Happy Holidays field hands!
Let's see what happens in the new year with this Elon Musk presidency. It should be very interesting.
If you voted against the con man and his crony, just sit back and enjoy the ride. MAGA wanted to "own the libs", and now they will have their FAFO moment.
Stay safe.
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Elon Musk isnt POTUS. Donald J. Trump is.
https://x.com/jayroo69/status/1870114882592342491/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1870114882592342491¤tTweetUser=jayroo69
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/here-is-what-is-included-american-relief-act/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/lying-trump-wants-cut-social-security-dems-rush/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14201711/democrats-social-security-bill-cost-average-couple.html
Well let's go back a few years. REMEMBER: They rewarded "that other one" 2 terms in office and in return "that other one" delivered to them a 20 year war with the wrong country, and a stock market crash disabling millions of working class Americans. And then, the victims prayed for and were delivered a "Black Messiah" to clean up their mess and save them from themselves. And after he cleaned up their mess, (including giving them a much needed Affordable Care Act (yes, Obama Care) to help keep working class Americans from liquidating their assets and selling their homes if they ever got sick and didn't have health insurance), and he also delivered a host of other things to help women and the entire working class community in America. But as usual, after he cleaned up their mess, they went back to 400 years of what they have been systematically taught and brainwashed to do. Isn't it interesting how a smokescreen is kept in place to keep them ignorant. After all, one of " you know who's" supporters recently said the following on camera during an interview:
" ...Maybe it's time for America to have a dictator." WTF! Just ask any of the millions who came to America to escape a dictator in their own country if ANY country is ready or better off with a dictator!!!!!
About the deportation threat...Maybe they'll just deport a couple of hundred just for optics and to quiet the followers ( just like with that border wall promise from the first time around.) But as both sides know, the entire American economy would "FALL" without illegal aliens. There is a history that shows theyve always looked for "slave labor" to get their jobs done (aka workers that are not citizens and that could therefore be exploited. Forced to work long hours with little to no pay, no bathroom breaks, in the hot sun, no benefits, no medical insurance, no vacation, no sick leave, unsafe, working conditions, and harassment.) Also, they all know that without so called "illegal aliens" the whole American economy would fall apart because there simply wouldn't be enough American citizens seeking jobs such as: picking crops by hand on hundreds upon hundreds of acres of farms, doing landscaping, cleaning hotels, doing nails, delivering food on bikes,caring for rich aging parents in nursing homes, working as mammies/nannies& domestics, cleaning airports , and working in poultry factories... and the list goes on and on. Remember people entering the USA the "right way" with their paperwork aren't signing up to do this very difficult work because with their papers they don't have to. They can take different kinds of jobs. Furthermore, because when illegals finally work their way out of indentured servitude and get their paperwork they also leave the fields for safer and better opportunities thus creating the need for a steady flow of migrants. This is the reason why illegals continue to be brought in by the thousands.
One political side brings them into the country during the daylight hours while the other one does it secretly at night.
The AHC is a disaster. It has actually cause health care to go up to insane levels. Not affordable.
President Musk is getting an unwanted shout-out today.
The terrorist who drove his car into a German Christmas market, killing 5 and injuring numerous others, is a former Saudi citizen. Everyone’s first guess would be that this guy is probably a jihadi. But nope. He fled Saudi Arabia because he had renounced Islam, and now hates the faith. And he is a big fan of Elon Musk and the German fascist party the AfD and other assorted racist nutjobs.
Now, why would an immigrant to Germany support right-wing immigrant-haters and carry out an attack that would help reinforce their views? Not a clue. There are apparently a lot of people out there that have ignorant and incoherent political views.
See also: Luigi Mangione, who recognizes that the US healthcare system is unjust, but also subscribes to wacky right-wing views that would make it impossible for him to vote for Democrats — aka the only ones who would take action to reform US healthcare.
And that meant the only outlet for his rage was to pointlessly shoot a health insurance exec. The man he shot will only be replaced with another health insurance exec that will behave exactly the same because the healthcare regulations and economic incentives haven’t been changed in any way by the shooting.
The fall of Assad in Syria opened the possibility of lots of Syrian refugees (who are a major driver in the rightward shift in Europe) returning to their homeland. So it stands to reason that some other immigrant would need to perform some atrocity to reinforce the xenophobia the European right is built upon.
Our migrants are an essential part of our economy, (try getting your roof repaired without them) and any effort to deport them en masse would destabilize said economy. They remain a convenient scapegoat for discontent caused mainly by the policies enacted to protect the very wealthy, and until a suitable alternative distraction can be deployed, they will continue to be denigrated for votes and profit.
As for the ACA, it was thought up by the Heritage Foundation, enacted in Massachusetts by Mitt Romney, and was the only politically feasible plan to lower the ridiculous uninsured rate circa 2008. It's major flaw is that it retains private insurance as the major provider of coverage when private insurance is only there to take resources out of the system in the form of profits and adds no discernible benefit to healthcare in this country.
Government run healthcare is far more efficient and provides for better outcomes, as anyone with Medicare or Tricare can tell you.
Perhaps some day the goddamn Republicans can be marginalized far enough to allow for the enactment of a single payer system, but until then, the ACA's mandate and subsidies Rube Goldberg device is the best we will be able to do. As Krugman noted in one of his latest articles, the taxpayers are already paying for 80%+ of US healthcare, but we're also paying for the profits of an entire parasitical industry in the private insurance sector, so the costs to the average American aren't going to skyrocket if we dump this system. It's just a heavy political lift to get the majority of US workers who get their coverage through their employers to support blowing that up in favor of something they are told will be better, while Republicans and the insurance industry scream at them about death panels and socialism.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
"Our migrants are an essential part of our economy, (try getting your roof repaired without them) and any effort to deport them en masse would destabilize said economy."
Notwithstanding the fact that this is dumb, Trump will still try to do it. It's inconceivable that he would make mass deportations such a key part of his campaign pitch and then not implement them to any degree.
The question is how far he takes it before he inevitably fails and gives up. And how much damage, both to human lives and the economy, will be caused in the process.
The last time we attempted this was back in the the 1950s, when something like a million people (some of them natural-born American citizens of Latino descent!) were deported or otherwise driven out of the country in the Eisenhower administration federal program known as Operation Wetback. And yes, that was its official name, because America was that overtly racist back then.
Somehow amidst all the other horrors I was expecting with Trump, I wan't counting on Musk leading him around like a pet!
“Somehow amidst all the other horrors I was expecting with Trump, I wan't counting on Musk leading him around like a pet!”
Trump isn’t good at taking orders from anybody, but he’s also kinda dumb. He doesn’t have many original ideas of his own, so, like a sponge, he tends to soak up the beliefs of the horrible people he surrounds himself with.
Who will be the people around him? Well, a lot of mindless dolts like Pete Hegseth. But also a ton of rich a$$holes like Musk. There are at least ELEVEN billionaires who will be serving in the Trump administration.
This means that the answer to absolutely any problem that confronts the Trump administration will be: give rich people all the money. Just your standard plutocratic Republican crap, only more so.
To anyone who voted for Trump and didn’t expect this result: Congrats, you’re a dope.
Anon @7:27 pm nailed it about trump. It's why he is so transactional in all of his dealings.
"Elon Musk isnt POTUS. Donald J. Trump is."
Wrong again, Joe Biden is the president.
And the asshole who rammed his car into the Christmas market in Germany was anti-immigrant, so he probably won't be the scapegoat the right is looking for.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Pedorats cutting your social security.
Trump did win in 2020.
TDS
https://nypost.com/2024/12/19/us-news/white-house-aides-hid-bidens-apparent-mental-decline-from-day-1-of-his-presidency-explosive-report-reveals/
“And the asshole who rammed his car into the Christmas market in Germany was anti-immigrant, so he probably won't be the scapegoat the right is looking for.”
He may be anti-immigrant … but he is still an immigrant himself. And that is all that the AfD will need to make their argument. He is violent. He is foreign.
He may argue that foreigners need to be kept out. And the AfD will say, “Yes, we agree. We should keep YOU out!”
“Who will be the people around him? Well, a lot of mindless dolts like Pete Hegseth. But also a ton of rich a$$holes like Musk. There are at least ELEVEN billionaires who will be serving in the Trump administration.”
Correction, should have been THIRTEEN billionaires. The link I posted enumerated them as eleven — plus Ramaswamy and Musk.
So the "economic anxiety" thing continues to be partisan bullshit:
https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/a-win-for-the-vibecession-story
-Doug in Sugar Pine
“So the ‘economic anxiety’ thing continues to be partisan bullshit:”
Undoubtedly, there is plenty of genuine economic anxiety out there, in a country as unequal and unfair as ours. What there is a shortage of is economic comprehension. The “voters know best” narrative is the partisan bullshit.
There is a certain selection of annoying commentators who constantly chimed in over the last year, saying “don’t tell the voters they’re wrong about the economy.” And they really need to STFU, because the voters WERE wrong, really wrong, about how the economy works.
The reality is, as Krugman says, it’s a “vibecession.” Macroeconomically, in terms of GDP, employment, inflation, the economy is doing great. I’m not talking about the issue of fairness and distribution of wealth, which is a separate economic question. But just considering the collective size and health of the economy, it’s doing great, the economic indicators capture it all, and rank-and-file voters don’t have some special secret knowledge that out-of-touch, elite economists are somehow missing. The voters are simply f*cking wrong!
Or, more accurately, they’ve been lied to, and they swallowed the lies. So what’s the solution in such a situation? People don’t like being told they’ve been deceived, I do get that. And I confess I don’t know the solution. I could never be a politician because I’d call voters dumbasses to their faces for believing things that contradict all available evidence, and there’s definitely no votes in that.
But whatever else is true, surely the answer cannot be to just accept lies, go along with them, and hope for the best. That is a guaranteed losing strategy.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/dec/21/children-executed-and-women-raped-in-front-of-their-families-as-m23-militia-unleashes-fresh-terror-on-drc
TDS
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/scranton-finally-turning-biden-officials-demand-removal-name/
https://nypost.com/2024/12/18/media/cnn-ratings-sink-to-all-time-low-in-vital-demographic-for-advertisers-as-left-leaning-networks-plummet-after-trump-win/
Trump is now implying the US wants the Panama Canal back. Are there any countries that Trump isn’t threatening, or are they ALL screwing us, the dirty foreign bastards?
The main point of Krugman's article was that the Michigan survey one month before the election found deep dissatisfaction in the state of the economy and now, when nothing in the economy has changed, it finds a rosy outlook, meaning that all of the whining over the fucking economy was partisan bullshit.
So Elon has done bought himself a Felon and so now thinks he owns the fucking country. He should be the first damn immigrant shipped out in the deportation pogroms.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
“The main point of Krugman's article was that the Michigan survey one month before the election found deep dissatisfaction in the state of the economy and now, when nothing in the economy has changed, it finds a rosy outlook, meaning that all of the whining over the fucking economy was partisan bullshit.”
I mean, I don’t think it was partisan bullshit in the sense of voters lying to pollsters about what they truly believe about the economy.
I think it was partisan bullshit in the sense that voters have had their perceptions warped by Republican lies, such that, earlier, they genuinely accepted that the economy was bad because Trump said so, but it has suddenly become good because Trump now says that is true (because he’s been elected). This is the nature of the army of Trumpbots, who depressingly seem to believe whatever they are commanded to believe.
Also, I don’t like all the dismissal of “economic anxiety” by liberals as some sort of false explanation for why working-class white folks vote for Trump. Many working-class whites are, in fact, struggling, but the problem is that they don’t appear able to understand why they are struggling. They don’t connect the dots between governmental economic policies and their own circumstances, and they are being encouraged to blame scapegoats (such as immigrants) instead.
Krugman's point was that those same struggling voters reported that the economy was humming right along during previous times when it was worse, then said it was in the shitter while Biden was saving it (and he really did a miraculous job of saving it without causing a recession) then all of the sudden Fergus wins the election and it's great again.
It's a story about propaganda, not the actual economy, which does heavily favor the wealthy.
And those economically anxious voters never seem to notice the massive gains in blue collar manufacturing jobs that Biden oversaw, so I stick to my contention that "economic anxiety" is a bullshit partisan grift used mostly as an excuse for the overt racism that actually drove the election. Every fucking one of them had access to the same internet that I do and thus were only a few clicks away from the goddamn truth about the economy and everything else. Economic anxiety was their chosen excuse to be the horrible citizens that they actually are, and for the most part it's a damn lie. I'm supporting two adult humans and a cat in California on SSDI, so I don't really want to hear the whining of these fucks.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
“Every fucking one of them had access to the same internet that I do and thus were only a few clicks away from the goddamn truth about the economy and everything else. Economic anxiety was their chosen excuse to be the horrible citizens that they actually are, and for the most part it's a damn lie. I'm supporting two adult humans and a cat in California on SSDI, so I don't really want to hear the whining of these fucks.”
I agree with the sentiment, at least. I can’t sympathize much with these people, since I’m too angry at them for voting for destructive things. But I do think it is necessary to understand them, which requires acknowledging that anger at the lack of economic mobility in this country is a part of their motivation, even if they are totally wrong about the causes of that lack of economic mobility.
It’s important to distinguish what I mean by “understanding” them, though. I never, ever want to read another editorial urging urban liberals to venture forth to Real America and listen to Real Americans and understand their very legitimate concerns. These articles are basically making the “bothsides” argument that Trump voters have some valid points and the Democrats need to “understand” those points and move to the center to accommodate them, et cetera.
That’s all bullshit. Trump voters are straight-up wrong, and their legitimate concerns are not remotely legitimate. They have no valid points. So the only thing I am interested in understanding is why they are so wrong. How are they getting so brainwashed, and how do we drag them back out of the Dark Ages before they ruin the country for all of us?
"Trump voters are straight-up wrong, and their legitimate concerns are not remotely legitimate. They have no valid points. So the only thing I am interested in understanding is why they are so wrong. How are they getting so brainwashed, and how do we drag them back out of the Dark Ages before they ruin the country for all of us?"
A real good placde to start is to somehow abolish Fox News, and their firehose lies and misinformation. But there's no way to do that that I know about. I've already written to sponsors about how I'm boycotting whatever they're selling. But that's a drop in the ocean.
Not satisfied with taunting Panama over taking back the Panama Canal, Trump also decided to flip the bird to Native Americans by promising to switch the name of Denali in Alaska back to Mount McKinley.
The dude’s not even president yet, and his anti-foreigner, anti-woke trolling is already exhausting. Can’t believe we’re doing this all over again.
I was never paid more than $12.50/hr over the table in the 32 years I worked before my stroke took me out of the workforce, and I am white, straight and male, so I do understand the feeling that you're being left behind by an increasingly affluent country. I just never gave a rat's ass. If I thought I didn't have enough money, I just tried to work more and earn more. That strategy was my undoing, though, as it was after three months of 10 to 13 hour shifts that started at midnight that I woke up one evening unable to roll over because I'd had a stroke.
I never felt that I lacked opportunity and always felt for those who did for lack of the straight white maleness I was born with.
In short, my feelings about the folks complaining about the supposed shitty economy come from holding myself to account for my situation. Once when I was on the edge of homelessness a retired friend of mine tried to straighten out my attitude. He said: "Listen, know it's hard out there, but I'm a 64 year old one eyed Portagee and right now I could pick up a chainsaw and set off on foot and I'd have work before lunch." That made it kinda hard to feel sorry for myself about my employment situation, and two weeks later I got a job driving a delivery truck.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
I hope the cats OK. Seriously, listen to yourself Doug. You sound like you might have another stroke.
LOL, sure it's all about FOX news. FYI, a growing number of people get their information from other sources. The media no longer has any respect from average voters. Except for people like you and Doug, who will suck up whatever MSNBC has to regurgitate.
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