Today was just another day here in A-merry-ca. Or was it? I mean the iPad is here. (Color me not impressed, I still like to turn the pages when I read.) Our first black prez decided to go all Sista Souljah on environmentalist and drill for black gold. And, Catholics all across A-merry-ca are having a crisis of faith for obvious reasons. (Well, most Catholics. The ones with a conscience. The other ones....not so much. )
Anywhooo, tonight I want to talk about Chris Rock.
Seems a video of my man spoofing white folks has surfaced and A-merry-ca is not too pleased.
"They say it's only racist if it's not funny, so is the previously unreleased video for "Crackers," Chris Rock's white-bashing spoof of OutKast's "Hey Ya," a case of beats for the bigoted?In what is sure to spark debate over the thin line between racism and comedy, Rock's version is called "Crackers," a not-so subtle reference to Caucasians. In the four minute clip.."
Oh ohh Chris, don't you have a new movie coming out? This is not a good time to be controversial in A-merry-ca. Nothing says sure to be broke more than a controversial Negro in A-merry-ca.
Anyway, judge for yourselves. I really need to hear from you white folks on this one. You tell us if you find it offensive. I already know what you Negroes are going to say. Double standard?
Before I go, I want to thank you all for the e-mails and comments you sent my way about the comments section on the blog. Some of it was heartfelt and sincere, and some of it was the usual "field Negro I wish you would die" type shit. I want you all to know that I heard you loud and clear and I appreciate the feedback. Thank you.
Alicia, you did much better today. :)
242 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 242 of 242UTS, "And before somebody goes the "you must be gay" route, let me say that I am a heterosexual black male born and raised in the inner city."
I believe you. However, you definitely have not served or "lived" in the military. You cannot equate your experience to imagining what its like in the military. You brush aside human feelings such as fear or revulsion as irrelevant. They are not. Feelings make us human. If you consider it unimportant then there is no reason not to have men and women shower and bunk together. According to your logic, any feelings are a personal problem, right?
I know from direct observation what it can do to men in the military. You obviously don't know the culture of the military and what war and death are like.
Your ignoring my question, intentionally or unintentionally, proves it.
UptownSteve said:
And as a teenager and young adult, although I was never a hater, I did make fun of effeminate men and used the "f" word profusely as an insult.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Imagine if a someone called you a "n" word and said they weren't a hater.
Yet you want us to believe you used the word "profusely" and weren't a hater.
AB, "and please do not give up on millions of silent blacks who DO see that hobama is a blackish clone of gwb!
they just fear the same rejection and slaughter by hobama nazis that germans who hid jews felt....shame!!!"
has it occurred to you and Karen that maybe you 'might' be wrong about Obama?
anon:
no
i am just as 100% certain about hobama as i was about his clone king shrub
see more here:
http://blackagendareport.com/
"Didn't democrats also lie us into war? Google "Saddam Hussein certainly has chemical and biological weapons. There's no question about that."
Why do you refuse to accept the facts that the leaders of both parties lied us into war?"
We know Saddam had chemical and biological weapons.
Bush Sr. had the bill of sale.
But the Bushies claimed that Saddam had a lab with yellowcake plutonium and NUKES which posed an immediate threat to the globe.
That was clearly a lie and it came from the Bush Administration and nowhere else.
anon:
"I know from direct observation what it can do to men in the military. You obviously don't know the culture of the military and what war and death are like."
i DO know many gay soldiers INITMATELY...some who are even out inside the military...
they are ex lovers and intimate friends
and i know that the ONLY military men who fear gays are the same het male soldiers that het female solders fear!
http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/421/index.html
"Imagine if a someone called you a "n" word and said they weren't a hater.
Yet you want us to believe you used the word "profusely" and weren't a hater."
Maybe I was, but I'm not now.
It's called growing up.
You should try it, child.
yeah uptownsteven but congress declared war under duress
tru but if any 1 there had any sense they wld not have approved a war no matter what intelligence said
war is bad
we still suffer in thailand and laos due to shit the americans left from vietnam notably the landmines disabling folks to dis day
real motha fuckin talk
american white men done some evil shit where im from in all my famly tree
war is evil upsteven and i dont support no1 who gets down wit war mongers
they got us hatin on arabs and killin innocent women and childrn out there and for what?
so some white man can get richer
fuck dat shit
fuck all those wars
if any of those politicians had a heart they would not voted for war at all
uptownsteve said...
"If you were a heterosexual male in the military, would you enjoy showering next to a guy who you knew got a kick out of sucking dick?"
If you were ever in the military, or a member of fitness club for that matter, chances are that you already have"
I'm guessing you had some pretty hot encounters in the Coast Guard.
"And before somebody goes the "you must be gay" route, let me say that I am a heterosexual black male born and raised in the inner city."
OK...Methinks you doth protest too much.
It's OK Uptown.
That was clearly a lie and it came from the Bush Administration and nowhere else.
Can you name the democrats that said-
1. "As a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, I firmly believe that the issue of Iraq is not about politics. It's about national security. We know that for at least 20 years, Saddam Hussein has obsessively sought weapons of mass destruction through every means available. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons today. He has used them in the past, and he is doing everything he can to build more."
2. "Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price."
3. "My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. I'm a co-sponsor of the bipartisan Resolution that's presently under consideration in the Senate. Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave threat to America and our allies.
What do you know aboout the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 that says- "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."
Anonymous,
"You cannot equate your experience to imagining what its like in the military. You brush aside human feelings such as fear or revulsion."
I WAS IN THE FREAKIN' MILITARY FOR 7 YEARS.
Spent a year assigned to 378 foot cutter that had 4 man berthing areas the size of utility closets.
Don't tell me I don't know.
It just wasn't an issue for me.
You know what they say.
The ones who are the most paranoid about gays are the ones who are unsure of their own sexuality.
wow uts!
"The ones who are the most paranoid about gays are the ones who are unsure of their own sexuality."
always!!!
without exception!!!
http://www.outragethemovie.com/
cc that to aperpetuallyparanoidpervoi!!!!!!
AB
"wow uts:
ditto
thanks"
No problem AB.
How the hell can you hate someone simply for whom they choose to love?
uts:
i truly have no idea
except that for us homos, haters only see our sex...they are 100% blind to our true love
in a world filled with hatred and orphans and pedophiles, it is truly mind boggling when haters outlaw and demonize true love between consenting adults who are superior parents who happen to be gay!
shame!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de047b8c860d.html
uts:
see more on our ignored love:
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123ddf0fd61860b.html
"The double standard still stands tho' ...if this was a SNL skit, Sharpton and his posse would be foaming at the mouth"
Not a perfect 1 to 1 comparison, but the Eddie Murphy "Kill all the white people" sketch and "Hymietown" sketches approached the same sort of issues. Somehow we managed to survive that. And Jackson was the target of the "Hymietown sketch.
So you're kind of off base here
I am a white chick and that sh*t was funny!
Steve:
I am far more accepting of the truth behind editorial cartoonist Thomas Nast and his work over 100 years ago entitled "The Ignorant Vote". It shows that both WHITE and BLACK are equally triggered by the issues that you list.
[quote]What they will never admit to is that today's Republican party is grounded in white resentment.[/quote]
I seems strange that YOU can't see that the BQPFRC is also driven by RESENTMENT. This is way you are able to look past the failures of "Local Democrats" as you keep fighting against "National Republicans".
[quote]
Exactly why you didn't hear shit from tea partiers when Bush expanded Medicare, blew up the federal deficit and got us into the invasion and occupation of Iraq with an outright lie.[/quote]
Steve: WHERE ARE THE ANTI-BUSH-WAR PROTESTERS NOW?
Cindy Shehan has a tent city on the National Mall TO-DAMNED-DAY. Are YOU going to join her? Do you think that Jesse Jackson would dare be seen TO-DAMNED-DAY in an ANTI-WAR PROTEST against Obama as he embraces Shehan?
[quote]
They're hysterical because a black man is in the White House.[/quote]
NO.
What is HYSTERICAL is to LOOK BACK at how YOU thought that with a BLACK MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE that your check had finally come in.
What is HYSTERICAL is that if John McCain was in the seat AND the Black Unemployment rate was 16.3% YOU WOULD BE HAVING A MARCH ON WASHINGTON.
The hysteria is that when the great A Philip Randolph threatened to have a MARCH ON WASHINGTON he met with Roosevelt who talked him out of it. TODAY it was AL SHARPTON who told the BLACKS TO CHILL on behalf of the BLACK PRESIDENT. Don't ATTACK the President, bothering him with you PERMANENT INTERESTS Tavis!!!!
[quote]
That's why they say that "their country" has been taken and they're going to get it back even if takes some killing in the process.[/quote]
Steve - do do a Amazon search on Carville and Bagalla and tell me WHAT THE TITLE OF THEIR BOOK WAS just a few short years ago. WHY is it that when these WHITE FOLKS said the SAME DAMNED THING you were not frightened?
You are a FRAUD.
[quote]
And black conservativism is grounded in self-hatred.[/quote]
For me - my Black Conservatorship is grounded in refusing to TRY HARDER, being silent just to GET IN AND FIT IN.
[quote]
Which is why they will never attract more than the 8% of the handkerchief heads and buckdancers they've had for 40 years.[/quote]
AGAIN. It is hard to take you seriously.
You look at the "Sellouts" but not those who PUT THE PRESENT ESTABLISHMENT IN over:
* Philly
* Cleveland
* Camden
* Newark
* Birmingham
* Detroit
* Rochester
* Buffalo
Despite the fact that Buffalo has the HIGHEST BLACK MALE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN THE NATION.....White Bowie Steve is happy because the DEMOCRATS run the city.
Shamefully we see than with them in control his real PERMANENT INTERESTS have indeed been met.
"How the hell can you hate someone simply for whom they choose to love?"
no one is talking about hate. we are talking about men who like men. No het wants to be showering or bunking with gays who like men.
Gay men should not be in male quarters, they should be in WAC barracks. That is the right thing to do.
uptownsteve- "The ones who are the most paranoid about gays are the ones who are unsure of their own sexuality."
does the same principle apply to Blacks like you who are paranoid about Whites? are you unsure of your own racial heritage?
why do they call you "white" bowiesteve? you don't want to be black?
That was hilarious field...
not as funny as that Martin Lucifer King cartoon I drew in 6th grade...you know, the kind you could draw down in the corner of the pages of your school books..flip em real fast and you'd see his head explode:)
and am I the only one who thinks Chris Rock looks like Sadam Husseins lost son???
Y'all might not be able to figure out higher math, but noone does comedy like a Nigger...who do we have???Dane Cook????
Frank
"But then again, it's pretty self-evident the black grievance community has no intention of living up to the standards of conduct they themselves set."
This is what I was going to respond to but it looks like K-Street Karen has taken her tea bags and gone home.
I interact with loads of socially conservative whites in my professional capacity. Due to my white skin, many of them will say things to me that they wouldn't say to many of the regular commenters on this site. So, Karen, if you think a "grievance community" is unique to blacks, well then you haven't been listening.
Colour me not surprised.
Thanks Gregory.
AB, you did well again today. Just keep fighting the urge.
[quote]not as funny as that Martin Lucifer King cartoon I drew in 6th grade[/quote]
Frank:
What in particular is motivating you to diss a "Man of God" in this way?
While I hardly believe that Dr King is "off limits" as some do - the exception that I take is in regards to him as a Christian preacher that you could cast him as such.
What's the point?
Do you want your lunch counters back or something?
[quote]Due to my white skin, many of them will say things to me that they wouldn't say to many of the regular commenters on this site. /quote]
Gregory:
Do you think that this tendency is unique to White bigots?
What say you about Black folks with formal or informal power plotting to get a BLACK FACE elected, the assumption being that the person's skin color is the primary qualification for the position?
4 Teens Murdered as 9 People Sprayed With Automatic Machine Gun Fire In Washington DC
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0310/721242.html
These stories are not brought to the forefront by WhiteBowieSteve, Low & Country and Filled Negro.
By bringing them forward you risk be called a "Black Self-Hater".
For some reason the KILLER STREET PIRATES are never labeled as such.
Instead it is SOCIETY which made them into killers.
Karen,
"But then again, it's pretty self-evident the black grievance community has no intention of living up to the standards of conduct they themselves set."
This coming from a charter member of the white grievance community.
You gotta luv righties.
CF
Will you stop this nonsense?
I am appalled by this kind of carnage, especially since I have a good friend who moved from Maryland into a gated community right there on Atlantic Ave where the killings took place.
I want those murderers punished in the most harsh way.
People in the DC area of all stripes are outraged by the violence.
What do you want man?
"By bringing them forward you risk be called a "Black Self-Hater".
For some reason the KILLER STREET PIRATES are never labeled as such.
Instead it is SOCIETY which made them into killers."
What do you think made them killers?
Liberal policies?
You're a strange dude.
[quote]What do you want man?
[/quote]
WhiteBowieSteve:
1) I want the same PASSION shown by the Black community that would be the case if THE SHOOTER OF 9/KILLER OF 4 WERE WHITE!!! Or a Black Tea Party member!!!!
2) I want YOU and other fools who are pacified by Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann to ask: "Why do they PRETEND to care about BLACK PEOPLE per their showcasing of BLACK POVERTY in RED STATES yet they don't see the STREET PIRATE ASSAULTS as the same SYSTEMATIC and ORGANIZED intimidation threat that they do when WHITE FOLKS conspire".
3) I want YOU to say clearly that SLAVERY AND JIM CROW did not PULL THE TRIGGER on these 9 people who were shot by an Automatic Weapon - the STREET PIRATE seeking REVENGE did!!
He had NO MORE DAMNED VALUATION of the human beings that were in his RIFLE SCOPE than any Klansman ever had.
I want YOU to realize that a BULLET into the body of a Black man DOESN'T GIVE A DAMN about the race of the SHOOTER, if he was a cop or not OR what his motivations were
In summary WhiteBowieSteve:
I need for you to LIFT THE BLACK MAN UP AS AN EQUAL TO THE WHITE MAN in your own mind!!!
You want SOCIETY to prove that it thinks that we are equal.
I need YOU to prove that YOU believe that we are EQUAL in what we PROJECT into the world.
Oh, so you want to see a demonstration by blacks every time there is a street murder?
This has nothing to do with "passion" or "equality".
This is just the inane rantings of a handkerchief head who racializes crime and is on an endless mission to apologize for white racism.
'Exuse me while I barf.
"I want YOU to say clearly that SLAVERY AND JIM CROW did not PULL THE TRIGGER on these 9 people who were shot by an Automatic Weapon - the STREET PIRATE seeking REVENGE did!!.."
Well..
I will make a deal with you: I will show the same passion for that type of savage, malevolent, animalistic and ignorant behavior (which I already do, BTW.) when you start showing the same outrage over injustice racism and ignorance from the right.
Deal?
[quote]Oh, so you want to see a demonstration by blacks every time there is a street murder?[/quote]
Actually - WhiteBowieSteve:
I DON'T WANT A DEMONSTRATION.
In 2010 the Civil Rights Demonstration is merely a Philistine Ritual, void of must of its meaning. The people in the seats of power who you USED TO PROTEST AGAINST have been replaced with FAVORABLE PEOPLE IN POWER.
I want MANAGEMENT of the HUMAN RESOURCES. Per your exodus of conscious attention in the "Community Cultural Consciousness and Competency Development Domain" these young men were allowed to turn into STREET PIRATES. In their present consciousness they saw fit to SPRAY 9 PEOPLE, killing 4 as their form of LYNCHING.
This means little in the "American Political Domain" - these DEAD NEGROES will not appear on Maddow or Olbermann.
YOUR first step is to RECONNECT with your CONSCIOUSNESS.
FILLED NEGRO. DEAL.
When the WHITE RIGHT WING:
1) Cuts off a Black woman's HEAD - as has happened in the ATL last week
2) Firebombs a store in the BLACK COMMUNITY - as what happened near Morehouse and Spelman THIS WEEK
3) Fires into a crowd of Black people = hitting 9 and killing 4 as they walk from a FUNERAL
I will be OUT THERE BEFORE this carnage is posted as the headline story on YOUR BLOG. I notice that you post about about 8:30pm. I will be on the streets by 7pm when the Right Wing does this to our community.
"Cuts off a Black woman's HEAD - as has happened in the ATL last week."
Please provide a link as evidence to back up your statement above.
And I am reading what you are saying but I don't believe it. Somehow I am guessing that you would be blaming the carnage on the Black Qauasi Socialist in power allowing the white racist to come into the community to commit their crimes. Just a guess.
This statement made by someone just about sums it up. Black people think it's funny because it's true. White people do not think it's funny because it's true......
It's true,"white people" don't like being made fun of,despite what they tend to say about this on these boards. Paul Mooney hit that one on the head.
I don't think Chris has anything to worry about for now. "White folks" are going to go out of their way to show that this does not bother them and yet look for a way to get back at him sooner or later.
"Please provide a link as evidence to back up your statement above."
Field, he just made it up.
He does this all the time.
www.nightingaleforgovernor.com
Field, you are a national treasure, so as you requested, this white guy is chiming in.
Crackers! Funny, funny video. If Chris Rock hates white people, I do not see it in this video or all the times I have seen him interviewed. Maybe it is because I know that being a white male in the country is a HUGE advantage, but I am just not offended. Or maybe I am just too much of a godless socialist and I realize that if black person is pissed off about this weird, sick, and ultimately mean society, hell , I am just not going to argue against that idea. (Plus, you just have to love that hair; Makes me laugh just thinking about it.)
Happy Easter to you and yours Field. (And all you other fine Christians)
As a cracker, I wasn't offended. But that's because I'm a socialist peacenik.
I think Chris tried too hard. He mailed it in, so to speak.
Pail Mooney would have been funnier. Or if Bill Cosby had any balls, he'd be the one who should have sung this video, like when Pat Boone sang heavy metal. Chris just wasn't subtle enough, imho. It was like the black man's version of Andrew Dice Clay. Sorry, not offended but not impressed either. And I'm not saying Chris Rock is racist towards whites as Clay seemed to truly be against black folks.
I also like the rule where one needs to be part of the group to use the putdown words in question.
But if someone was to break the rule, I would have suggested the following instead of Chris. Wayne Brady would have been better. Everyone knows Chris Rock has always been out to make waves. Or maybe Tracy Morgan. He's got better timing than Chris, simply more funny. I liked Chris Rock when he first came out. But like Howard Stern, he just seemed to end up with a big ego once he became famous. Like he lost that initial humility he used to have, what I think made his schtick more effective. I've also never liked Chris Rock's voice. A bit too nasal sounding. Go with Paul Mooney or Wayne Brady next time. That's what I think. So I vote not offensive and not that funny. I guess a typical whitey blogger would say FAIL. They would say so because of their latent racism. I'm not racist, so my rejection of this is purely on an artsy critique type level.
[quote]Please provide a link as evidence to back up your statement above. [/quote]
http://www.examiner.com/x-39498-Atlanta-Crime-Examiner~y2010m3d23-Woman-found-decapitated-has-been-identified
(Fraud Assed Kneegrow Steve)
Chris Rock
House Negro Extrodinare
I guess I’ve never been a fan of Chris Rock. Perhaps it was that awful joke he told about Anita Hill during his tenure at Saturday Night Live. Or, maybe it was the comparison of white women in porn to that of black women in porn. During a segment of Weekend Update Rock asserted, “He didn’t believe Anita Hill, because she didn’t look good enough.” On another occasion, he praised the beauty of white women in Playboy- while stating that that black women, “had stretch marks and appeared to have a bullet up their ass.”
Frankly, I don’t think the man is that bright. Obviously, he has some deep seeded issues with black people. In reality, he is just another bastardized version of Richard Pryor. A self-loathing black comedian, if you will. He says exactly what Whites have been saying for 400 years; and for that they’ve dubbed him a genius. In the time of Pryor it was funny. But even he realized it wasn’t cool referring to his people as Niggers. But Rock took it to another level. It makes one question where he got the inspiration. Perhaps it was the Aryan Brotherhood or Stromfront? For, he sure sounds like a damn white supremacist to me.
Remember this from the HBO Special/1997:
1) “I am tired of niggers. I wish they would let me join the Ku Klux Klan. I'd do a drive-by from LA to Brooklyn.”
(2) “You can't have anything valuable in your house. Niggers will break in and take it all. You can't do anything without some ignorant-ass niggers fucking it up.”
(3) “Everything white people don't like about black people, black people don't like about black people. It's like our own personal civil war. On one side, there's black people. On the other, you've got niggers. The niggers have got to go. I love black people but I hate niggers. I am tired of niggers. Tired, tired, tired.”
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You’ve got to give it to the American style of oppression. Internalized racism is a bitch! Hiding behind the veil of entertainment, you have black comedians spewing racist rhetoric that would make any Grand Dragon proud. If the DSM doesn’t list it as mental illness, somebody please call Dr. Alvin Poussaint, immediately!
The fact that Rock’s Outkast parody took a slap at white folks while referring to his own people as Niggers is no comfort to me. I’m sick of the black/white paradigm in comedy. Dave Chappelle figured it out. Therefore, Chris Rock can go to Hell and take his white writers with him.
I am white and that was hilarious! And I think it's absurd to even think that anyone could be racist toward a white person, since it's 2010 and we STILL hold all the cards.
Karen you are full of SHIT with a capital S!! And if ANYBODY practices 'double standards' it's people like you who want to whine because you can dish it out but NOT take it your damnselves. Well TOUGH ROCKS BITCH it's called Karma deal with it!! As for the priests who gives a FUCK if they are gay or straight?! They ARE scum of the Earth for what they are doing to these kids and I hope some truly seriously evil shit falls on their damn heads. But of course there is ZERO attention or 'outrage' about this story while Tiger is on blast 24/7 gee wonder why THAT is! Alicia shut the FUCK up you stupid,no nothing,shithead little bitch go back to school dumbass you still got learning to do.
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