough to get American applicants or shut down?  You won't because you hate Americans more than you hate Trump.

"Dreamers have to reach retirement age and be employed at least 10 years."

They can collect SSI or disability at any age.

"Gang members are not eligible to be in the program."

Which only stops them if they're caught.  It certainly doesn't stop them from murdering Americans.

"most people don't know that Google uses tracking cookies which feed data into the Google algorithms, and then the "search" engine increasingly feeds them *ONLY* the data that it has calculated they want to see."

I run Google Disconnect, use a "don't track me" plugin for Google, and almost never go directly there.  I use StartPage, and go to Bing when I suspect my search results are being censored (which they are often enough to know there are shenanigans going on).

Every time you mention something, it turns out I'm way ahead of you.  This should give you a clue.

pterochromics said...

- No - every time I, or someone else, mentions anything you assume it all MUST center around you. Sorry, but "most people" is not the same as, or "code" for, "the ONE specific dood who hates non-whites but posts endlessly on a Black guy's blog under the name 'James Bold'".
- Sorry but no, "everyone" is not talking about you all of the time.
- Re "hostile territory", sounds like you consider that to be anywhere that another human being is within 50 miles of you. Treat others with hostility, and that's what gets returned back to you. Well, either that, or they simply don't bother with the boredom of dealing with your hostility.
- In fact, I promise that I'll not give you a even a first though, never mind a second, while I go cut my steel project-pieces.
- Have a nice day. I know I will :)

KEMELYEN said...

@pterochromics 2:10 PM

Yeah. Not very "bold" at all

dinthebeast said...

Hostile territory? Dude, my friends all want me to find out from you where they can get a drug that makes you that delusional, but I keep telling them that anything's possible when you have LMC, but it's not worth the trouble of removing chunks of your brain. Not really my idea of a good time.

-Doug in Oakland

Anonymous said...

dinthebeast said...
Hostile territory? Dude, my friends all want me to find out from you where they can get a drug that makes you that delusional.
-Doug in Oakland
6:26 PM

UC Berkley

Ankita Tiwari said...