Wednesday, September 06, 2017

OPEN THREAD WEDNESDAY.

MORE DISCLAIMERSIt's open thread Wednesday field hands, and I need to know what's on your mind.

You should be thinking about a lot, because there are all kinds of things jumping off in the world right  now.

Hurricanes, racism, corruption, creepy fathers and daughters, right wing radio hosts who are off their rocker, you name it.

Holla.

53 comments:

Limpbaugh said...

SPOILER ALERT! In her book, "It's Not My Fault", Hillary says she stopped having Anthony Weiner print the classified documents because the pages were stuck together. We also find out that Putin didn't tell her to not campaign in Wisconsin. Bernie Sanders did.

Yīshēng said...

All these weather related occurrences on tRump's watch are NO coincidence.

Emma Boomer said...

Field Negro is one of the most fair minded people on the internet. When he calls someone "racist", you know it must be something exceptional. Field has bent over backwards trying to be fair to Trump, showing Herculean patience in giving the President a chance, but now even he has reached the point where he feels it is necessary to voice some disagreement and yes, even express some doubt over Trump's commitment to prioritizing the needs of POC over the rest of the population.

We have crossed a line, people. Hold onto your hats!

Limpbaugh said...

This article was briefly on the front page of Google News. Soon after pro regime change war propaganda lies, like those of the CIA controlled Washington Compost were raised above it. Hopefully the U.S. led coalition protection of ISIS the article refers to was in the past. It could be, since that siege had been going on for three years. There have been mixed signals about how non interventionist Trump really is. Ending the covert CIA support of ISIS was his most impressive accomplishment in my opinion. It seems like a no brainer, but it took standing up to the deep state. I would prefer many of Obama's or Hillary's policies and appointments over Trump's, but they should be hung for supporting ISIS. That was unacceptable. http://en.abna24.com/news/middle-east/int%E2%80%99l-coalition-delayed-deir-ez-zor-victory-due-to-protection-of-terrorism_852616.html

Limpbaugh said...

Antifa should go after Joe Arpaio. Get a real racist, a cop who wouldn't investigate rapes of minority children, instead of statues.

Kill all the Gringos said...

Trump tweeted this SEETHING, UNTHINKING HATE today:

"We want our companies to hire & grow in AMERICA, to raise wages for AMERICAN workers, & to help rebuild our AMERICAN cities & towns!"

dinthebeast said...

Here's a letter to the editor written by a white woman in Salt Lake City (via Crooks and Liars):

I am a 67-year-old American white woman. My parents enlisted in World War II to fight fascism. They both served; my mother was a nurse, my father navigated bombers. They lost friends in that bloody war so that all the world could be free of fascism. They did not fight so that some white people could claim supremacy or that Nazis could openly walk the streets of America.

White person to white supremacist person: What is wrong with you?

People of European heritage are doing just fine in the world. They run most of the world’s institutions, hold much of the world’s wealth, replicate as frequently as other humans. You’re not in any danger here. The world is changing, that’s true. Others want a piece of the pie. They work for it, strive for it and earn it. Technology (robotics) is having a greater effect on your job prospects than immigrants. Going forward, tackling corporate control and climate change will need all of our attention, ideas and energy. Put down your Tiki torches and trite flags and get involved in some real work.

By the way, the world won the war against Nazi fascism in the 1940s, just as America won the war against the Confederacy in the 1860s. Aligning with two lost causes just labels you as profound losers.

And finally, white person to white person: Like my parents before me, I will not stand idly by nor give up my rights or the rights of other Americans because you think you are better than some of us. It doesn’t work that way. All Americans stand shoulder to shoulder against your hatred and bigotry.

Jonna Rarney Salt Lake City

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/09/letter-week-slams-neo-nazis-best-way

-Doug in Oakland

dinthebeast said...

No walldoggle funding in the CR, from what I read. Fergus seemed happy about the deal, even though the Republicans didn't get anything they wanted, most likely because he cut the deal with competent legislators who have reputations for getting things done and are in the habit of showing up to meetings with workable plans already written, instead of the clown posse that is the Republican conference.

-Doug in Oakland

Master of Reality said...

What a weird world Doug lives in.

Limpbaugh said...

Do people know that Comey drafted his Hillary exoneration statement well before the investigation ("matter") was over? Before she was interviewed (not under oath) and multiple other witnesses (who were granted immunity) were interviewed. It is pretty obvious that he was following orders from at least as high as Loretta Lynch. Obama knew Hillary used a private server, but Lynch is the one who met with Bill Clinton.


The FBI claimed there wasn't enough public interest to release additional emails but a judge overruled them. We want to read all 33,000 of those emails about yoga lessons and Chelsea's wedding. Imran Awan's wife, also on the payroll as a another Democratic "IT staffer", has a deal to return from Pakistan and testify. With Chris Wray as FBI Director, instead of Comey, Debbie Wasserman Schultz could be in big trouble. Imran Awan knew her password. At different times, emails were stored on offsite servers of three different private companies, including the one that did the "Russia hack" investigation. The DNC never allowed the government to see their "hacked" server. But the media will let you continue to think "the Russians did it" even though the download speeds were too fast for a remote hack. The emails were copied locally.

I heard some lying asshole on the Stephanie Miller show the other day say all Trump has to do is tell the NSA to look for the hack transmission. Actually, the VIPS group told Obama that while he was still in office. And then Obama announced there is no proof that the Russians hacked the emails. The NSA, who would have proof if the Russians did it, is only "moderately confident' the Russians did it. Iraq has WMDs deja vu.

The deep state swings a big one but there is a lot of pressure on Trump to expose the Russia hack lie and some of the other Democratic Party corruption. If he really wants to drain the swamp he should also go after the Bush Administration criminals too. There is no pressure for him to do that though. Obama got away with protecting them. Al Capone was convicted of tax evasion. If war criminals like Hillary are convicted of security clearance violations and Dick Cheney for torture, that would at least be something. But Obama even paid for Rumsfeld's defense against torture charges, with your money. And it sure looks like Debbie Wasserman Schultz paid off her blackmailers with your money.

Bill said...

“White supremacist” is nothing more than a cudgel, to be used without mercy against anyone who says, however reluctantly, that: yes, we are white, and we are not ashamed of it, and if you are determined to divide all of society into competing racial groups, then our people will have to play the game too.

1) If White Supremacy is a policy, who is implementing it? The government? Is the government insuring the economic superiority of Whites? How? By what programs?

2) Blacks have every right to demand legal and political equality, but they cannot reasonably demand economic equality. That is something they have to work for.

3) Whites are in an economically superior position to blacks, no doubt, but one cannot validly infer from this that Blacks have been unjustly discriminated against.

4) It is false that Whites enjoy by birth legal and political privileges denied to Blacks. If you think they do, name the privileges.

5) Suppose a white Southerner considers slavery a grave moral evil and is glad the Union was preserved. He opposes, however, the Left’s iconoclasm re: statues of Robert E. Lee, et al. Is this person a White supremacist?

6) If ‘white supremacist’ is not to be just another smear word like ‘racist,’ then it has to be defined. How ought it be defined?

7) Suppose Whites as a group are superior to Blacks as a group in some respect 'X', and suppose Jones points this out. Is Jones a white supremacist with respect to X? This raises the question: How can White Supremacism with respect to X be a bad thing, which it is supposed to be, if it is true?

8) Wolff’s decoupling of White Supremacy from hatred suggests that he is thinking of it as something ‘institutional’ or ‘systemic.’ Are our institutions white supremacist? What might that even mean given that our institutions allowed for the elimination of slavery and Jim Crow?

Malcolm Pollack said...

Consider: a generation of identitarian politics across the West has deliberately cultivated tribal resentments among non-whites. For decades white people have been blamed in media and academia for all the world’s ills, while aggressive immigration policies have openly sought to make them minorities in every one of their homelands (a prospect that is widely celebrated in our mainstream institutions). In colleges and universities, white applicants are disfavored for admission, while curricula feature pugnacious courses on eliminating “whiteness”. At the Academy Awards, a black actor says of his latest film “I get to kill all the white people! How great is that?”, and the audience laughs and cheers.

Is it any wonder, then, that in this toxic climate, many white people are developing a sense of identitarianism themselves? This is not “supremacy”; it is nothing more than a perfectly natural (and, therefore, easily predictable) sense of unity and belonging, in an explicitly and increasingly hostile environment. Express this readily understandable sentiment in public, however, and you are now a “white supremacist” — and your sense of identity is not mere attachment, but can only be “hate”.

Anonymous said...

REMEMBER:

Democrats choose illegal aliens over American citizens. Election Day is Tuesday, November 6th, 2018.

dinthebeast said...

REMEMBER:

Republicans choose hateful bigotry with no benefit to anyone, including themselves over the good of the country and the people who live and work here.
There are many, many upcoming elections, and a redrawing of the congressional districts in 2021.

-Doug in Oakland

dinthebeast said...

"Is it any wonder, then, that in this toxic climate, many white people are developing a sense of identitarianism themselves?"

Oh, poor, poor, put upon white people. Is it any wonder anyone with two working neurons to rub together sees this sort of whining about nothing for what it is and discounts anything else being said by such pampered little babies? WWWWAAAHHH!!! I can't call them niggers and buy or sell them any more!!! My heritage! My beautiful, beautiful, heritage! They're disrespecting it!

Go fuck yourself. In your butt. With a sheep.

-Doug in Oakland

Bold, Black James Bold said...

Is that the dumb Bill from a few years ago who disappeared when another old white guy was nominated for the gop ticket? The guy who bragged about how diverse the gop field was? I hope it isn't THAT Bill, he was pretty dumb though not as dumb as Jamie Bitch.

Flying Junior said...

Bill,

You fucking nailed it, bro. I am deeply prejudiced against nazis, kkk and white supremacists. I don't even give bigots much harbor. Good show! WTF is wrong with me? Why am I so non-inclusive? Nazis have rights too. What comes next? Legally prosecuting murderers?

Keep coming back. Your voice is important.

Flying Junior said...

If Limbaugh states that weather reports, first-hand accounts and worst of all, NASA satellite images of the hurricanes are fabricated...

Well, his loyal followers will believe him. Soon he will be as marginalized as Coulter or Geller. The guy needs an income stream.

First it was 100 year events. Now it's one thousand year events, only thing is now there are two such events in so many weeks. Maybe its just the worst hurricane year ever. That would make sense after ten to fifteen years of record-breaking heat. Who was it that recorded the flood in Houston in the early eleventh century? Or was it in the twelfth century? Wasn't that before they dug the shipping channels and over-developed the low-lying greater Houston area? Wetlands. Don't fuck with Mother Nature.

Don't worry residents of the Gulf and Floridians. I am told that not only Paul Ryan, but also the president himself are very concerned for your welfare. You've already got three months and the first $7 billion.

Deennaa said...

The american white people are so far removed from their history. Why is it so hard to grasp that they are the original "immigrants"/illegal aliens"? They never mention that in the eyes of Indian tribal people here, this america they claim as theirs is STILL stolen. Do these people who are so proud of their american "patriot-ism" believe that Indian people of this nation are so successfully "assimilated"/vanished/hidden/hardly a part of any mainstream american anything - that there really are no more Indian objector's to their thieving rapist genocidal history? It seems this nation "indivisible with justice and liberty for all" is the ongoing sham and lie. One big false advertisement. Its hypocrisy reeks. Among the many sins it has succumbed to. Your new President seems to have finally represented who you really are underneath all your labels you describe yourselves with. You know, republican, democrat, libertarians, independents, conservatives and now as nazi's and white supremacists. You so easily dehumanize with your many labels. Those white supremacists with their proud nazi salutes don't seem to realize how they are dehumanizing themselves with their terrible racism. So over 500 years later, your illegally claimed american nation has fallen into mental illness. We Indians see it everywhere here "from sea to shining sea". This little box can not hold the layers of your ignoble past and the ways it has shaped you into this 21st century. ----Ahtna Dene/"american Indian"

Flying Junior said...

Maybe the attitude of white superiority and manifest destiny actually began with the British Empire, as much as I love my British cousins. If one reads the inscriptions on the tombs in the Westminster Abbey, you quickly realize that they saw their role as that of bringing Christianity and civilisation to the heathen aborigines of the world. Never mind that they subjugated these peoples. They were still, somehow better off to serve their British masters than they were on their own. This was, of course, true for all of the colonizing nations, Spain, France and the Netherlands to name the most prominent examples. But the thirteen colonies that founded our nation were British colonies.

Anonymous said...

WE INTERRUPT THIS PROGAM TO BRING YOU THIS SPECIAL BULLETIN:

Some people will resort to anything when trying to tie a legitimate (unstolen) culture to the Europeans.
Clovis people were part of the same Native American Indian tribes that were here before the Europeans arrived.

Clovis people (like all Native Americans) all came from Asia by crossing the land bridge through Siberia, Alaska and then down into what we now call the Americas. DNA has proven this.

The crazy myth that they were of European heritage was disproven through DNA testing. There is no way in hell that they originated in France or anywhere in Europe.

People lie, but DNA shows the truth.

ANOTHER FACT:
Even the swastika used by "black hating" and "Jew hating" and "gay hating" Neo-Nazis and KKK members originated in India, Asia, and Southeast Asia.....(PEOPLE OF COLOR) And that's also a FACT!

Anonymous said...

ORiIGIN OF THE SWASTIKA:
The swastika (as a character 卐 or 卍) is an ancient religious icon originated and was used in the Indian subcontinent, East Asia and Southeast Asia, where it has been and remains a sacred positive symbol of spiritual principles in Buddhism, Hinduism, and Jainism.

Here in the Western world, it was historically a symbol of auspiciousness and good luck, but in the 1930s,
when the KKK stole the swastika from Asians the KKK started using it as a hate symbol. it became the main feature of Nazi symbolism as an emblem of Aryan race identity, and as a result, it has become stigmatized in the West by association with ideas of racism, hate, and mass murder.

field negro said...

*looking for some tissue for Malcolm @12:20 AM right now*

Anonymous said...

Conversation Among North Koreans
Conversation Among the Chinese
Conversation Among Putin and his Clan
Conversation Among Greedy American CEO's and corporations:

"Shhh... Listen. These stupid uneducated, poor white Americans are still fighting a race war with minorities.
Good. Let them keep fighting amongst themselves, and while they do that we'll continue on with our plans.

It's been working for years..pit the poor whites against every minority of color. Make poor whites think that the only reason they're not rich or educated is because of "those minorities." It works every time."

Anonymous said...

More corporate greed. Even after making upwards of a billion dollars profit on "checked bag fees"
the airlines are now price gouging people trying to evacuate Florida during a hurricane.

mike from iowa said...

Limpaw-this is the 21st century, do try to keep up. Comey's draft was just a DRAFT. It wasn't the final report. Tell me what earthshaking revelation was found between the time the draft was written until the final report was issued.

HRC did not create ISIS as you asserted wrongly a few days ago.

mike from iowa said...

You know what wingnuts think of anchor babies-especially those of color? Wealthy Russkies are swarming Drumpf's properties in America to have anchor baby Russkies. I'm sure as long as this remains a lucrative and illegal payoff to Drumpfuck, he'll say nothing about it.

mike from iowa said...

Bill said- 4) It is false that Whites enjoy by birth legal and political privileges denied to Blacks. If you think they do, name the privileges.

Citizens of color still have to fight whitey wingnuts to exercise their right to vote. It never ends and never will until whitey wingnuts are destroyed.

Whites don't have POC blocking their voting rights.

Yīshēng said...

This piece by Ta'nehisi Coates is POWERFUL!!

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/the-first-white-president-ta-nehisi-coates/537909/

egg said...

Flying Junior said...
They were still, somehow better off to serve their British masters than they were on their own
---

History has proven this to be true.

mike from iowa said...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/opinion/white-students-unfair-advantage-in-admissions.html

Asian students have to score higher on tests than whites, blacks and others to get accepted into college. Whites get the advantage of being white.

Anonymous said...

RE: Yisheng @10:05 A.M.

Thanks for sharing the article entitled: "TRUMP, THE FIRST WHITE PRESIDENT"

It was awesome!!!! ...and so true.

mike from iowa said...

Drumpfuck Jrs sinate hearing was handled by aides and a few Dem Senators attended. Wither the Russia.......wingnuts?

anotherbozo said...

If anyone's still reading this thread, you might want to watch U.S. Open Tennis Semifinals tonight at 7. All four players are American, and three are POC.
One is a legend (Venus Williams), the oldest player ever to make it this far in this tournament.

And they're playing in Arthur Ashe Stadium.

Yisheng is a genius said...

You're late, been watching since day 1.��

Affirmative Action Jackson said...

Asian students have to score higher on tests than whites, blacks and others to get accepted into college. Whites get the advantage of being white
--

Complete lie.

Asians and whites are penalized so that morons like Yisheng can spend 40 years trying to be a doctor.

egg said...

The same people who make a living whining about the destructive effects of "whiteness" would rather die than move to a non-white country.

The Current Year said...

Things more offensive than Satan to Americans in 2017: whiteness, spelling, logic, individuality, masculinity, Donald Trump.

Yisheng is a genius said...


It's a damn shame what's going on (rather what's not going on) in Haiti right now.

Anonymous said...

It's a damn shame what's going on (rather what's not going on) in Haiti right now.

If you're talking about the hurricane, cross your fingers for them. It looks like Haiti and the Dominican Republican are not going to take a direct hit.

Barbuda did take a direct hit and got destroyed.

Next up are Turks and Caicos, Bahamas, and Florida. People from Miami should be in their cars right now, hauling ass out of there, if they haven't left already.

Anonymous said...

*Dominican Republic, lol

mike from iowa said...

egg said...

The same people who make a living whining about the destructive effects of "whiteness" would rather die than move to a non-white country

What a stoopid asinine comment to make. This is America where every one is supposed to be equal. No one is better than anyone else. No one should be expected to leave for correctly criticizing what goes on to ensure white privilege rules.

Yīshēng said...

Why is CNN normalizing this "Southern White House" bullshit, which costs tax payers MILLIONS??

Anderson Poopshoot said...

Why is someone as dumb as Yisheng allowed to vote?

mike from iowa said...

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - FBI Director Christopher Wray said on Thursday he has “not detected any whiff of interference” by the White House into the ongoing investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

OMFG, why did he release this now before the probe is over with. The fucking sky is gonna fall and then you'll all be sorry. Wah, wah, wah!

You need to be downwind to smell the corruption, not upwind where the stench can't blow.

Yīshēng said...

tRump BANNED from Chicago!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/chicago-mayor-trump-free-zone-rahm-emanuel-daca-dreamers-programme-us-president-sanctuary-city-a7931646.html

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA

Blacked Out said...

Why won't TaNehisi Coates stop shouting 'nigger'?

He must have Tourette's.

Yīshēng said...

While tRump is grabbing p"ssy, his ethics Lawyer's wife is grabbing INMATE d***!

http://www.fauquier.com/news/court-records-wife-of-trump-org-ethics-attorney-arrested-after/article_04083c9a-930a-11e7-8f7f-43944bf28329.html

mike from iowa said...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-navy/many-u-s-navy-ships-in-pacific-lack-certification-watchdog-idUSKCN1BI2YD?feedType=RSS&feedName=newsOne&google_editors_picks=true

About one third of Navy ships in the Pacific are not combat trained or ready for war. I blame Drumpf. He is a handy scapegoat and can always use the excuse he was elected by Putin to excuse any wrongdoing.

Anonymous said...

"While tRump is grabbing p"ssy, his ethics Lawyer's wife is grabbing INMATE d***!

http://www.fauquier.com/news/court-records-wife-of-trump-org-ethics-attorney-arrested-after/article_04083c9a-930a-11e7-8f7f-43944bf28329.html"


I did not read any farther than the part of the headline that said "Trump Org ethics attorney." That is a hilarious combination of words right there.

Anonymous said...

"About one third of Navy ships in the Pacific are not combat trained or ready for war. "

Affirmative action tranny navy.

Anonymous said...

Re: Eric Bolling Ousted From Fox News For Sending Women Lewd Messages and Photos of His Genitals

White men can't keep their d _ _ _ s in their pants....
... they grab women by the pussies,
and call their daughters a "piece of ass."

...And ya'll call Blacks and other men of color the savages? HAH

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