I was sitting in McCormick & Schmick's, a very fine seafood restaurant in Philly a couple of days ago, and I was trying to talk shop with a fellow attorney over lunch. I tried to give him my undivided, but I couldn't. Why? Because there was a very fine Nubian in a business suit across the room distracting me.
It's easy to get distracted these days. For instance, we can get distracted by the cell phone while we are trying to drive. Parents can get distracted by their children while they are trying to talk on the phone; loud people can distract us all in public; and an attractive Nubian can distract us damn near anywhere.
Still, the folks down in Mississippi have taken this distraction thing to a whole different level. You all know the story by now: .A young lady who happens to be Gay has created a stir at her -very red state- school, all because she wants to go the prom with her partner in a tuxedo. This being northern Mississippi, the folks at the school decided to cancel the prom because they say it would be distraction. I mean I know the folks in Mississippi don't take to women wearing tuxedos too well, but why do I get the feeling that this isn't about the tuxedo?
"The Itawamba County school district's policy requires that senior prom dates be of the opposite sex. The American Civil Liberties Union of Mississippi had given the district until Wednesday to change that policy and allow 18-year-old Constance McMillen to escort her girlfriend, who is also a student, to the dance on April 2.
Instead, the school board met and issued a statement announcing it wouldn't host the event at Itawamba County Agricultural High School in Fulton, "due to the distractions to the educational process caused by recent events."
There is that word distraction again. "Due to the distractions of the educational process"Yes, god forbid we cause a distraction at that most educational of high school events; the prom. I mean I can just imagine if Lark Voorhies had showed up at my senior prom in a LBD. Now that would have been a distraction for your ass. Field, are you going to dance or what? Ahhm, sorry date, I am a bit distracted. I can't stop looking at Lark across the room. How dare she show up here like that?
Anyway, I see that those pesky ACLU folks are getting involved. Maybe they will help us work out this little distraction thing.
Constance, look at the bright side: you have graduated high school and you are emancipated. You can finally move away from Mississippi.
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Those good ole religious folks just don't want this lifestyle pushed down their throats you know.
ditto!
i love this!
it is FINALLY the perfect example of how gays suffer in many ways precisely as blacks do!
black gaybashers cannot deny now that gay is indeed the new black as this is exactly like the integrated proms canceled in the VERY SAME state for the VERY SAME reasons!
hate is hate!!!
interracial couples were dogged just like these 2 lesbians!!!
holy bigoted fools lie about ham and racism in the bible just as they lie about gays!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de1b1fbc860d.html
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/bible-top-10---gaybashing-myths-about-homosexuality.html
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/homosexual-lovers-in-the-bible-ruth-naomi---david-jonathan.html
I'm surprised you didn't write a post on Stern & his incredibly insensitive comments on Gabourey Sidibe. I see you've highlighted him in the side bar but he deserves so much more.
And yes, life is a series of distractions these days. it's unbelievable we ever finnish anything.
"And yes, life is a series of distractions these days. it's unbelievable we ever finish anything."-California Girl
LOL!
Ain't that the truth. As far as the MS/prom story, instead of saying the ones in question aren't allowed to attend, they're going to cancel the whole shindig...LMAO! I'm sure that's on par with TX and their "version" of a school textbook...SMH!
cg:
it is not just howard
many posters herein and black bloggers all over the net are wilding on her
it is just open season on all black women now
gabby is just the tip of the abusive rabid iceberg
ie:
http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/03/race-and-romance-an-uneven-playing-field-for-black-women/
tragic!
"Constance, look at the bright side: you have graduated high school and you are emancipated. You can finally move away from Mississippi."
Well, if they are White, they will be emancipated like white women are being emancipated.
But if they are Black, well-get back! You ain't never gonna be emancipated. The straight Blacks, who are still waiting to be emancipated themselves, will see to that. The only way their homo asses will EVER be emancipated in the BC is in church...maybe. That is, if you can change your ways.
"Ain't that the truth. As far as the MS/prom story, instead of saying the ones in question aren't allowed to attend, they're going to cancel the whole shindig..."
ch555x, oh no, they couldn't do that. That would make them bigots. They couldn't just single out this young lady and her date. They are too smart for that.(At least they think they are) They would just rather call the whole thing a "distraction" and cancel the entire prom.
Cali Girl, I thought about blogging more about Gaby, but then AB and others had a very good discussion about it in one of the comments section.
I thought you might throw this out there. This is why many of the tea baggers want to get back to the idea of States Rights because then they can regulate everything.
Amazing, amazing stuff. How are they distracting from the educational process the prom is after school and after school is over with.
But they could mean that it may distract folks from their narrow mindedness. I think they are afraid of the kids who will see the couple and go okay I guess that's cool.
AB I don't if any ism can replace the damage of racism but I definitely feel you. And the state-ment below is undeniable.
"holy bigoted fools lie about ham and racism in the bible just as they lie about gays!!!ent below is undeniable."
cept folks who said things like this aren't holy.
assnons fight for the spaces on the bottom...because they are bottom feeders.
i am fed up with fools who make oppressions a contest only to divide those who oppressed...shame!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/racism-v-homohatred---civil-rights-eddie-murphy-and-the-other-niers-4.html
Homosexuals were never enslaved in America. Yet, we are STILL lynched daily in America. Homosexuals were never legally denied the right to vote. Yet, we are STILL legally denied the right to marry. Homosexuals were never legally considered to be subhuman, as blacks were. Yet, we are STILL denied our divinity, and blasphemously told that God hates us, by preacher pimps and their “holy” sheeple each day…
mell:
i never met anyone who ever claimed anything could replace or equal racism...those are just more lies that homohaters tell on gays they can never quote!!
Comparisons are not synonymous with equations. No fool would ever dare to EQUATE homophobia with racism in America. But, glaring similarities abound!!! Everywhere, everyday, homosexuals are refused services in public places, stalked, beaten, arrested, murdered, raped, verbally harassed, fired, evicted, legally discriminated against, rejected, slandered, libeled, scapegoated, and generally tortured, simply because they are homosexual.
Let me guess. You are a GED graduate, right?"
Not sure i would make fun with a statement like this FN, look at the stats on black males and you will realize how few of them actually get a GED in life...don't use jokes that truly point out how fucked up black men are.
By LEONARD PITTS JR.
lpitts@miamiherald.com
Sometimes, progress carries an asterisk.
That's as good a summary as any of a sad irony from last week's historic election. You will recall one of the major storylines of that day was the fact that, in helping make Barack Obama the nation's first black president, African Americans struck a blow against a history that has taught us all too well how it feels to be demeaned and denied. Unfortunately, while they were striking that blow, some black folks chose to demean and deny someone else.
Last week, you see, California voters passed an initiative denying recognition to same-sex marriages. This overturned an earlier ruling from the state Supreme Court legalizing those unions. The vote was hardly a surprise; surely there is nothing in politics easier than to rouse a majority of voters against the ''threat'' of gay people being treated like people.
But African Americans were crucial to the passage of the bill, supporting it by a margin of better than two to one. To anyone familiar with the deep strain of social conservatism that runs through the black electorate, this is not surprising either. It is, however, starkly disappointing. Moreover, it leaves me wondering for the umpteenth time how people who have known so much of oppression can turn around and oppress.
Yes, I know. I can hear some black folk yelling at me from here, wanting me to know it's not the same, what gays have gone through and what black people did, wanting me to know they acted from sound principles and strong values. It is justification and rationalization, and I've heard it all before. I wish they would explain to me how they can, with a straight face, use arguments against gay people that were first tested and perfected against us.
When, for instance, they use an obscure passage from the Bible to claim God has ordained the mistreatment of gays, don't they hear an echo of white people using that Bible to claim God ordained the mistreatment of blacks?
When they rail against homosexuality as ''unnatural,'' don't they remember when that word was used to describe abolition, interracial marriage and school integration?
When they say they'd have no trouble with gay people if they would just stop ''flaunting'' their sexuality, doesn't it bring to mind all those good ol' boys who said they had no problem with ''Nigras'' so long as they stayed in their place?
No, the black experience and the gay experience are not equivalent. Gay people were not the victims of mass kidnap or mass enslavement.
No war was required to strike the shackles from their limbs.
But that's not the same as saying blacks and gays have nothing in common. On the contrary, gay people, like black people, know what it's like to be left out, lied about, scapegoated, discriminated against, held up, beat down, denied a job, a loan or a life. And, too, they know how it feels to sit there and watch other people vote upon your very humanity, just as if those other people had a right. So beg pardon, but black people should know better. I feel the same when Jews are racist, or gays anti-Semitic. Those who bear scars from intolerance should be the last to practice it.
Sadly, we are sometimes the first. That tells you something about how seductive a thing intolerance is, how difficult it can be to resist the serpent whisper that says it's OK to ridicule and marginalize those people over there because they look funny, or talk funny, worship funny or love funny. So in the end, we struggle with the same imperative as from ages ago: to overcome the crippling legacy of bigotry and injustice. But if last week's vote taught us nothing else, it taught us that persistence plus faith equals change.
And we shall overcome.
______________________________________________________________________
That was published on November 21, 2008 in the Miami Herald.
BTW, fuck anonymous posters.
gaybashing assnons dismiss/ignore the abuses of gays the same way sexist dogs dismiss/ignore abuses of women...and for the same reasons!
assnons are weak ignorant dirty mfs!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/on-jill-nelsons-regal-rage-revolutionary-anger-1.html
I refuse to fight with black men for my space at the bottom of the world. While sisters cry "Let's heal OUR wounds brother!", too many brothers cry "MY wound is BIGGER than yours sister!!!" It is a phallic mantra that rapes our collective revolution. (It is very similar to the homophobic cry that racist/gaybashing blacks aim at activist homosexuals: "OUR discrimination is BIGGER than yours, fag/dyke!!!")
Gender does not protect us from racism. Sexism doubles our burden. Brothers who are oppressed because of their skin oppress us because of our sex organs. We will not be silent as such fascist fallout trickles down upon us!
Macho misogynists love to whine about black women being more employed. While they ignore our lower wages for superior work. They whine about the smaller populations of black men on college campuses, while they ignore sexist professors who give superior grades/degrees to illiterate jocks like O. J. Simpson. Likewise, they ignore the rapid increase of campus date rapes, from fraternity houses to dormitories. They whine about black men in prison, as they ignore the droves of black women in identical cages, giving birth in chains to wards of states, fathered by men who never visit them.
From “Straight, No Chaser”: “The notion that black women's independence is a contributing factor to black male oppression has long been a subtext in the black community, and its political, cultural, and social movements. It is founded on the belief that women inherently have it easier, that we are less threatening and therefore given more leeway by the dominant white culture…
Nationalism required that we do the behind-the-scenes work, keep our mouths shut in public, and in private, happily assume the prone position at the whim of our King, the better to produce more male warriors. Nothing really changed for black women except the rap and the costumes…Men who refused to buy into the white man's system by working as a slave, seemed to have little problem with his woman's enslavement…
Unlike white men, we do not have most of the political power and nearly all of the corporate money. Unlike white women, we are neither the wives nor sisters of the masters of the universe. We have no National Organization for Women or other group with clout to advocate for us. Even though black women do most of the work in our communities, are the mainstay of the strongest organization African Americans have, the black church ...unlike black men, we seldom head churches, are elected to political office, are in leadership…White male politicians demonize me as a welfare cheat, illegitimate baby-making machine, and drain on government programs.
Black men single me out when they need either help or an example of why they are "endangered" or hindered. I am asked to cook the food, stuff the envelopes, open my legs, and keep my mouth shut…”
Field,
Distractions, distractions...they are everywhere...
Even the US military seems to have trouble with the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.
Just today I read an AP story about an Air Force Sgt. Jene Newsome who has lost her career due to a local Police Force outing her. The ACLU has already filed a suit against the S. Dak. Police Dept.
And then of course, the Major who lost her job after 19 years has been made into a case for the 9th Circuit Court which will require the DOD to re write all their laws regarding DADT Policy...
Google Air Force Major Witt for more info.
so if blacks voted 2/1 to ban same sex marriage, I wonder then if places like jamaica just might be more homophobic as AB pointed out? ?????????.
anon (who does not want to be fucked)
trapped in sc
black homohaters DID black out prop 8
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/prop-8-was-blacked-out-by-h8.html
just as they helped gwb win 8 yrs in ofc
http://www.amazon.com/Tempting-Faith-Inside-Political-Seduction/dp/0743287134/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1267374022&sr=8-1
lp is dead wrong
splitting hairs over stats will not change how racists pimp black gaybashers daily in cali and all over the globe!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de1c0817860d.html\
Most black churches exiled gays, and most black people bashed gays LONG before blacks sabotaged Prop 8, irrespective of any hair splitting over voter statistics...
The white media have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the evil that black gaybashers do. From black gay celebrities closeted with padlocks, to the global black serial killers who lynch black gays daily, to the hate filled sermons that black preachers spew from pulpits everywhere each day, blacks continue to PROVE that they are indeed the very worst gaybashers in the world!!!
I know this is true! I have been an out lesbian media celebrity deep in the heart of the grossly misnomered “bible belt” since 1982. Hypochristians have given me hell publicly for decades. While many deluded and detached pundits are waxing philosophically from their progressive enclaves, I am still battling rabid black homohaters solo, on the front lines in the most hostile red states!!!
Our silence and your denial will never protect us!
The rabid hatred that most blacks harbor for homosexuals goes far deeper than the blackout of Prop 8 in California, or the collaborative theft of elections by George W. Bush and the ignorant, hypochristian, black church preachers he pimped. The murderous, intense, brutal, and increasingly hot hatred that blacks unleash upon homosexuals infects every facet of black life, from Uganda, to Jamaica, to Brooklyn...
The homosexual agenda hurts itself by forcing their way of life on the majority. I’d be willing to bet most of the straight kids wouldn’t care if Constance went with her girl or not. But now, she has ruined one of the pillars of the high school experience. It’s like these gay-pride parades. Instead of having a parade with floats that tastefully is dedicated to showing homosexuality is compatible in a straight world, they are orgy-fests with naked men grabbing on each other and worse. It is meant to shock…and it does. They want to be extravagant and make the rest of us accept it. But it makes heterosexuals not want to have anything to do with homosexuals.
In the Mississippi prom issue, Constance won the battle but lost the war. Either way, she is not going to the prom. Now she has a thousand students who hate her guts instead of a thousand kids who probably didn’t even know who she is! Thanks Constance and the ACLU, you have won nothing
AB, I think you got it a little wrong.
I support you.
Wash, rise, repeat.
anon:
ditto
as i said
jamaica is the ONLY entire country boycotted by gays...even uganda is NOT!
i love fn
but we disagree on this one
4ever
http://www.queerty.com/world-brief-jamaica-faces-gay-boycott-20090414/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIylutg2r0w&feature=related
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de11b724860d.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaqWZ3XG7fE
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/homohatred-in-reggae-music-where-is-the-one-love.html
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/unholy-ugliness-in-uganda-american-racists-pimp-homohating-africans.html
The homosexual agenda hurts itself by forcing their way of life on the majority.
By default the het way of life is forced DAILY on everyone. Any time you walk hand in hand with a lover in public, kiss, smile longingly, purchase a car or house or anything together etc.
Yet no one complains that we have to endure this each day! As a queer, it's pushed down my throat day in an day out, every tv show i watch shows het couples interacting, etc. I cannot get away with it.
I don't mind straights, as long as they act gay in public.
And no ignorant ass it's not "Constance's fault" in any way shape or form.
if you are black...shame on you. Because the same things would have been said about you 50-100 years ago...un natural etc. EAch year in my large university town there is a Big African American party...blacks jam rap music all night long and drive around with saggin pants etc.....pushing their lifestyle on whites ? is that the same thing?
Fucking idiot.
AB, FN could learn a little from you. Your are gay, he's not. It's like a white person saying racism doesn't exist.
assnons force their lives on gays.
assnons are men like fred phelps who even tortures gays' kin at funerals.
there are no gay fred phelps/gay coke ads/gay mcdonald's ads etc.
assnons are blinded by brazen hypocrisy
ie
het sex sells all!!!!
assnons are liars!!!
FOR THE STRAIGHT FOLKS WHO DON'T MIND GAYS BUT WISH THEY WEREN'T SO BLATANT
by Pat Parker
You know, some people got a lot of nerve.
Sometimes I don't believe the things I see and hear.
Have you met the woman who's shocked by two women kissing and, in the same breath, tells you she is pregnant?
But gays, shouldn't be so blatant.
Or this straight couple sits next to you in a movie and you can't hear the dialogue because of the sound effects?
But gays shouldn't be so blatant.
And the woman in your office who spends an entire lunch hour talking about her new bikini drawers and how much her husband likes them?
But gays shouldn't be so blatant.
Or the "hip" chick in your class rattling like a mile a minute, while you're trying to get stoned in the john, about the camping trip she took with her musician boyfriend?
But gays shouldn't be so blatant.
You go into a public bathroom and all over the walls there's "John loves Mary", "Janice digs Richard", "Pepe loves Delores", etc., etc.
But gays shouldn't be so blatant.
Or you go to an amusement park and there's a tunnel of love with pictures of straights painted on the front and grinning couples are coming in and out?
But gays shouldn't be so blatant.
Fact is, blatant heterosexuals are all over the place.
Supermarkets, movies, on your job, in church, in books, on television every day and night, every place--even in gay bars--and they want gay men and woman to go and hide in the closet.
So to you straight folks I say, "Sure, I'll go if you go too. But, I'm polite so, after you."
"By default the het way of life is forced DAILY on everyone"
Heterosexulaity is NORMAL. Only a deviant would rage against normalcy.
You chose an alternative lifestyle, no grow up and live with the consequences.
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/CRAZY FUCKING LESBIAN RANT, part 3,912.html
assnons lie about blatant het sex everywhere!!!..radio/tv/etc...
shame!!!
Like all bigots, gayabashers are blind. They are rabidly heterosexist. They are solely and vulgarly obsessed with gay sex. They absolutely ignore gay love.
Homohaters are pathological liars. They pretend that gender dictates quality parenting. Only genderless character truly does. They pretend that ideal families are like nuclear sitcom families. Most actors on those same shows were reared by single parents, divorced parents, and blended families.
Homohaters pretend that all gays are pedophiles.Most pedophiles are legally married heterosexual men who rape their own daughters and nieces. Most children are safer with the gay couple next door than their own heterosexual uncle.
In real lives in the real world, God creates homosexuals in every living species every day. We are who we are born to be. We thrive on the insanity of the arrogant ignorance of homohaters. Their incessantly stupid questions become more moronic each day. The timeless priceless quiz below demonstrates that expertly. Enjoy!
PLEASE GIVE THIS QUIZ TO EVERY GAYBASHER YOU KNOW!
IT MAY HELP THEM SEE HOW IGNORANT THEIR HOMOHATING LIES ARE...
IT MAY HELP THEM COMPREHEND THE INSANITY OF THEIR MORONIC QUESTIONS ABOUT GAYS!
TESTING TRUTH {Created by Martin Rochlin, Ph.D., 1977}:
1. When and how did you first decide you were a heterosexual?
2. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a phase you may grow out of?
3. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?
4. Isn’t it possible that all you need is a good Gay lover?
5. Heterosexuals have histories of failures in Gay relationships. Do you think you may have turned to heterosexuality out of fear of rejection?
6. If you’ve never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know you wouldn’t prefer that?
7. If heterosexuality is normal, why are a disproportionate number of mental patients heterosexual?
8. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?
9. Your heterosexuality doesn’t offend me as long as you don’t try to force it on me. Why do you people feel compelled to seduce others into your sexual orientation?
10. If you choose to nurture children, would you want them to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they would face?
11. The great majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you really consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?
12. Why do you insist on being so obvious, and making a public spectacle of your heterosexuality? Can’t you just be what you are and keep it quiet?
13. How can you ever hope to become a whole person if you limit yourself to a compulsive, exclusive heterosexual object choice and remain unwilling to explore and develop your normal, natural, healthy, God-given homosexual potential?
14. Heterosexuals are noted for assigning themselves and each other to narrowly restricted, stereotyped sex-roles. Why do you cling to such unhealthy role-playing?
15. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
16. With all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?
17. How could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual, considering the menace of overpopulation?
18. There seem to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed with which you might be able to change if you really want to. Have you considered aversion therapy?
19. Do heterosexuals hate and/or distrust others of their own sex? Is that what makes them heterosexual?
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/testing-hypocrisy-a-quiz-for-homohaters.html
I guess you would have to define normal. Heterosexuality is found in on a handful of species on the entire fucking planet.
Normalcy = marrying only the same skin color.
Normalcy = separate drinking fountains
Normalcy = White
right? I hope you are not a deviant.
I don't believe you are black assnon, you know the pain of non-equality.
so assnon
you are saying that what makes up the majority is what is normal?
assnons are blatant liars
homosexuality is a NORMALCY in every living spoecies!!!
only abnormal human assnons gaybash though!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/the-science-of-sexuality.html
Most pseudo-christians have never read/understood the bibles that they use exclusively as primers for hatred. Likewise, they have never researched sexuality or owned a library card. If they ever become educated, they will discover the following.
-Human sexuality is not black or white. There are droves of gray areas. All human males begin as females in the womb. Many humans are born with male genitalia and female internal organs, and vice versa. Many humans reach puberty or have menstrual periods before age six. Many humans are born with ambiguous or dual genitalia. (Research pediatric surgery, hypothalamus gland studies, precocious puberty, homosexuality in siblings, hermaphrodites, sexual arousal etc.)
-The film “Jurassic Park” is based on ACTUAL scientific study. Millions of viewers missed the actual bisexual frog used to clone all those female dinosaurs. These exclusively female dinosaurs bred.
-Many animals can change their sex at will. Many animals are bisexual. Many male animals become pregnant. Many animals have multiple sex organs. When such animals mate, both parties are impregnated simultaneously. (Research oysters, frogs, sea lions, cardinal fish, sea horses, river bullhead fish, mouth brooder fish, angler fish, lyre-tail coral fish, ten-spiked stickleback fish, orange sea perch, slipper limpets, roman snails, banana slugs, ravens, emperor penguins etc.)
-Many animals are homosexual. Many homosexually mate for life. (Research dolphins, monkeys, pigeons, dogs, cats, graylag geese, pink flamingoes etc.)
-There are many all female animal societies. Many of them reproduce females exclusively, by parthenogenesis. Many of them have sex for pleasure with fellow females. Many animals strictly segregate themselves by gender. (Research desert grasstail lizards, lions,whiptail lizards, water snails, rare birds, elephants, bees, ants, and spiders etc.)
-There are even homosexual plants. (Research Jack-in-the-Pulpit etc.)
For more information on the science of sexuality, read:
Jocelyn Elders M. D. by Dr. Jocelyn Elders
Lesbians Lists by Dell Richards
The Gay Book of Lists by Leigh Rutledge
Queer Science by Simon Levay
Human Sexuality by Vern Bullough
ETC….
We homosexuals are who we are born to be, in EVERY species!!! God creates us and always will. Unlike ignorance and blasphemy, life reigns supreme, in all its wonder and splendor.
HOMOSEXUALITY IS UNIVERSALLY NATURAL!!!!
Most religious gaybashers have never read or studied their bibles. It follows that they have also never studied the science of any sexuality. Biblical scholars know that the bible says absolutely nothing about hating all homosexual couples or gay marriage. Scientific scholars know that homosexuals are born into every single living species, humans included.
The illiterate, hatemongering, “holy” hypocrites, who pretend that God hates homosexuals just because they hate homosexuals, must continue to blatantly ignore the scientific fact that homosexuality is natural in many species of animals. If these bigoted fools ever admit that animals are born gay, then they must admit the following also:
HOMOSEXUAL ANIMALS ARE NATURAL. SO, HOMOSEXUAL HUMANS ARE NATURAL TOO.
GOD CREATES GAY ANIMALS. SO, GOD CREATES GAY HUMANS TOO.
ANIMALS DO NOT CHOOSE TO BE GAY. SO, HUMANS DO NOT CHOOSE TO BE GAY EITHER.
GAY ANIMALS HAVE ALWAYS EXISTED AND THEIR SPECIES ARE NOT EXTINCT. SO, HOMOSEXUAL HUMANS WILL NOT LEAD TO HUMAN EXTINCTION.
assnons lie!!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/4962394/Blue-Ducks-likely-to-die-out-in-UK-after-male-birds-get-together.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6066606.stm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/5550488/Homosexual-behaviour-widespread-in-animals-according-to-new-study.html
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/aroundtheworld/2009/06/gay-animals-may-help-species-survive-scientists-claim/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/4962394/Blue-Ducks-likely-to-die-out-in-UK-after-male-birds-get-together.html
http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-04/gay-elephant-just-tip-iceberg
http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/the_gay_animal_kingdom/
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=homosexual+animals&x=0&y=0
AND assnon homohater, even if we "chose to be gay" there would not be anything wrong with that and we would deserve EQUAL rights even if it were a cognizant choice.
Anon dumbass: Heterosexulity is of course found in all non-extinct species.
Normal isn't defining who you are by what you do with your genitals. Normal isn't pretending you are something you are not and then inisisting everyone validate your illusion.
Homosexulaity is a behavior.
Race is an inherited trait.
There is no equivalency.
So you are saying one's behavior is less valid than one's inherited trait? So religion is a behavior, and those who choose to worship should be able to do so without damnation and hatred being spewed upon them....right?
Dumb ass, sagging pants is a behavior.
Listening to rap music is a behavior.
So you are saying these are reasons we can treat others badly?
assnons are trying to clone themselves when they masturbate????
sex is an act
sexuality is an emotional id
u can be a 100 yr old virgin and still be lesbian or gay fool!!!!
you can be a legally wed father/mother of 10 and still be gay!
AB got distracted by a cucumber!
anon:
amen!!!
no one ever calls het sex a MERE behavior/lifestyle
golfing is a lifestyle
blogging is a lifestyle
being a gd gaybashing fool is a lifestyle
your sexual id is your life!
assnons have lower IQ's than cukes!
breeders always go to sex...it's funny when we think about hets, it's never about their sex lives...I wish that were returned.
i would rather cuddle with a cuke any day that a deadbeat assnon.
"your sexual id is your life!"
Not mine. It is only part of who I am. To people like you, it is an obsession, so much so that it makes me think it is a mental disorder.
and if that cuke would cook my ass breakfast, hell I would marry it!
retard, you are confusing sexual id with SEX
have you learned nothing tonight?
assnons are trifling hypochristians holy haters and stupid illiterate sinners!!!!!
i am real sick of het whores filled with birth control/stockpiling condoms and covered with tattoos and eating shrimp..... talking shit to me about procreation and biblical laws
Illiterate gaybashers love to cherry pick sins from their unread bibles as they sinfully judge all homosexuals. They love to pretend to be angelic as they curse all homosexuals as demons. They love to bash gay marriage as they blatantly ignore all biblical laws for heterosexual marriage. They are vulgarly obsessed with gay sex as they absolutely ignore all gay love. They love to pretend that sex is only for procreation, as they inhale birth control pills and stock condoms in bulk, while pretending that only gays have sex expressly for pleasure. They love to pretend that quoting lies by moronic pastors is a scholarly substitute for actual biblical study.
God is love. Authentic Christians do not hate, torment, reject and curse gays! They do not deny gays any human right to live, love, work and marry. Only hypocristians harass and murder homosexuals globally. Only pseudo Christians demonically pretend that hating gays is a godly value.
Never allow anyone to demand that you do anything that they will not do themselves!!! Never allow any buybull toting gaybasher to force you to live by biblical laws until they do the very same! Demand that they live by the following biblical laws before they dare to dictate any biblical laws to homosexuals!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/biblical-laws-for-gaybashing-cherry-pickers.html
you are confusing sexual ID with SEX idiot.
Furthermore, if you believe that is true and it is a mental disorder, you are saying it's okay to discriminate and hate people with mental disorders?
Jesus, Mary and Cher...you are a hot mess.
"and if that cuke would cook my ass breakfast, hell I would marry it!"
And, unlike AB, at least it would shut the fuck up once in a while!
assnons pretend that gays are ONLY sexual creatures as theie own sex is just a PT of them!!!
assnons are lying assed hypocrites!!!
"are saying it's okay to discriminate and hate people with mental disorders? "
No, but I want to put some distance between them and me.
assnons are always talking with less to say than a cuke!
assnons know they can never shut me up!!!!
jump and die trying to mf!!!
i will slice your ass like a cuke!
This is my biggest bone of contention with our community...hating hypocrites.
assnons want gays as close as possible...thay is why they gaybash all day.. at appear to be "distant" when they are really down low!!!!
ALL gaybashing assons are gay!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01240bae543b860e.html
They feel no passion in their lives AB, a life with out passion is void. Sad really.
anon:
ditto!!!
and gaybashing assnon breeders are barely fertile/impotent etc!
we are not talking about distance persay, we are talking about discrimination fool
"This is my biggest bone of contention with our community...hating hypocrites."
Who hates more than AB? That woman is a seething mess of spite and bile. She is absolutely desperate to make the world conform to her weirdness.
anon:
ditto!
happy hot hets do not have time to bash gays...they are too busy with their own sex/love!!!
all those obsessed with gays are gay...all of them!!!
gayabshing assnons distance themselves from opppression because they are the oppressors!
shady cowardly hiding mfs!!!
I agree...some of my fave people are secure hets. The rest are just haters looking for bj in an alley.
I will never understand how a fellow black person could ever discriminate gay folks.
I bet homohaters think about gay sex more than gays think about gay sex.
anons:
ditto
the same way that the poles/kapos and dl jews were the worse nazis...even inside camps!
those on the bottom are the most cruel to PEERS...shame!
It is an undeniable and historically proven fact that those who are oppressed often become the cruelest oppressors. The United States were founded by slave masters who wanted to be free from British rule, even as they simultaneously stole, enslaved, dehumanized, and forcibly ruled captive Africans for centuries. As fellow hostages on plantations, mulattos were often the most rabid overseers and treacherous house niggers, and often crueler than many white slave masters. In Nazi death camps, Jewish and Polish SS officers who passed as Germans were far more brutal than their actual German Nazi peers. During America’s genocide against Native Americans, Native American scouts and African-American Buffalo soldiers legendarily assisted white men as they robbed and slaughtered red, brown, and black people who looked like them. White gays are usually more blatantly racist than any of their racist heterosexual peers, especially those who control gay media. Closeted gays and gays who feign at being "healed heterosexuals" gaybash more rabidly than any homophobic or sexually bigoted heterosexual...
Murderous gaybashers exist and are religiously sanctioned in every human race. Yet, I remain convinced that racism and sexism combine to create a uniquely hot hatred of homosexuals within most black gaybashers globally. I have penned many columns, hosted countless talk radio shows, and engaged in heated debates with diverse friends on the subject of black gaybashers for decades. I have elaborated ad infinitum about precisely how racism and sexism combine and degenerate too many black men who regard themselves exclusively as life support systems for penises, and too many black women who regard themselves exclusively as concubines/breeders for these aforementioned black macho men.
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/eulogy-for-sakia-gunn---an-eternal-warrior-sista-1.html
"we are not talking about distance persay, we are talking about discrimination fool"
There is legitimate, rational discrimination, and then there is illegitimate, irrational discrimination.
Discrimination based on race is irrational. Discrimination based on behaviors can be legitimate. If you decide not to hire someone just because he is white, that is stupid. If decide not to hire him as a school bus driver when he has three prior convicitons of child molestation, that is legitimate discrimination. Get it?
enough of this mess for tonight. not a single hater made a statement that is worthy of even thinking about. just a couple stupid statements with no depth or breadth...usual.
Later AB, keep slaying girl!
AB, "Homosexuals were never legally considered to be subhuman, as blacks were. Yet, we are STILL denied our divinity, and blasphemously told that God hates us, by preacher pimps and their “holy” sheeple each day…"
You must be kidding. Black Homosexuals were considered subhuman like the rest of Blacks.
you are right about preachers, the church and Bible. So why are you hanging out with a phony like Mell?
you must like to set yourself up to be a sucker..AGAIN! (remember La/Kola/granny/maria and the rest of the gang?) How soon we forget.
And you call us anons stupid? better look in the mirror, girlfriend.
assnon:
do u get that most pedophiles are hets???
do u get that a gay bus driver who has never molested anyone would STILL not be hired????
dead posse assnon:
assnons like to pretend that old ass whippings by me do not just disgrace beaten down all posses herein even more!!!
i think assnon is a memeber of the beaten down posse crying like a bitch assed ghost mauled by lioness me!
assnons are illiterate...with nominal retention and comprehension
u missed what was as clear as glass moron!!!
i was only referring to black history.
please quote me in context
ie
jim crow laws were not for black gays but all blacks
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assnons are clones of kola.
assnons are losers who worship losers!
kola boof is a crazy global liar/ brainwashed bitch:
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123dde971c9860b.html
assnons are brainless just like kola boof!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01240ba4bb77860e.html
i love this film about a gay man tortured by black gaybashing dregs all unfit to shine his shoes
http://www.amazon.com/Holiday-Heart-Ving-Rhames/dp/B00005ALM8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1268538985&sr=8-1
AB, the more you rant, the less sense you make. Your mind is twisted by your twisted life. Until you straighten up, the world will continue to be a confusing place to you. Repent now before it is too late.
classic on kola here
http://southafrica.indymedia.org/news/2006/09/11068.php
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twisted assnons all pretend to be prophets because they are crooked assed buybullbots!!!
assons are pereptually VERY confused.
but they are way more ignorant & illiterate than confused!
anon:
they never do...bon soir!
ab "do u get that most pedophiles are hets???"
No. you lie! everyone knows that pedophiles are mostly, if not all, gay. Do you think the child molesting priests are hets? no, they are gay.
My opinion:
1) Girls taking "girls" to the Prom? NO BIG DEAL. They do it anyway. As I recall girls were dancing with girls most of the time anyway.
2) Gender Norms being violated? (Boys in dresses/ Girls in Tuxs)
NO!!! Leave the politics of "gender norming" elsewhere.
3) Shutting down the entire school prom over a girl wanting to wear a tux? AN OVER REACTION.
4) Mississippi being worse than South Carolina? It depends on which part of SC and which part of MS you speak of.
(Funny how "Self-Hatred" does not extend to the state that one chooses to live)
Anti-heteronormity activists blame heterosexist privilege for the institutional heterosexism directed at homosexuals in our society. By comparison, the anti-racist blames white privilege for the institutional racism directed at people of color in our society, many modern-day feminists are anti-sexists who blame patriarchal privilege for the institutional sexism directed at women in our society, and the extreme environmentalist is an anti-homo-sapiensist who blames human privilege for the institutional homo-sapiensism directed against the planet.
Why is it that the doctrines of one leftist cause can be obtained from another by simply cutting and pasting a few phrases? Because each activist is an anti-capitalist who blames bourgeois privilege for the institutional oppression directed against the proletariat. In American society, the left has decided that our proletariat should include people of color, women, homosexuals, animals, and the environment, while the face of the bourgeoisie is that of a white, capitalist, Christian male. Each leftist identifies with a specific cause, and collectively, they work to bring about a revolution which will usher in our own imitation of the former Soviet Union. Though rarely using the terminology of Marxism outright, they deceptively speak of fairness, equality, and social justice in an effort to frustrate any rational attempt at debate. Those who disagree are labeled racist, sexist, or fascist (even though fascism is a close relative of communism).
The path to a proletariat uprising in the United States involves the transformation or destruction of certain institutions which are deemed to be supportive of our capitalist society. The anti-racist focuses on law enforcement, the feminist wants to emasculate our schools, the gay activist seeks to destroy the institution of marriage, and the environmentalist hopes to severely weaken business. Some institutions are so threatening that they warrant a united attack whose approach depends on the specific leftist cause. For example, consider the institution of Christianity, which must be eliminated because it cannot be allowed to coexist with a godless, communist state. The anti-racist brings the charge of racism, the feminist decries the church's patriarchal hegemony, the environmentalist is offended by its overt homo-sapiensist teachings, and the gay activist feigns persecution resulting from Christianity's homophobic and heterosexist beliefs. As a result, many churches have already been bullied into aligning themselves with a cause that ultimately seeks their destruction.
Things could be worse for the lesbians. they could have been thrown out like two kids in Colorado.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/09/denver-archbishop-chaput-_n_491950.html
Anon 12:49, you take the arguments of deconstructionists and come to a conclusion that is laughable.. this is the 21st century... communism? really? Why does a critique of a system automatically go to communism? Why is your constructs of alternatives so limited that your little box is Capitalism or Communism? Nothing else.
Let me ask you this, why is it that the right wants to point it's finger at the groups listed above in your rant and blame them for the downfall of capitalism, but are silent on the Wall Street Bastards that, through their greed, have done more to destroy the economy of this country in 30 years (when deregulation kicked in) than the left has since the beginning of this country?
Seems to me that you should be far more worried about the CEOs of the banking system and the Wall Street dividend traders destroying capitalism and your weird, Ozzie and Harriet fantasy of how this country works than any athiest,lefty, commie-pinko, lesbian, feminist....
[quote]This is why many of the tea baggers want to get back to the idea of States Rights because then they can regulate everything.[/quote]
Mellaneous - Can I ask you a question before you go to church today?
IF you were told that the term "Tea Bagger" which was adopted by hate-filled leftists as a pejorative against people they disagreed with - WOULD YOU, a Christian man, CONTINUE TO MAKE USE OF THIS TERM?
If you learned that this term relates to oral sex regarding what a person does with the male scrotum - would YOU, a Christian man who sees an array of people gathering politically - most of whom themselves have acted DIGNIFIED - CONTINUE TO USE THIS HATEFUL TERM against them?
How does your complicity with this compare to those who called Black people "coons", etc?
AS A POINT OF REFERENCE - IF THE Tea Party people are FULL OF HATRED then WHY is it that last summer when they held their gathering in Washington DC THE SAME WEEKEND as the "Black Family Reunion"...............the ONLY BLACK PEOPLE KILLED in Metro DC that weekend were NOT killed from A BEATING by a "Racist Tea Bagger" but instead 2 were shot by a STREET PIRATE ATTACK? An attack that would have happened even if there was no Tea Party.
So Mellaneous - let's pretend that the Tea Party IS full of hatred. Does this give YOU cover for your HATRED?
Break out the scripture to define your acts?
"It's easy to get distracted these days. For instance, we can get distracted by the cell phone while we are trying to drive."
The cell phone is the biggest distracter ever invented. Whether sitting, walking, driving, or conversing with another human being, the cell phone continually distracts. It interrupts and sabotages one’s undivided attention as though time spent with the person deserving the attention is not that important.
Attention span of people today is short. The the ability to concentrate, to listen, spend quality time with undivided attention is rare.
Alicia Banks:
You compared the denial of the "Right To Vote" with the inability of two same sex individuals marry? Even saying that it is akin to "Lynching"?
I am struggling to understand this reasoning. It doesn't stand to reason.
If ANYONE has their rights violated by a physical assault or murder - I will be the first one in line going after the assailant. I don't care WHAT the motivating factor is. If it was not self-defense they are to be punished.
At the same time I REJECT "Hate Crimes Laws". This is the case for racial hate, gender hate. Whatever 'thought crime' anyone can craft. These boutique laws merely create "protected classes" and punitive judiciary action. It is stunning to see the local Civil Rights Actor-vists that normally attempt to get CRIMINALS OUT OF JAIL all of a sudden wanting to throw people IN JAIL and tossing away the key when a criminal violates one of the "hate crime laws" meaningful to them.
THIS IS WHY a Black woman beaten in front of a 'Cracker Barrel' by a White man can trigger 4 days of protests for the television cameras yet 2 WEEKS PRIOR 2 Black mothers shot in the head EXECUTION STYLE after being forced to strip got a whimper from this same group despite being murdered just a few exits up the interstate from the Cracker Barrel.
Alicia Banks - SOCIETAL ORDER and GENDER ROLES are key to any society. One of the underlying difference between ME and many of my ideological adversaries on this blog is that THEY see themselves as advocates for maximum LIBERTY while I note that in this charge - THEY are not going to be around accepting full responsibility for all of the unintended societal impact that their claim that "THEY NEVER DISCRIMINATED AGAINST ANYONE" will bring forth.
My personal view is one of tolerance for that which two consenting adults wish to do. At the same time I am a staunch defender of traditional societal institutions. Though I believe that marriage is between one man and one woman with regard to the Judeo-Christan marriage - I WILL NOT BE AMONG THE CROWD THROWING ROCKS THROUGH THE WINDOW OF A MARRIED GAY COUPLE if this was legally adopted. Instead I would go against the terrorists.
To clarify - I am AGAINST the ridiculous responses as seen by this school in question. I do agree that some ignorant people treat gays as if they have a communicable disease.
At the same time those who advocate for radical societal change have their own track record of outrageous behavior.
Ultimately THIS SOCIETY has to make choices regarding what is on its list of "permissiveness". They also must ACCEPT the consequences - good and bad that result.
My problem is that many of those who seek to dismantle the foundations of the Judeo-Christian tenants too often seek to have GOVERNMENT INTRUSION called in to fill the void. Those who were once ATTACKED in the absence of government are prone to use the GOVERNMENT as their attacker against anyone who disagrees with them.
[quote]are silent on the Wall Street Bastards that, through their greed, have done more to destroy the economy of this country in 30 years (when deregulation kicked in) than the left has since the beginning of this country?[/quote]
Jody:
I would love to see you find an economist with credibility support your claim.
Look at DETROIT.
For you - the DEPARTURE of the Big 3 from Detroit is what caused the city to topple.
I challenge you to look at this timberland PRIOR TO the arrival of industry. It was the presence of CONSUMERS OF LABOR that beaconed masses of people to flow into Detroit. Afterward GOVERNMENT grew.
Today the businesses are gone, the government remains yet the people are slowly trickling away.
I would LOVE for you to develop the language that speaks to how certain POLICIES advocated by people you favor have worked to erode the long term interests of the WORKERS. Today they transformed from WORKERS back to people SEEKING WORK.
Don't just tell me who TORE DOWN THE ECONOMY. Tell me WHO BUILT IT UP in the first place. That is IF you are interested in having an intellectually compliant conversation. How else do you plan to REBUILD if you don't accurately describe what happened?
"Why is it that the doctrines of one leftist cause can be obtained from another by simply cutting and pasting a few phrases? Because each activist is an anti-capitalist who blames bourgeois privilege for the institutional oppression directed against the proletariat. In American society, the left has decided that our proletariat should include people of color, women, homosexuals, animals, and the environment, while the face of the bourgeoisie is that of a white, capitalist, Christian male. Each leftist identifies with a specific cause, and collectively, they work to bring about a revolution which will usher in our own imitation of the former Soviet Union. Though rarely using the terminology of Marxism outright, they deceptively speak of fairness, equality, and social justice in an effort to frustrate any rational attempt at debate. Those who disagree are labeled racist, sexist, or fascist (even though fascism is a close relative of communism)."
Mr. Beck, how the hell are you? Glad you are here. Hopefully we can have some dialogue in the future...
The news, earthquakes happening around the globe, the change in climate, the separateness and apathy of people: deception, dishonesty, despair and mistrust of people, government, and nations...increasing same sex gender attractions- men sleeping with men and women sleeping with women…. mounting addictions nationally-from alcoholism to drugs, food, sex, tv, internet, and of course, blogging…
People are bleeding at their spiritual roots--cut off by ignoble acts that block them from the Source of goodness. The escalating disharmony, chaos and unnaturalness feels destructive and morally rudderless. It is strange and frightening.
Anon - get a name so I know which Anon I'm talking to. It helps in bashing Filled Negro.
Let me fine tune your claim a bit.
[quote]The path to a proletariat uprising in the United States involves the transformation or destruction of certain institutions which are deemed to be supportive of our capitalist society.[/quote]
They are ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT Players. Yet they can't come to grips with the notion that THEY ARE THE ESTABLISHMENT POWER in the cities that I frequently list.
By DENYING THEIR ESTABLISHMENT they can continue with their PERPETUAL STRUGGLE against the power which is now EXTERNAL to them. This has the effect of them on a perpetual LAND GRAB. Never held accountable for the land that they have trampled. Always STRUGGLING against an "oppressor" who's DISCRIMINATORY ACT is that they want to SEPARATE from the Progressive-Fundamentalist, allowing him to live as they please.
** The anti-racist focuses on law enforcement
This is so EVEN WHEN they control the Mayor's office and thus the police
the feminist wants to emasculate our schools
They want to change the messages in the schools so that a different INDOCTRINATED OUTCOME might be had. When societal dysfunction is seen - they'll merely have a new point of activism to focus upon.
the gay activist seeks to destroy the institution of marriage
I don't think they want to destroy the institution. Instead they seek to CO-OPT the institution so that with official societal sanction they can FORCE those who refuse to see their relationship as "EQUAL" to that of a man and a woman to be silent LEST THE POWER OF THE GOVERNMENT bear down upon them.
the environmentalist hopes to severely weaken business.
One could argue that DETROIT is well on its way to becoming a WILDERNESS again. With the polluting factories and environmentally destructive human beings departing - I saw a story that the first beaver was seen in Detroit since the 1950's.
The conundrum with the ANTI-CAPITALIST/ Pro-Green can be seen in Van Jones. He seeks BILLIONS of CAPITALIST MONEY to fund the next round of GREEN JOBS. I have stated in the past - Jones would impress me more if he were to come up with a new metal smelting process that uses far less ENERGY. This would be a practical application of his THEORIES and would convince me that he has goals beyond an anti-capitalistic take over.
[quote] Some institutions are so threatening that they warrant a united attack whose approach depends on the specific leftist cause.[/quote]
Anon - Progressivism is not an ORGANIC. They have a STRUGGLE/GRIEVANCE milieu.
Their UNITY comes in finding an external enemy and STRUGGLING AGAINST IT.
The WORST possible scenario is for them to WIN - being all alone by themselves and having to become ESTABLISHMENT PLAYERS for the next generation of PROGRESSIVES to struggle against.
[quote] For example, consider the institution of Christianity, which must be eliminated because it cannot be allowed to coexist with a godless, communist state.[/quote]
Anon:
I don't think that they want Christianity "destroyed".
Instead they want it WATERED DOWN.
When a church goes from FUNDAMENTALIST ENFORCERS over to EXTREME INCLUSIVE, "Welcoming all who come through its front doors" while avoiding JUDGMENTALISM they have reached the full meaning of "Christianity". (Side note - I know that my friend Mellaneous attends one of these type churches. All praises to my friend).
What they are not able to deal with is the fact that their LEFTIST FRIENDS will make note of a scandal that takes place in such a church where in their 'non-judgmentalism" they lowered the bar of scrutiny.
Those who WANTED TO DERAIL THE CHURCH IN THE FIRST PLACE will make note of the HYPOCRISY and SIN that takes place in the church despite the fact that it was the church's previous attempt at reorienting itself toward a message of inclusiveness that gutted much of the framework that worked to keep everyone upholding a high level of integrity.
The truth is Anon- that IF a church was to have a REFORMATION movement where ALL BIBLICAL admonitions were followed - those who called them HYPOCRITES in the past would be the main ones FIGHTING against such a "Hypocrisy Purge".
Who are the modern day "coin changers" within?
"Ultimately THIS SOCIETY has to make choices regarding what is on its list of "permissiveness". They also must ACCEPT the consequences - good and bad that result.
My problem is that many of those who seek to dismantle the foundations of the Judeo-Christian tenants too often seek to have GOVERNMENT INTRUSION called in to fill the void. Those who were once ATTACKED in the absence of government are prone to use the GOVERNMENT as their attacker against anyone who disagrees with them.'
HUH?
You mean like that pesky little thing called slavery back in the day? CF, I feel you; if the government had just stayed out of the way, the good people of A-merry-ca would have realized that it was immoral and would have come around. Eventually.
I swear wingnuts get worse every day.
And just WTF is a "Judeo-Christian tenant"?
"When a church goes from FUNDAMENTALIST ENFORCERS over to EXTREME INCLUSIVE, "Welcoming all who come through its front doors" while avoiding JUDGMENTALISM they have reached the full meaning of "Christianity".
Won't that mean we will all in heaven? Surely you do not think that can happen here on earth, do you?
[quote]You mean like that pesky little thing called slavery back in the day? CF, I feel you; if the government had just stayed out of the way, the good people of A-merry-ca would have realized that it was immoral and would have come around. Eventually.[/quote]
Filled Negro:
I, like many of the judges that you no doubt testify before are stunned at your ability to "play dumb".
I have learned to NOT RUN FROM any "Slavery"/"Racism Chasing" points that you and others bring up. You hope that it is such a hot potato subject that me, a fellow Negro, would not dare go against you.
You compare SLAVERY - the purposeful denial of EQUAL HUMAN BEINGS, created by GOD - for the purposes of retaining them as BEASTS OF BURDEN to the treatment of HOMOSEXUALS?
Kneegrow Please!!!
Whereas the WHITE MAN was able to MATE with the EQUAL HUMAN BEING from Africa and thus produce offspring......there is NOT ONE SINGLE male in human history that has ejaculated his "genetic seed" into the anus of a MALE OR WOMAN and reproduced a human. (Note: I HAVE NO MALICE as I state this. I am only submitting scientific fact).
Do you see the FRAUDULENCE in your submission Filled Negro?
Strip away the corrupt government and the AFRICA IS STILL AN EQUAL HUMAN BEING, regardless of what the CORRUPT AND RACIST government labeled him as.
REMOVE the government and the scientific truth remains - IN THE REFERENCE STANDARD of the HUMAN BEING any male who's genetic material is placed within the REPRODUCTIVE CANAL of a FEMALE has EQUAL GENETIC MARKERS that can INSEMINATE an OVUM inside of a HUMAN FEMALE and thus initiate the gestation process of a being, IF LEFT UNMOLESTED from its nutrient source on the WALLS OF ITS MOTHERS WOMB - will produce a HUMAN BEING after the gestation period has concluded.
All of our debates on SOCIETAL CONSTRUCTS cannot obfuscate from this basic FACT!!! The Human male and the Human female have COMPLEMENTARY GENITALIA.
The human REPRODUCTIVE system is different from the human DIGESTIVE system and RENAL system regardless of the fact that each have nerve endings that respond to TACTILE STIMULATION that are indeed pleasurable. (Or can get the sh_t smacked out of you IF you touch someone you were not allowed to touch)
[quote]Won't that mean we will all in heaven? Surely you do not think that can happen here on earth, do you?[/quote]
Filled Negro:
WHY do you ask me to DETAIL ABOUT "HEAVEN" when YOU don't believe in such a thing?
This would be like me bringing out my gold leaf dinnerware to sup with swine at a pig sty. While such finery may BE APPEALING TO ME as I get to pull the forks from my china cabinet - the SWINE who I eat with would rather me DISPENSE with the controlled portions of their food - instead preferring that I DUMP IT ALL UPON THE GROUND for them to consume at once.
WHY do you ask me such questions Filled Negro?
WHY do you seek to place ME on trial?
It is YOU who should be seated at the defense table - shackled with an orange jumpsuit that has a built in taser belt in the event that you act a fool.
What are YOUR visions of heaven? How does this influence your behavior on Earth and among other people who are lost?
This is all that matters.
anon @9;50 said:
The news, earthquakes happening around the globe, the change in climate, the separateness and apathy of people: deception, dishonesty, despair and mistrust of people, government, and nations...increasing same sex gender attractions- men sleeping with men and women sleeping with women…. mounting addictions nationally-from alcoholism to drugs, food, sex, tv, internet, and of course, blogging…
People are bleeding at their spiritual roots--cut off by ignoble acts that block them from the Source of goodness. The escalating disharmony, chaos and unnaturalness feels destructive and morally rudderless. It is strange and frightening."
what a piece of TRIPE! earthquakes are not caused by immorality, neither is homosexuality. if we are going to hell in a hand-basket, which i refuse to believe, it's because of ignorant assholes like you who -- and sarah palin -- thanks to the internet have a platform. i blame john mc cain!
What are YOUR visions of heaven?"
Lark Voorhies about...hmmm, say ten years ago, chilling with the kid on Taprobane Island,and Babylon By Bus playng over and over again in the background.
"You compare SLAVERY - the purposeful denial of EQUAL HUMAN BEINGS, created by GOD - for the purposes of retaining them as BEASTS OF BURDEN to the treatment of HOMOSEXUALS?
Kneegrow Please!!!"
First they came for the Gays, and then they came for me.
BTW, I did no such thing, but I will play along.
Do you think it is right to discriminate against another human being because of his or her sexual preference? Just a simple yes or no answer, please.
Define discriminate FN? Allowing marriage? Allowing adoptions? Allowing that lifestyle to be taught in elementary and secondary schools?
First of all, as homosexuals themselves will tell you, it's not a "preference" because if it were a "preference" they say they would prefer to be straight and not have to endure the cruelty and hassles of discrimination.
Secondly,it's also not a "lifestyle". There are many "lifestyles", which means the style of life you lead. Homosexual people lead many different kinds of "lifestyles, just as heterosexuals do. Having a couple of gays in my family, as we all do, this is just my two cents!
[quote]Do you think it is right to discriminate against another human being because of his or her sexual preference? Just a simple yes or no answer, please.[/quote]
Filled Negro:
WE ARE NOT IN COURT.
Thus I am not an ASSAULT VICTIM of YOUR DEFENDANT where you get to confine me into "Y/N" answers.
HERE IS MY ANSWER:
THERE IS NO CIVILIZED SOCIETY THAT FAILS TO DISCRIMINATE.
Conversely: DISCRIMINATION IS THE SIGN OF CIVILITY - when done according to the RULES OF CIVILIZATION.
What we are arguing Filled Negro, Jody and AB (who will no doubt join in later) is upon the LIST OF ACCEPTABLE ENTRIES upon which we DISCRIMINATE and what forms should this discrimination take place.
STOP KIDDING YOURSELVES.
To answer your question: I as a public citizen in a civilized society do not DISCRIMINATE against a homosexual in areas of life that are OUTSIDE OF THE CONTEXT of relevancy.
Thus - I have interviewed several effeminate men and evaluated them on their MERITS. The evil corporation that I work for demands nothing less than a fair hearing as they seek out the most qualified individuals.
IF we took your logic to the logical conclusion THEN in my pursuit of pure "non-discrimination" against homosexuals should have it that when a GAY MALE summons me for an intimate experience I SHOULD NOT allow HIS PREFERENCES for males and his GENDER cause me to make a discernment that HE IS A MALE while I prefer FEMALES.
I am guilty of "Hetero-Normative bigotry if I do.
I would love for you to disassemble this last argument telling me WHERE it doesn't model your charge against me?
CactusRose:
As a straight male who is married - what do you call my CHOICE to go against the inner voices that would otherwise have me to follow my role model - Tiger Woods?
Do these SOCIETAL STRICTURES upon me register as the same sort of SUPPRESSION of my normal orientation as you feel is the case with the homosexual?
Researchers: Men Want Sex Until They Are Almost Dead:
http://www.ajc.com/news/researchers-men-want-sex-361309.html?cxtype=rss_news_128746
It is not a "preference". It is an orientation. Heteros are born hetero, they do not "prefer" to be hetero. Gays are born gay, they do not"prefer" to be gay.
I honestly hope this girl can leave the Salem Witch Trials aka Mississippi. There are just places in this country were decent and common sense never shine.
@CF
"As a straight male who is married - what do you call my CHOICE to go against the inner voices that would otherwise have me to follow my role model - Tiger Woods?"
I call it silly. Silly you, you only have one life,so give in to your "inner voices", enjoy, just like he did. Why should you deny yourself? You will only end up a frustrated, repressed person...hmmmmmm............:)
listen,protect yourself, keep it on the down low, so the wife doesn't get hurt,and enjoy!
CF "This would be like me bringing out my gold leaf dinnerware to sup with swine at a pig sty. While such finery may BE APPEALING TO ME as I get to pull the forks from my china cabinet - the SWINE who I eat with would rather me DISPENSE with the controlled portions of their food - instead preferring that I DUMP IT ALL UPON THE GROUND for them to consume at once."
Thanks for the analogy. I have tried sharing things of spiritual nature with such people I should not have.
I have learned that it is better to remain silent and not share such matters with nasty pigs. Maria the confused sick praying atheist, comes to mind.
“Don’t waste what is holy on people who are unholy. Don’t throw your pearls to pigs! They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you." Matt 7:6
[quote],so give in to your "inner voices", enjoy, just like he did. Why should you deny yourself? You will only end up a frustrated, repressed person...hmmmmmm............:)
listen,protect yourself, keep it on the down low, so the wife doesn't get hurt,and enjoy![/quote]
I see that you are Puerto Rican.
Are you coming through the ATL any time soon? "No one has to know. Papi".
:-)
:-)
(Only joking ladies. Don't hate. Jamaican women get violent when they are cheated upon anyway.)
CF my challenge would be to go against your inner voices that say marry a female, have sex with a female, love a female...that is much more of an accurate comparison than your Twoods analogy.
I find your term "rules of civilization" the key here CF, who is in power to make these rules? What if these rules repress African Americans (as have historically done)?
Rules of civilization speaks to rules created by those in power. That is a slippery slope my friend.
PS I couldn't figure out why Maria was praying a few days back either.
The joke would be on you CF, CRose is a chick with a dick. But then again, that might be "okay".
Cactusrose, "First of all, as homosexuals themselves will tell you, it's not a "preference" because if it were a "preference" they say they would prefer to be straight and not have to endure the cruelty and hassles of discrimination."
Thanks CR, that's something we ALL must keep in mind, esp in the black community. Do gays have the same problem of non-acceptance in the PR community?
I hope it isn't as dangerous for gays there as in Jamaica. It is very bad there.
@CF:"Are you coming through the ATL any time soon? "No one has to know. Papi".
:-)
:-)
(Only joking ladies"
Hahaha!, Thanks CF, but if I were to accept every offer I get, the lines would form around the block! LOL!
CR-"I call it silly. Silly you, you only have one life,so give in to your "inner voices", enjoy, just like he did. Why should you deny yourself? You will only end up a frustrated, repressed person...hmmmmmm............:)
listen,protect yourself, keep it on the down low, so the wife doesn't get hurt,and enjoy!"
Are you serious? Are there any boundaries of self-restraint, or do humans just give in to their greed because they have only one life? What's the point of commitment, honesty, or any of that "silly" stuff?
Should humans follow those inner voices of morality or inner voices of greed and lust? You are gay, aren't you?
@Anonymous 1:50 PM said...
"Do gays have the same problem of non-acceptance in the PR community?"
Yes they do. Just a couple od months ago a young designer was killed and dismembered, and his body parts scattered in the brush. The killer was found, and is currently jailed. He was a married man with children. Here gays are usually not blatant about it, they are in all professions of course, but they must keep their orientation private or else risk losing all. The state religion here is Catholisism so you can imagine. The archbishop is clearly gay but of course as long as he doesn't admit it, he's in like flint! LOL!
The openly gay here have to be very, very careful, as do the women. I will tell you that there is also an extraordinary amount of violence and murder towards women here also. The machismo is rampant and out of control!
cactusrose said...
First of all, as homosexuals themselves will tell you, it's not a "preference" because if it were a "preference" they say they would prefer to be straight and not have to endure the cruelty and hassles of discrimination."
No Rose, it is a preference, one that for many is worth expressing in the face of the expected level of cruel "hassles of discrimination" they will face.
We do NOT automatically allow individuals to express their preferences. There are people whose preference is to have sex with young children. They may have been born with this preference, but that doesn't matter. This is something society has a much higher level of "dicrimination" against.
We don't criminalize homosexuality as long it is between consenting adults. A society still has the right to pass opprobrium on behaviors it sees at counterproductive, and to subsidize behaviors it sees as fundamentally important (e.g. hetereosexual marriage).
The activist campaign to normalize homosexuality, including to permit gay marriage, is an assault on the foundations of a healthy culture. From the homosexual point of view, this is being done merely to assuage their self-esteem by forcing the wider culture to validate their lifestyle. From the point of view of their allies on the Left, this campaign is just another front on its war on the culture. Legalizing gay marriage will of course not destroy marriage by itself, but it is another incremental step toward dismantling a society that, for all its faults, has offered the best path toward freedom and propsperity of any political system.
@ Anonymous 2:02 PM said...
Are you serious? Are there any boundaries of self-restraint, or do humans just give in to their greed because they have only one life? What's the point of commitment, honesty, or any of that "silly" stuff?
Should humans follow those inner voices of morality or inner voices of greed and lust? You are gay, aren't you?
If that's what you want, then you live that.If you are happy in a monogamous, commited relationship, then wonderful, great!
But if a person wants to explore sexuality with other people then they should be able to do it.
I was not referring to"greed".
I am not gay, but that doesn't matter anyway. I am me, and if I were gay I would still be me.
CR "Yes they do. Just a couple od months ago a young designer was killed and dismembered, and his body parts scattered in the brush."
holy shit!
CR-"The state religion here is Catholisism so you can imagine. The archbishop is clearly gay but of course as long as he doesn't admit it, he's in like flint! LOL!"
It's an insane world and it sounds like Catholicism has some 'minor hidden' problems. LOL
cf
gender roles have nothing to do with sexuality
men are the best chefs in the world
many wives make more money/all the money
many moms are stricter than dads with their kids ETC........
wake up!!!
anyone who is abused and given LESSER rights because of who they are with a consenting adult is wronged
civil rights are human rights period!!
___
fn
seen this?
shame!!!!!!!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100314/ap_on_re_us/us_lesbian_sergeant_discharged
@ Anonymous 2:56 pm
If you're interested heres a link I found in English, but the crime ocurred here in P.R.
http://chicago.indymedia.org/feature/display/70395/index.php
ditto cr:
just as all rabid gaybashers are gay
any blind rabid fool who thinks that anyone chooses to be het or gay is
deep denia and
most often these fools are confessing that they are dl and living a lie!!!
what they are really saying is:
i know i am gay and i pretend to be het so all u other gays better live a lie like i do!!!
i fell madly in love with my bf teacher when i was 5...i was devastated when she introduced her bm fiance to our class
MOST KIDS KNOW THEIR SEXUALITY BY AGE 5!!
i hid it until 16
and did not come out to all until 21
and those het kids who grow up to be secure adults never ever tell other adults who THEY are!!!!!!!
AB: 'MOST KIDS KNOW THEIR SEXUALITY BY AGE 5!!
i hid it until 16
and did not come out to all until 21"
That's fine. you certainly don't have to hide anything now What most "hets" oppose is not that you live your life hassle-free and in peace, but that gays are inisting on more than equal treatment.
I don't wish to deny gays their happiness. Gays have rejected the "civil union" compromise, one that gives them all the legal guarantees of marriage, and have insisted on having the exact same thing heterosexual couples have.
This may be harder for someone under 35, someone who has been indoctrinated in government schools, to grasp, but homosexual "marriage is not the same, and it is a farce to pretend otherwise.
Hetrerosexual marriage is subsidized (a little) because it the institution that produces the succedding generations. Not all heterosexual marriages produce children, but it is the only institution in which two people can produce children.
Homosexuals want the same benefits granted heterosexual married couples when they do not provide the same benefit to society. This is akin to childless couple demanding a child tax credit in the name of "equality". It makes no sense.
cf:
5/7/09
oiutlook
No one chooses to be homosexual or heterosexual. These are labels for natural sexual identities. Homosexuality is natural for homosexuals. Heterosexuality is unnatural for homosexuals. Sex is not sexuality. Sex is an act. Sexuality is an internal psyche. People who masturbate are not trying to clone themselves. Sex is an act of pleasure and procreation. Heterosexuals prove this every time they visit strip clubs, enjoy porn, or use birth control.
Sexuality is a natural biological orientation. If a homosexual is celibate forever, they will still be homosexual forever. A homosexual woman can die a virgin nun and she will be a dead lesbian. A homosexual man can marry a woman and father 10 children and he will still be gay. A heterosexual man can get paid to make gay porn movies for decades. A woman can be a lesbian and marry a man for his money. A man can be gay and marry a woman for her money…
NOONE CAN EVER CHOOSE THEIR SEXUALITY! We all can ONLY choose to engage in specific sex acts! We all choose homosexual or heterosexual sex acts for a myriad of reasons including: being who we were born to be (living naturally, openly, and honestly), as closeted camouflage (beards, DL men and DL women, etc…), for money (porn stars, gold diggers etc.…), for sexual survival/barter (prison rapists/maytags), or boredom (faux gay celebrities, amoral hedonistic sex freaks etc…).
So, always remember that ANYONE who claims that they KNOW homosexuals choose to be gay is truly just coming out! They are actually saying this:
“I KNOW THAT I CHOOSE TO LIE ABOUT MY OWN HOMOSEXUALITY!!! I CHOOSE TO PRETEND THAT I AM HETEROSEXUAL. I HATE ALL GAYS WHO REFUSE TO CHOOSE TO ENDURE HETEROSEXUAL SEX AS I DO. I AM A COWARD WHO PRETENDS TO BE HETEROSEXUAL. I HATE ALL GAYS WHO ARE BRAVER THAN I AM… I LIVE A LIE AND I HATE ALL GAYS WHO REFUSE TO LIVE THE SAME LIE THAT I DO. I CHOSE TO PRETEND TO BE HETEROSEXUAL AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER HOMOSEXUALS BETTER DO THE SAME. GOD WILL ONLY LOVE US IF WE LIVE A LIE….”
WITHOUT EXCEPTION, ALL RABID GAYBASHERS ARE GAY! These three gaybashing stooges on Tyra’s show today actually came out. And, they did so on national TV. Kudos!!!
Do not be fooled by the televised gay wimps! We gays slay gaybashers daily in real life! Some of us gay warriors would destroy all gaybashing TV fools so ruthlessly that censors would have to bump Tyra to the midnight hour so their slaughters would be less likely to traumatize underage viewers!!!…
outlook
assnons post psuedo-intellectual drivel to appear to be intelligent.
eloquent lies do not a cogent or factual debate make!
homosexuality is normal in every living species.
assnons that try to outlaw nature and deny gay humans civil rights are ABNORMAL & AMORAL!!!!
assnons pretend that gays want special rights.
just like the kkk does for blacks.
special rights = EQUAL rights for "unequal people".
assnons are hopelessly retarded evil ignant mfs!!!!!
CR-"If that's what you want, then you live that.If you are happy in a monogamous, commited relationship, then wonderful, great!
But if a person wants to explore sexuality with other people then they should be able to do it.
I was not referring to"greed"."
Thanks for clearing up the "greed" bit for me. I misread you.
However, I think the problem of exploring sexuality with other people on the dl while in a committed relationship or marriage leads to an unhappy ending and an ugly divorce.
The stats of genital disease, kids born out of wedlock and abortions indicate that wanton sexual exploration can destroy lives, esp in the black community. Not all lustful desires should be acted upon.
assnons pretend that single people like me do not pay MORE taxes than couple with children for schools and i have NO kids!!!!
assnons are arrogantly ignorant morons!!!
assnons do not say one thing about all the legally marriesd hets who are sterile!!!!
assnons should not breed hateful moron spawn!!
assnons pretend that civil unions are the same as marriages
they are not!!!
same = 100% EQUAL
gay = 100& human
the bs that assnons pass off as debate = 100% stupidity!!!!
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2008/05/21/The_Community_Reacts/
Civil rights are like pregnancy. They never exist partially. One is pregnant or not. One is married or not. Period. Marriage secures assets, insurance benefits, wills, income, tax breaks, pensions, property, custody, peace, and overall quality of life. Gay bashers are lewdly and exclusively obsessed with gay sex. They absolutely ignore all gay love. God is love. All true love is sacred. God blesses all true love.
assnons are blinded by hatred and hypocrisy!!!
Black people who witnessed a racist moron and his brazenly evil brother and other politrickal allies steal an entire election, by tampering with democracy and national voter processes, are eager to allow this same thief to tamper with the U. S. Constitution.
Black people who believe that the very same Constitution that had to be amended to remind Americans that slavery was legal, that slaves were property on all American soil, and that blacks can vote, truly feel that same Constitution should now be amended to remind gays that we are lesser humans who can never marry.
Black people who were legally forbidden to marry white lovers now encourage and plan to vote for the very same marital outlawing of gay spouses.
More than 66% of black heterosexual marriages end in divorce. Yet, Black people dare to feign that homosexual weddings will “destabilize” marriage.
Black people who dare to lament how “The Black Family” is wounded by countless toxic, sexist, dysfunctional, criminal, misogynist, pathological heterosexuals can never explain how positive homosexuals hurt any black family. Black people would rather lament absent or toxic heterosexual family members than respect and honor superior homosexual family members who are present and productive.
Black people, who increasingly define “family” as a poor, single, uneducated mother with children by multiple fathers, dare to deny two stable, professional, educated, gainfully employed gay persons the legal right to rear biological or adoptive children as married parents.
Black people who truly believe that homosexuals arbitrarily choose to be gay can never ever give one valid reason why any person would ever choose to be homosexual.
Black people refuse to accept scientific evidence that proves that homosexuals are born into literally every living species. Accurately, Black people never refer to heterosexuality as a mere “lifestyle”. Black people do define and revere “pimping” as a lifestyle and they dare to equate being born a homosexual with being a pimp.
Black people who know all about the infamous “Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment” and countless other documented cases of federally sanctioned biological and chemical warfare dare to believe that AIDS is a plague from God created to kill homosexuals.
Black people who know that sexually transmitted AIDS never affects exclusive lesbians refuse to believe that lesbians are God’s chosen people. Black people refuse to accept the documented fact that King James was a homosexual even as they use his own misinterpreted bible to gaybash.
Black people were abused by the bible and other religious texts, and wounded by white supremacist and sexist religions, which made their own global kidnapping and enslavement divine, and annihilated their own African religions, which are rooted in female polygoddesses. Yet, black people have decided to embrace that very same racist and sexist book/buybull, penned by human men, to lend a similarly evil and false divinity to their hatred and abuse of gays.
Black homosexuals who are habitually verbally, emotionally, and spiritually tortured by gaybashing hypocritical preachers still attend their hateful and sinful “Christian” churches faithfully and pay tithes. Gay dollars are NEVER rejected by gaybashing preachers. Masochistic gay fools must stop attending and tithing at homohating churches!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/ame-sex-marriage-same-stupid-hypocrisies.html
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123ddf0fd61860b.html
assnons need to get got.
assnons have next!!!
These are the words of Reverend Martin Niemoeller. They were his explanation of why he spoke out against the Nazis. He spent eight years in concentration camps for leading The Protestant Church's opposition to Adolph Hitler. The Nazis imprisoned him at Sachsenhausen in 1937 for criticizing the Third Reich. He was freed from Dachau in 1945. He died at the age of 92 on March 6, 1984.
"They came after the Jews, and I was not a Jew, so I did not object.
They came after the Catholics, and I was not a Catholic, so I did not object.
They came after the trade unionists, and I was not a trade unionist, so I did not object.
Then they came after me and there was nobody left to object."
most cheating spouses that are infected with ALL stds are HETS...not dls or gays!!
assnons pretend that a gay life as a second class citizen with lesser rights etc....= a " hassle free life"
wtf?????
assnons are retard and caged by sheer arrogant ignorance!!!
if assnons were really concerned about the sanctity/stability of marriage/culture...they would have no time to fret over gays
they would be too busy with:
divorce rates
single het moms
deadbeat het dads
pre-nups
custody law
alimony attys
etc
assnons are retards!!!!
wow, CF, the "inner voices" tell you that tiger woods is to be emulated? i find that shocking. does your wife know? how do you resist these urges?
i personally don't believe monogamy or marriage are natural states for humans, but if you decide to enter the latter, you'd better be prepared to practice the former.
but tiger is out there, surely most people would never go that far.
CF said
"IF you were told that the term "Tea Bagger" which was adopted by hate-filled leftists as a pejorative against people they disagreed with - WOULD YOU, a Christian man, CONTINUE TO MAKE USE OF THIS TERM?
Good point I will refer to them in the future as those who refer to themselves or have participated in what they have termed and popular parlance have been referred to members of a "Tea Party."
I resent your efforts to try to paint me in some corner I am not the person who runs around calling folks names. You and the anons do that very well and often. You know exactly what I mean when I said Tea Bagger and it was not meant as a perjorative and you know it. But I will make the correction in the future.
I will refer to them as people who "appear" to have no coherent message besides being "apparently"opposed to universal health care or any kind of health care reform, which may use their tax dollars to help treat those they consider unworthy of having their money spent on. Of better yet the folks who "appear/seem" to be opposed to immigration or "appear/seem" to be anti-black judging from the awful pictures of President Obama that have been displayed at their rallies. Or the people who are opposed to socialism because they
"appear" to think it means helping someone who is poor because they are lazy or otherwise unworthy.
gaybashing assnons are serial killers...shame!!!!
http://www.queerty.com/roseanne-barrs-swift-attack-on-marie-osmond-and-her-anti-gay-church-20100305/
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de047633860c.html
http://www.amazon.com/Prayers-Bobby-Mothers-Coming-Suicide/dp/0062511238/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1267376280&sr=1-1
http://www.mylifetime.com/movies/prayers-for-bobby/video
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/on-gay-marriage---reflections-on-a-pope-a-dope.html
maria
ditto!
and one of tiger's mistresses outed him as bi too
funny how gaybashers defended all of his condomless whoring and rabid serial adultery...but not his bi fetish
shame!!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/hold-that-tiger.html
CF said;
"So Mellaneous - let's pretend that the Tea Party IS full of hatred. Does this give YOU cover for your HATRED?
Cut it out you know I don't hate anyone and because I sharply disagree with you on occassion or am totally opposed to policies and institutions that treat people as other than God's children does not make me someone who hates anyone.
I am a Christian and I think I act like one, and yes I am not sure you always live up to the designations with your callousness and lack of empathy and compassion for those who don't have the same God given innate abilities to overcome adversity in their lives as others.
So cut it out. If I hate anything I definitely hate evil. I am tempted to hate how you make up things and straw men to argue with and I am tempted to hate how you keep folks from discussing forward thinking ways in which we can make society better for all involved, instead of saying tough luck to those who struggle.
NO GAYS SHOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW BIBLICAL/MARITAL LAWS UNTIL MARRIES HETS FOLLOW BIBLICAL LAWS!!!
Marriage in the United States shall consist of a union between one man and one or more women. (Genesis 29:17-28; II Samuel 3:2-5)
Marriage shall not impede a man's right to take concubines in addition to his wife or wives. (II Samuel; 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chronicles 11:21)
A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. (Deutoronomy 22:13-21)
Marriage between a believer and a nonbeliever shall be forbidden. (Genesis 24:3; Numbers 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Nehemiah 10:30)
Since marriage is for life, neither this Constitution nor the Constitution of any State, nor any state or federal law, shall be construed to permit divorce. (Deuteronomy 22:19; Mark 10:9)
If a married man dies without children, his brother shall marry the widow. If he refuses to marry his brother's widow or deliberately does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe and be
otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law. (Genesis 38:6-10; Deuteronomy 25:5-10)
Divorced people may not remarry without being considered adulterers. (Matthew 5:31-32) (Mark 10:4)
Adulterers shall be stoned to death. (Leviticus 20:10) …
have stated for decades and I will always believe that African-American and global African gaybashers are the most rabid gaybashers on earth. See the links below regarding reggae music’s routinely bloody gaybashing lyrics, the gaybashing legacies of civil rights leaders and academic scholars who continue to betray and disrespect superior and legendary black warriors and intellectuals who are homosexual, the syncopated sexism and misogyny on crack that fuel most rap music lyrics, ignorant miseducated black preachers who chant mantras of ancient hateful biblical lies about homosexuals as weekly Sunday sermons…
These vicious black gaybashers get stranger every day. Black people brazenly ignore their bibles completely unless they are referring to homosexuals. Black people who dare to order homosexuals to obey nonexistent biblical marital laws for homosexuals simultaneously disobey biblical laws that order married heterosexuals as follows:
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/ame-sex-marriage-same-stupid-hypocrisies.html
assnons who want to fix marriage/marital culture in the usa need to skip over gays and start with those 24 hr wedding chapels in las vegas!
ditto mell!!!
i hate evil and ignorance!
so
i really really hate all assnons!!!
CR thanks for the link. In reading how the story unfolded...gay men pretending to be female prostitutes are taking high risks with their lives. They can never know whose homophobia they may be triggering once the straight man discovers he is not in the company of a sexy woman.
I think that was the investigating officer's point when he mentioned, 'this is what can happen when you lead this lifestyle.' Of course, that was not the way the GBLT took it, and maybe they were right.
Regardless, it was an unbelievable violent crime-one of the worst. The court should throw the book at him.
CF said;
"Today the businesses are gone, the government remains yet the people are slowly trickling away.
I would LOVE for you to develop the language that speaks to how certain POLICIES advocated by people you favor have worked to erode the long term interests of the WORKERS. Today they transformed from WORKERS back to people SEEKING WORK.
Don't just tell me who TORE DOWN THE ECONOMY. Tell me WHO BUILT IT UP in the first place. That is IF you are interested in having an intellectually compliant conversation. How else do you plan to REBUILD if you don't accurately describe what happened?"
-Jody you did not right not to respond to this.
-CF this is one of another of your really weak anti people who have to work for a living arguments. This is a foolish point and surely you are not stupid enough to try to propose that the auto industry came to Detroit just because they wanted to give workers jobs. (LOL)Thats so silly. And your racist friend likes to call me stupid.
-And it sounds foolish and narrow to insinuate that, while the auto industry was making money hand over fist that the workers should have just taken what ever pay was offered them.
-You clearly don't think through what you write because I don't believe a black person could be that narrow or callous to; suggest, assert, surmise, or imply that the history of unions and the resulting fairer wages and better working conditions that came about as the result of the unions struggle was a bad thing.
-Whether you realize it or not thats what you implied.
-You were aware I am sure, that the auto makers shipped much of their work overseas to Third World companies not just because it was cheaper, but because it was much much much cheaper. They got away with in many cases paying workers less than a tenth of what workers in Detroit and Ohio and Minnesota were making. LOOK IT UP!!
-You probably were aware as well that many of the US auto companies were skimping in areas of manufacturing and cutting corners. The Japanese companies have just been caught doing some of the same things. What do they heve in common?
-We'll chalk this up to an oversight on your part.
-I believe you just made a mistake no one with black skin could be that unsympathetic or aloof about the plight of everyday working people. But I'll give you a pass if you didn't know that the majority of black folks are working class or everyday working people.
mellaneous, "I am a Christian and I think I act like one, and yes I am not sure you always live up to the designations with your callousness and lack of empathy and compassion for those who don't have the same God given innate abilities to overcome adversity in their lives as others."
You are a Christian because you say you are. CF and many others say they are Christians also. You have no right to say they are not. It is not up to you to judge others' faults while ignoring and thinking you have none.
You talk about other's callousness while you stink up the blog with your own unmercifulness.
You gladly winnow in the wind the faults of CF and others while you avoid and hide your own!
1)"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2)For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3)Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
4)How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
5)You HYPOCRITE, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
Matthew 7
Until you can truly follow Christ, you need to shut up.
the poster
WE ARE NOT IN COURT.
Thus I am not an ASSAULT VICTIM of YOUR DEFENDANT where you get to confine me into "Y/N" answers.
HERE IS MY ANSWER:
THERE IS NO CIVILIZED SOCIETY THAT FAILS TO DISCRIMINATE.
Conversely: DISCRIMINATION IS THE SIGN OF CIVILITY - when done according to the RULES OF CIVILIZATION.
I will take that as a YES to my question.
Thank you.
cr:
ditto!
i think gaybashers fear hets because most men are NOT monogamous and most women ARE...they envy what they feel is some special serenity we have
all relos have the same issues
http://brownsista.com/shanie-oneal-opens-up-about-life-with-shaq/
but generally
gay male duos do have many successful open relos
and
most lesbian relos are monogamous
this is the one way most hets envy gays
we have much more to envy re hets
like legal marriage
no hater dramas etc
cr:
one of the MAIN reasons homohaters fear gay marriage is they know we will have FAR less divorce stats and shame them!
Mellaneous, "I am not the person who runs around calling folks names."
That is BS and you know it. You have left a trail of name calling and false accusations on this blog. I suggest you backtrack and take a look.
Did you go to church today and ask for forgiveness of your sins?
assnons are such hypocrites!!!
it is NOT ok to tell someone they are not christian...but it is OK to tell someone they are not gay/born gay!!!???
wtf!!!!!????
this is further proof of the TRUE hopeless insanity of buybull toting hypochristian fools!!
"assnons that try to outlaw nature and deny gay humans civil rights are ABNORMAL & AMORAL!!!!"
No, gays can do to each other whatever they want. Tolerance is a just demand. What is wrong is using the power of the state to mandate approval.
"Black people who witnessed a racist moron and his brazenly evil brother and other politrickal allies steal an entire election, by tampering with democracy and national voter processes, are eager to allow this same thief to tamper with the U. S. Constitution."
Crazy talk!
CF said;
"that it was the church's previous attempt at reorienting itself toward a message of inclusiveness that gutted much of the framework that worked to keep everyone upholding a high level of integrity."
What pray tell was so superior about the framework in the church in the 18th century that allowed for and justified chattel slavery, the worse kind of slavery ever instituted by man. You know the one that branded folks slaves, not based on their position and their family history of being servants or slaves but based on the color their skin.
Or was this proof of (how did you frame it)"a high level of integrity."
-This was the same framwork that upheld the worst forms of colonial murder and the decimation of whole native populations.
-Or did you think that this was proof of (how did you frame it) "a high level of integrity"
- It was this framework that condemned people of color to second class citizenship.
-Or did you think that this was proof of the churches "high level of integrity" your words.
- It was this framework that relegated women to second class status taking away their voice and their rights.
- Or did that reveal in from your perspective the church's "high level of integrity"
- It was within this "framework" that women who were branded as witches were burned at the stake.
- Let me guess, this too was proof in your mind, of the church's "high level of integrity."
- It was this framework which blessed the idea of "Manifest Destiny." You know the story of how a bunch of land owning church going white folks convinced other church going folks that God had given them this land (North America) and that they were somehow justified in taking it,because it was God ordained to take this land, even though (oops) there were people already inhabiting the land.
This too must surely have been proof of the church's "high level of integrity."
Again I will give you a pass because you obviously didn't read what you wrote again. It's one of the problems that goes along with talking when you should be quiet.
CF said;
"that it was the church's previous attempt at reorienting itself toward a message of inclusiveness that gutted much of the framework that worked to keep everyone upholding a high level of integrity."
What pray tell was so superior about the framework in the church in the 18th century that allowed for and justified chattel slavery, the worse kind of slavery ever instituted by man. You know the one that branded folks slaves, not based on their position and their family history of being servants or slaves but based on the color their skin.
Or was this proof of (how did you frame it)"a high level of integrity."
-This was the same framwork that upheld the worst forms of colonial murder and the decimation of whole native populations.
-Or did you think that this was proof of (how did you frame it) "a high level of integrity"
- It was this framework that condemned people of color to second class citizenship.
-Or did you think that this was proof of the churches "high level of integrity" your words.
- It was this framework that relegated women to second class status taking away their voice and their rights.
- Or did that reveal in from your perspective the church's "high level of integrity"
- It was within this "framework" that women who were branded as witches were burned at the stake.
- Let me guess, this too was proof in your mind, of the church's "high level of integrity."
- It was this framework which blessed the idea of "Manifest Destiny." You know the story of how a bunch of land owning church going white folks convinced other church going folks that God had given them this land (North America) and that they were somehow justified in taking it,because it was God ordained to take this land, even though (oops) there were people already inhabiting the land.
This too must surely have been proof of the church's "high level of integrity."
Again I will give you a pass because you obviously didn't read what you wrote again. It's one of the problems that goes along with talking when you should be quiet.
AB, the real reason hets men have problems with gays is they fear them.
Isn't "fear" the evil corroding thread that runs through the fabric of every human being? Think about it.
That is what makes humans do what they do from avoidance to despictable and hateful things...It's FEAR!
Anon:
Did you go to church today and ask for forgiveness of your sins?
Actually I asked God if he would forgive yours, since you are the most selfish ,jealous, hypocritical, lustful, envious, prevaricating, homophobic, gay hating, black, brown, yellow red folk hating,women hating, working folks hating, poor folk hating, third world hating, and humanity hating person on this blog.
I even asked God if he would forgive you for hating yourself.
Anon:
1)"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2)For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3)Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
4)How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
5)You HYPOCRITE, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
Matthew 7
Why do you say I judge? You obviously don't know scripture. Judging in this context is about saying whether you thought a person would go to hell or not. I don't have any opinions on whether you will go to hell or not.
-On this board I am simply offering my objections to the things that are said.
-You disagree with me you don't think God really has a preference for the poor and oppressed and that God really does favor those who find themselves in awful conditions through no fault of their own.
-Just say that, stop with the subterfuge. You don't care no more about God than a man in the moon. I am sure others have noticed that the only time you invoke God is to try to shut me down.
-What you're doing is hiding behind a few Bible verses, which at bottom is COWARDLY!!
-You really want to call me some bad names too. Put your ideas out there, say you disagree but don't hide behind the Bible because it doesn't support your narrow thinking.
-You are dishonest, you only say this because you hope that I go away and because you disagree with me.
-When CF calls people mofo's or says other nasty things you keep your trap shut.
So who is doing the judging, or is that all the scripture you know.
Why don't you quote Micah 6:8
"For God has showed you what is good and what does the Lord require of you, but to do justice and to love kindness and to walk humly with your God
To the anon " the poster"
Why do you say I judge? You obviously don't know scripture. Judging in this context is about saying whether you thought a person would go to hell or not. I don't have any opinions on whether you will go to hell or not.
-On this board I am simply offering my objections to the things that are said.
-You disagree with me you don't think God really has a preference for the poor and oppressed and that God really does favor those who find themselves in awful conditions through no fault of their own.
-Just say that, stop with the subterfuge. You don't care no more about God than a man in the moon. I am sure others have noticed that the only time you invoke God is to try to shut me down.
-What you're doing is hiding behind a few Bible verses, which at bottom is COWARDLY!!
-You really want to call me some bad names too. Put your ideas out there, say you disagree but don't hide behind the Bible because it doesn't support your narrow thinking.
-You are dishonest, you only say this because you hope that I go away and because you disagree with me. You want me to shut up. Times have changed you can't just shut up folks you disagree with. Notice I never tell folks to shut up because I can "use my words."
-When CF calls people mofo's or says other nasty things you keep your trap shut.
So who is doing the judging, or is that all the scripture you know.
Why don't you quote Micah 6:8
"For God has showed you what is good and what does the Lord require of you, but to do justice and to love kindness and to walk humly with your God
AB thanks and ditto
Sorry about the double post Field I thought it didn't go through.
Ditto on your reponse to that nonsense that CF was spouting. Thats an old argument used by those in power to oppose efforts at civil rights.
-They used to say that "niggers" didn't have sense enough to know that they were being mistreated and were second class citizens, it was the communist or the socialist that told them they were oppressed.
-According to the racists, those weren't real blows black folks were feeling and that real people didn't have their farms stolen and homes burned or have families run out of town.
-It wasn't real that farmers defrauded their black sharecroppers and that many black schools were either substandard or non-existent. It wasn't real that black folks with degrees had to work as Pulman porters or as jantiors. It was all communist propaganda
[quote]who is in power to make these rules? What if these rules repress African Americans (as have historically done)?[/quote]
Isn't that how it USUALLY WORKS?
However RACE and SEXUALITY are very, very different issues.
As we see in Uganda - Black Africans (or at least a faction of them) have a particular position on homosexuality within their country.
[quote]
Rules of civilization speaks to rules created by those in power. That is a slippery slope my friend.[/quote]
Actually........NO.
No its not a "slippery slope".
That society that you speak of needs to have a construct by which everyone has some INALIENABLE RIGHTS and thus they don't have a pure "Might Makes Right" ethos.
But again - this is very different than your "slippery slope" claim.
I am far more fearful of an ethos which ATTEMPTS TO eliminate all "discrimination", abandoning any notion of the FUNCTIONAL OUTCOMES that certain social and cultural admonitions have.
ANARCHY is the state of NO DISCRIMINATION.
Up here in the frozen North, helping my elderly mom who fell on the ice and broke her wrist.
It's the "great white North" in ALL ways --- have yet to see any person of any color.
Interestingly, the lead story in the local weekend paper is the beginning of a multi-part story about funding in education, and the disparity between "rich" school districts and "poor" districts, and if poor kids from low income school districts really do have an "equal opportunity".
Same issues we debate but skin color isn't a factor here ....but it sure is a good "distractor" for a divide-and-conquer strategy.
Filled Negro has the funniest people on the Internet assembled in one place!!! :-)
Alicia Banks - (you know I love you girl). If there is one thing I seek to avoid is being the target of your machine gun attacks via your postings. :-)
I realize that with you - on the issue of the wholesale "acceptance" of same sex relationships as 100% "equal" as those of heterosexual......a COMPROMISE by you would mean that you COMPROMISE who you are.
I respect that about you.
From my position - I believe that EVERY SOCIETY has the MANDATE to consider its functional outcomes and then MANAGE the human resources within to produce the type of outcomes that they desire.
I make no bones about it - the liberal who prides himself that he has "NEVER DISCRIMINATED AGAINST ANYONE" will always be more popular than me. The flaw is, however, he will never stand next to the "baby that he birthed" and admit that in his libertine orientation HE should be held responsible for the outcomes - UNINTENTIONED as well as intentioned.
While I do agree that "Sexuality" is different from "Gender Roles" it is true that 'CULTURAL/SOCIETAL STRICTURES" can't all be whittled down to RIGHTS.
I will fully admit to you AB that this is a STRUGGLE OF ATTRITION. At some point the 51 percent "reconciliation" vote is going to have your relationship 100% EQUAL UNDER THE LAW.
As it stands as well there are going to be people who REJECT this notion AND......maybe use this as one more example as the reason that they must separate from the body of law that advances this view.
This Earth has an abundance of examples of people who have DEPARTED established nations for the purposes of establishing a new colony of people who share views that go awry of the prevailing standard. It is THEY who exit and build from scratch more commonly than do the "social libertine" choose to exit.
I have no "magic Jesus" / "you will burn in hell" in my consciousness.
I do believe, however, that beyond a certain point those who seek to CONSERVE the set of cultural and societal rules to their liking are the one's who will need to set out and create this vision.
(With my good friend Mellaneous - he chooses to create this 'new world' via the BEAST that he resides within that runs so counter to his continence.
[quote]Interestingly, the lead story in the local weekend paper is the beginning of a multi-part story about funding in education, and the disparity between "rich" school districts and "poor" districts, and if poor kids from low income school districts really do have an "equal opportunity".[/quote]
KAREN:
When the forces IN POWER in these "poor school districts" TOOK OVER - did YOU, Filled Negro or any one else VOTE FOR THEM with the CONDITION that THEY (and you) would now be responsible for insuring that the people who are living in the district are SUFFICIENTLY PRODUCTIVE to FUND THE SCHOOLS to their liking?
In summary - if a county and city is basically a FRANCHISE of the state - where it is allowed to collect tax money that would have otherwise gone to the state so that this new franchise could deliver the basic services to the people - WHEN THE FRANCHISE is no longer solvent and competent enough to do so - WHY aren't we talking about DISSOLUTION or de-INCORPORATION?
Instead it seems that the LOCAL POWERS retain their seats - lean upon the STATE (or feds) for money and then they get to talk about how WONDERFUL they are to have secured the money.
What exactly is the benefit of these local franchises Karen if ultimately we are a NATIONALZIED system and they are merely used for REDISTRIBUTION instead of PRODUCTION?
CF:
Once again, your "feedback" is hardly "Constructive".
No, I didn't vote for them, since I don't live here. I'm visiting.
And I have long stated my opposition to the way public schools are funded, and the inherent inequities of the property tax levy system.
The issue is socio-economic -- not just one of funding.
Washingtonian Magazine's March 2010 issue has a very good article about a non-profit in Maryland that works with teens from the Juvenile Justice system to teach them life skills and to help set them on the right path in life.
The article is called,
"Saving Isaiah" :
At 17, he’s lost his parents and has been in jail on drug charges. But now he’s a high-school football player, has a nice apartment, and wants to go to college. Here’s the story of how Isaiah and kids like him are learning to be adults—and the people helping them get there. By Cindy Rich.
The stories profiled could be children of any color, but in this case, the kids in the story are black, and their personal histories are gut-wrenching.
These children are emotionally fragile and deeply wounded. "Solving" their problems is much, much more than access to new computers and textbooks. It's about healing, and stopping the cycle of poverty, violence and hopelessness that many of these children are born into.
My parents next door neighbors here adopted a young brother and sister who lost their mom to drugs, dad had no interest in them, and were failing in school, acting out, etc. They came from a multi-generational alcohol and welfare dependent family.
Adopted into a stable, loving home, these kids are doing great. Both are on the Honor Roll at school, and have a bright future. It's just very sad that their biological family couldn't be "saved" and the basis of a healthy environment for them to go up in.
Stopping the cycle involves not only money, but having the courage to confront the emotional issues that lie underneath it all.
I am so late to this discussion. But I will add that the citizens of Mississippi passed a Constitutional amendment a few years ago 2004, I think, that stated clearly that marriage is between a man and a woman. MOST states have this and the VOTERS put these laws on the books because it represents their sense of morality. I think what the school district did was very, very fair. The community in which the girl resides has made it very clear what their opinions are about her lifestyle. We cannot have it both ways if we want the voice of the people to be heard. If the people vote that marriage is between a man and a woman, then our democratic republic must respect the will of the people.
I suspect that if the school authorities allowed the dance, they'd have a major backlash because it is so against the moral fiber of their community. They'd likely be getting sued by Christian and family groups. By cancelling the prom altogether, they were trying to cover their asses. It's a shame when the ACLU tries to change the minds of the actual VOTERS and CITIZENS of a state. In California, where I live, I got so sick and tired of gays bashing on Black people for supporting Prop 8. Again, the will of the people MUST be respected in a democratic republic. As soon as authorities and the judicial system begins to circumvent the WILL of the people, hell will break loose and this is what we're seeing right now.
DO I think that MS is a highly discriminatory state? Of course, but it is not the job of a school to disrupt and distract the citizens of the community; it is the job of the school to educate students from the community...
If the people vote that marriage is between a man and a woman, then our democratic republic must respect the will of the people.
CIVIL RIGHTS DO NOT NEED TO BE VOTED UPON BY PEOPLE...THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN!!
Again, the will of the people MUST be respected in a democratic republic.
And if the will of the community is to not allow inter racial marriages, that is peachy right?
Yes, on issues that are not CIVIL RIGHTS!!!!
Rmaiden,
You are a dumb ass. The will of the people used to be to whip nigger ass, burn them, and put them to work.
@MELL:
When I posted the link about the settlement for ripping off the black community on mortgage loan origination fees, etc, the other point I wanted to make was that the Credit Reporting/FICO score algorithm is totally gamed as well, so that certain groups "can't" achieve a high enough score to qualify for the best rates. There's alot of money to be made in subprime, and alot of vested interest in keeping "certain" markets subprime, whether it's for home loans, car loans, student loans, credit cards, etc...
Keep your eyes peeled for that to come out in the press, and then get conveniently ignored.
M. Rigmaiden-"I am so late to this discussion. But I will add that the citizens of Mississippi passed a Constitutional amendment a few years ago 2004, I think, that stated clearly that marriage is between a man and a woman. MOST states have this and the VOTERS put these laws on the books because it represents their sense of morality. I think what the school district did was very, very fair. The community in which the girl resides has made it very clear what their opinions are about her lifestyle. We cannot have it both ways if we want the voice of the people to be heard. If the people vote that marriage is between a man and a woman, then our democratic republic must respect the will of the people."
I agree and am glad you showed up for the discussion. It's always puzzling how the will of the people only cuts one way...the way a group thinks and feels the way things 'should' be in 'their minds.'
Any dumb ass would know that in MS the will of the people prevails. It is a very conservative Christian based state where homosexual way of living is not accepted. until that changes, the people will prevail.
That is, until the liberal progressives and GBLT take over the country and force people to do things their way.
assnons use the power of the state to outlaw gays and make their homohating religions law!!!
assnons want the power of the state ONLY in gay bedrooms!!!
polygamy and incest are condoned in the bible and legal in some states!!!
http://www.queerty.com/and-what-fraction-of-these-cousin-marrying-states-allow-gay-marriage-20091229/
http://www.queerty.com/nc-police-revive-sodomy-law-in-weekend-arrest-20080527/
http://www.queerty.com/gay-couples-not-the-same-as-incestuous-couples-declares-new-yorks-top-court-20091119/
assnons pretend the the will of the people did not also condone slavery and lynchings and burning females called witches once too
___
mr
u r dead wrong!
black h8 did blackout prop 8
did u think ms schools were so cool and defend them so when they canceled proms so niggers like YOU could not dance with their white kids????
same sin now!!!
shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cf:
mlk had the same vested interest in seeing that blacks were free too
glad he did!
i despise niggers who pretend that "legal" and "majority" have ever made anything right/just/moral in america!!!
gaybasing niggers/assnons need to outlawd!!!!
thank god for mlk and his vested interests!!!
"An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law.
There comes a time when the cup of endurance runs over, and men are no longer willing to be plunged into the abyss of despair. I hope, sirs, you can understand our legitimate and unavoidable impatience. You express a great deal of anxiety over our willingness to break laws. This is certainly a legitimate concern. Since we so diligently urge people to obey the Supreme Court's decision of 1954 outlawing segregation in the public schools, at first glance it may seem rather paradoxical for us consciously to break laws. One may well ask: "How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?" The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that "an unjust law is no law at all."
We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal" and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was "illegal." It was "illegal" to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler's Germany. Even so, I am sure that, had I lived in Germany at the time, I would have aided and comforted my Jewish brothers. If today I lived in a Communist country where certain principles dear to the Christian faith are suppressed, I would openly advocate disobeying that country's antireligious laws."
Martin Luther King, Jr.
The majority has not "right" to vote away the rights of the minority.
All people created equal...life liberty pursuit of happiness...oh just for some I guess, not all cause the culture of the area may not value those rights..
mellaneous "Actually I asked God if he would forgive yours, since you are the most selfish ,jealous, hypocritical, lustful, envious, prevaricating, homophobic, gay hating, black, brown, yellow red folk hating,women hating, working folks hating, poor folk hating, third world hating, and humanity hating person on this blog."
there you go again, calling people names, but lack awareness of it. This time you have used every name in the book in one sentence. You must REALLY be disturbed 'inside' with self-pity.
Be truthful: Are you REALLY a Christian-and do you REALLY preach to a congregation on Sunday?
How do you justify, rationalize and reconcile that with Christ and yourself?
the poster
any nigger who can remember the little rock 9/ruby bridges/emmet till/slavery and then condone what is happening to these 2 lesbians is a demonic mf with no soul!!!!
fuck all of u/your law/& u your god
u soulless brainless heartless mfs!!!
Great quote from MLKJr. AB, if a black person advocates discrimination because it is the "will of the community" then that nigger can rot.
assnons believe that slavery was cool because it was the will of the people!!!
i wish i could chain u mfs up right now and whip your asses like toby!!!
everything that every silly black gaybashing mf says about gays today is exactly what the kkk said about rose/mlk/naacp once...verbatim!!!
massa sure has taught u stupid niggers so very well!!
Damn, you be rippin' Rigmaiden up now. Read her post, not too sharp that tac is.
@Rigmaiden:
"VOTERS put these laws on the books because it represents their sense of morality."
I think that this comment does strike to the heart of the matter.
It presumes that gays can never lead a moral life. Or have stable, loving partnerships.
There are ample cases in the media of "less than moral" heteros -- Tiger, Edwards, Spitzer .... the list goes on and on.
I'm not threatened by a homosexual couple that are "moral" and lead their lives with quiet dignity. Since homosexuality is present in approximately 10% of all mammal populations, pretending otherwise demonstrates ignorance and fear.
Personally, I don't care if a couple are gay or straight -- as long as I don't have to witness overt sexual acts in public. Watching a straight couple make out and behavior in a flagrantly overt manner is just as offensive.
So, I agree with you that the issue is one of "morality" -- if I'm at the grocery store with my 12 year old buying toilet paper, I don't want to see behavior or dress that I would tolerate in a nightclub.
It's a shame that assuaging some people's fears and anxieties trumps allow gay people the right to be true to themselves and who they need to be.
Being gay isn't a communicable disease. It's a part of the human condition. Except in Iran, where they don't have any gays -- because they torture and kill them. The people of Mississippi should pat themselves on the back for being morally aligned with the Ayatollahs. Way to Go!
this documentary PROVES that gay is the new black as these wfs are being treated the exact same way for the same reason!
outlaw hate!!!!
http://www.promnightinmississippi.com/
Individual rights are not subject to a public vote; a majority has no right to vote away the rights of a minority; the political function of rights is precisely to protect minorities from oppression by majorities (and the smallest minority on earth is the individual).
Ayn Rand
karen ditto
ps:
watch tv or read a mag
count how mant overt hets u see
i am no more offended by any similar images of hets
which generally do nto even exist!!!
see the pat parker poem above
NOTHING is as pervasive and overt as het sex
u will get used to it just as we gays have
fyi
gwb began an illegal war in iraq due to his own sense of morality too...
i better never catch a mf who loves ms schools dissing gwb ever again!!!!
bet!!!
RM
Have you know knowledge of the founding fathers and their desire to protect people from the Tyranny of the Majority?
racist whites are pissed about obama as prez
what if they repeal the voting rights act of 1965???
if they do so, mindless mfs who post bs about the will of the people and morality via laws better not say a peep when their gaybashing blacks asses can no longer cast a vote!!!!
the will of the people once nullified obama and every black gaybasher who voted for his dl ass too!!!
http://www.justice.gov/crt/voting/intro/intro_b.php
anon:
rm IS the new tyrannical majority!!!
so she could not care less...
anon:
ditto
love that ar quote!
but the amerikkkan way is the reverse ...and homohating niggers are the new nazis!!!
I was wondering when the fireworks would start. Yes the response to my statement was expected and filled with the self same vitriol often spewed towards those who are different in a society.
I find it interesting how in one moment the majority argument can be used to justify many of the causes you champion, but in another breath a majority vote is seen as a tool of oppression.
Think of California medicinal marijuana. Many of you are for it and say that the voters approved it so don't disenfranchise them. But you aren't applying that same reasoning to the current discussion. Why?
MARRIAGE is a states right issue. The states truly DO have a right via their voters to decide how marriage is defined in their state. In a democratic republic the majority wins when an issue is put to a vote. Bottom line.
This system of governance also has checks and balances so that the rights of minorities are not trampled upon.
At the crux of this issue is whether or not gays constitute a protected minority status. In my state, gays can have civil ceremonies and locales honor the union OR not. However, not all states afford homosexuals these protections. Whether or not they should be set in another category and deemed as a minority is up to the people of the state in which they reside. This is the design of a democratic republic.
The slavery comparison is erroneous and built upon faulty reasoning.
Being Black is a discernable characteristic. Being gay is not. Ask yourself how many white slave owners beat the shit out of their slaves because they were legally allowed to do so. This gay being the new Black is out of line and attempts to place a group of people as protected minorities because of their sexual practices. That is absurd.
Do you really think you should be considered a constitutionally protected minority because of how you have sex? Think about it and get back to me. Frankly that is what it boils down to; people fucking a certain way and then wanting recognition from society that the majority accepts their lifestyle. I am all for grown folks living their lives. But what I don't like is when my vote is shit upon because it isn't in line with some demogouges' view of the world.
Alicia if you keep acting crazy like this, you will lose any support you could have garnered in the het world.
AB:
Every community has a group that brings shame to them and acts well outside the norms, and then are held up as a "reason" why oppression of that group is moral and just.
Unfortunately, for the gay community, it's events like the Folsom St or Up Your Alley fairs in San Fran that haters love to point to and use to paint an entire group of people with.
Stereotyping is never, ever cool.
Which is why queer blacks have to be BOLD. While hetero blacks have been able to remove some of the shackles, we have not...
Anonymous said...
"The majority has not "right" to vote away the rights of the minority."
You do not know the diffence between a right and a privelege.
mellaneous said,
"-On this board I am simply offering my objections to the things that are said.
-You disagree with me you don't think God really has a preference for the poor and oppressed and that God really does favor those who find themselves in awful conditions through no fault of their own."
It sure sounds like you are "judging" to me. Shall I quote Matthew 7:1-6 again? I quoted scripture to you because, being a preacher myself, I thought you would appreciate the reminder. Obviously not. Btw, I don't know what you are talking about regarding God and the poor. I think once again, you are projecting your own judgment but you are unconscious of it.
What book do you use as a guide in your life? -"The Self-Centered Book of Mellaneous"? Well, you can't get to God with that 'little' book.
And all of your ranting, raving and name calling only shows you have no business criticizing CF and all the anons on this blog because it is your own rants that are overreactions to your own inner screams, which are made quite visible on this blog.
I will pray for you.
the poster
gaybashing assnons/niggers disgrace mlk and coretta who fought for gays!
so does their closet dyke daughter bernice!!!
great speech here by julian bond as he laments how unfair it is for all the gays who helped blacks, now that blacks say we will not help u!!!
shame!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de05ffd3860d.html
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bernice and eddie long are dl demons!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/shaming-the-kings-again---bernice-king-pretender-to-their-throne.html
http://rodonline.typepad.com/rodonline/2009/04/recession-forces-antigay-bishop-eddie-long-to-downsize-easter-service.html
alicia banks said...
"racist whites are pissed about obama as prez
what if they repeal the voting rights act of 1965???"
Crazy, paranoid and stupid. As stupid as Whoopi Fucking Goldberg. Your (and everyone else's) right to vote is not depedent on the voting Rights Act; it is guaranteed in the Constitution.
rm:
vitriol begets vitriol you dirty bitch!
any avg klansman could have penned all of your posts verbatim!
u r dead wrong!!!!!!!
legal hate is still wrong!!!
willfful valued hate is still wrong!!
Karen, NO NO NO. Notice that I said the voters voted according to THEIR sense of morality. You seem to think that I am advocating how they voted. This is incorrect. I am simply stating the obvious; people vote in a democratic republic and if they don't want to feel disenfranchised then governments need to follow the will of the people.
Another thing I should point out is that regarding HUMAN rights issues,slavery was incompatible with the creed of liberty and justice for all and those who advocated it were fucked up hypocrites.
But calling someone three fifths of a person is a far cry from stating who can get married and who cannot get married. All societies place value on the institution of marriage and define it according to mores, customs etc. In some societies same sex marriage or unions are acceptable and consistent with the WILL of the people in how marriage is defined. If the ACLU has their way in good ole Mississippi, I fear there will be hell to pay on many fronts. Leastaways the fact that the majority of those folks in the Bible belt feel just as strongly in their views as our friend Ms. Banks feels about her views. Can you say cede from the union...?
I have homosexuals in my family and circle of friends who are likely laughing at the hate that Ms. Banks has directed my way. NO matter though. I can easily laugh at this stuff too.
@Rigmaiden:
What about women's rights? In many muslim countries, the "majority" has decided that it's okay to stone women for alleged adultery -- young rape victims have been killed -- not to mention "honor" killings of women that have occurred here in the US and Canada. Or the husband who ran a muslim TV station who beheaded his wife, here in the US.
We all have the right to dignity and to be who we need to be -- and there are almost endless ways in which the "moral majority" oppress and diminish those who don't fit into their viewpoint of what is "moral".
assnons seek to ammend the constitution against gays daily!!!
newsflash mf:
that same constitution that can be altered to outlaw my marriage can do the same for your vote nigger!!!
Mellaneous:
What you preach is not Chrisitanity; it is Moonbattery. You are disciple of hate, not love.
Dirty bitch? Poor thing Alicia you forgot to take your meds today. Why don't you take a break from the computer screen, get a drink of ice water and take your meds Hon. They might cool you off.
Oh wait, passing pearls to swine has always been one of my failings...Tsk Tsk
RM
Fucking retarded. So many things wrong with your post.
1) It's not about sex. How much time during the week do you spend sexing???? Same for homos or heteros. Period. It's very little of who anyone really is.
2)I find it interesting how in one moment the majority argument can be used to justify many of the causes you champion, but in another breath a majority vote is seen as a tool of oppression. LIKE WHAT???
3) There is a distinct separation between church and state, EVERY STATE.
4) n a democratic republic the majority wins when an issue is put to a vote. Bottom line Voters cannot vote away civil rights. It is unconstitutional.
5)Black is out of line and attempts to place a group of people as protected minorities because of their sexual practices. That is absurd. This again, shows your fucking ignorance. YOU SEE SEX....wake up, sex is a small fraction of the equation idiot.
6) Repeat, it's not about fucking. I feel like I am talking to a redneck here.
7) AB (I surmise) does not need the type of support you offer. Reminds me of someone I know, will support black rights, as long someone doesn't act too black (rap music, sagging pants, bling etc.).
Keep it bitch.
mr
u r a 2 faced gaybashing bitch talking out of both sides of your mouth
condoning hateful laws/values = condoing hatred!!!
please run and tell you kin i said so
read you own posts and u will see that!
Karen said...
@Rigmaiden:
"What about women's rights? In many muslim countries, the "majority" has decided that it's okay to stone women for alleged adultery -- young rape victims have been killed -- not to mention "honor" killings of women that have occurred here in the US and Canada. Or the husband who ran a muslim TV station who beheaded his wife, here in the US"
That is life under Sharia. Here we live under the Constitution, as long as we can keep it.
mr:
u drink water
with arsenic
fuck u
or better yet
swig on a big iced glass of that piss u r calling rain herein
anon:
ditto
tehre is no end to legal hatred
and unjust laws are always injustice!
period!!!
I have homosexuals in my family and circle of friends who are likely laughing at the hate that Ms. Banks has directed my way. NO matter though. I can easily laugh at this stuff too
SURE you do...and that's like my white neighbor who is not racist, he has "lots of black friends".
@Rigmaiden:
"Another thing I should point out is that regarding HUMAN rights issues,slavery was incompatible with the creed of liberty and justice for all and those who advocated it were fucked up hypocrites."
Agreed.
I just think that we all still have alot of work to do.
Women and gays still haven't been fully emancipated.
To me, it is an issue well beyond just Prop 8.
Re: AB. You have to understand that this is an issue for her that is deeply personal and intense. She deals with anti-gay bigotry every day of her life. So of course it's going to make her a little crazy.
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