Friday, March 06, 2009

Here we go again

another case of a man killing those who were supposed to be close to him. The most recent in a growing list of heinous acts took place in Cleveland Ohio, today. (What the hell is wrong with you folks in the Buckeye state?) This animal killed his wife and four other people, --by all accounts three of them children-- and no one knows why. Now I ask you, what would lead someone to do such a despicable thing?

"It's probably one of the worst multiple shootings that I've seen in a long time," said Police Chief Michael McGrath. "I've seen a lot of previous ones, but this ranks right up there at the top."

Most of you who read this blog know that I am not religious, but I swear that there must be some new kind of evil taking hold of us. I know times are hard and the economy is in the tank, but black folks are used to dealing with hard times. Our unemployment rate of 8.1% has A-merry-cans freaking out, but that shit is the norm for us black folks. In fact, in our best year black folks didn't have those kinds of unemployment numbers. (Thanks David) So when I see Negroes freaking out like this one in Ohio, and the one out in California awhile back, I really have to wonder what the hell is going on.

What would cause a man to kill three children? Children! When did our people start killing children? Seriously, let's talk for a minute: We know that black men can do some vile inhumane shit to each other, but we have never been known to kill our young. Even the most depraved and wicked among us had some sense of honor when it came to our children. That shit is not true anymore. Now we are killing our children; our wives; our loved ones; and, yes, even ourselves. (I found this out after I started blogging this story. The animal in Ohio shot himself after being cornered by police) When brothers start taking out themselves you know that things are pretty fucked up. That is as sure a sign that the apocalypse is upon us as you will ever see.

"As they confronted him, he shot himself."

Of course he did, cowards always do.


Anonymous said...

Hello Field,

What upsets me so much about this trend is that now we have people so unhappy that they just can't commit suicide. Oh No, now they have to take family with them.

What the eff is going on? This behavior usually was reserved (stereotypically) for crazy white dudes, but you know we can't be left out of the trend, so now we are doing it too.

I swear now i'm telling all my girlfriends if their man demonstrates the symptoms of someone about to go the hell off, take the kids and leave immediately.

? said...


The economic catastrophe that has come to Cleveland came to my hometown of Youngstown twenty years. After the steel mills closed a city that had formerly been stable exploded in a wave of violence and urban decay that made it the most violent city in America by the late 1990's. This was definitely a harbinger of things to come; now places like Cleveland, Dayton, Canton etc. are rapidly collapsing. The problems of Rust Belt cities are rapidly becoming one of the most pressing problems we face.

SouthernGirl2 said...

Lord Have Mercy,

He killed those poor little innocent babies! I just couldn't believe it. He could have taken his own life and left the others alone but no, he had to kill children too. A place in hell was wating on him. May all eternity be nothing but misery for this coward piece of crap.

May those babies rest in peace

Blinders Off said...


Evil is walking around us...Lester Street Murders happened a year ago Sunday in Memphis. What this @ss did to the children he killed was horrifying.

Anonymous said...


or maybe this guy's clear mental illness went undiagnosed and untreated until it eventually became this tragedy.

Anonymous said...

Men killing their families has occured in AR maybe six times since I became an adult. A friend of mine of course choose the worst of these sites to retire at, 16 dead. Sometimes it's based on shame and sometimes it's convieniance. A couple left West Memphis to start a new life in Little Rock and drowned their two boys in a bayou of HWY 70 on the way. Appartently they were just baggage.


Anonymous said...

Dude, I don't even know what to say about this shit. It's just fucking horrible...

Ray Bridges said...

The word of the moment is "nihilism." It isn't the opposite of "God" as we think "Satan" is, but you know what? It's fucking close enough.

I'm not a philospher or a spiritual messiah or some sort, so I don't presume to preach to the masses, but it seems to me that the old gods are dead and we have been left with nothing.

I'm not challenging you Christians and Muslims out there, ... Oh hell yes, I'm challenging you. You worship the past and your gods have no power in the present. Get used to nihilism. It is the present and the future.

An interesting book for your consideration: Stand on Zanzibar. It 's a futuristic science fiction book written in 1968. One throw-a-way detail was that ever so often people went crazy and just started killing everyone around them -- too bad if it was family or friends. I believe the book is the origin of the word "bizerk." I'm not sure. I just tried Googling it, but nothing was satisfactory. In the book such people were called bizerkers.

The future is now.

ch555x said...

I can't find a woman for sh!t, but C.Brown can play Ike Turner and this knucklehead in Ohio portrays the cowardly negro w/ child-killing bonus...SMH whiplash over here!!!

field negro said...

"or maybe this guy's clear mental illness went undiagnosed and untreated until it eventually became this tragedy."

Nope, evil!

Houston, that is an interesting take on things. And I will google that book. All you god fearing folks need to pray. We need all the help we can get down here.

BO, I remember hearing about the Lester Street murders. And we had the Lex Street massacre here in Philly a few years back. You folks should google it.

Anonymous said...

There is a theory that America and the world has become so "secular" that God no longer exists in the hearts of many. When there was a God, there was a sense of human goodness, moral values, ethics, faith, Hope, know, all those noble qualities that humans use to believe in.

Without a Spiritual Reality, those noble qualities lose their significance, and there is nothing to keep humans in check. Self will runs riot. Doing evil becomes the norm among human beings.

I am not a bible reader, but I think the bible has a few stories which explains what happens to a nation when it goes primarily secular. Doubt, confusion and uncertainty moves in, and faith leaves. Earth becomes hell.

Anonymous said...

They don't make black men like they used to.

Anonymous said...

This is freaking insane!!!!!

Alarming Female said...

@ Anonymous

Without a Spiritual Reality, those noble qualities lose their significance, and there is nothing to keep humans in check. Self will runs riot. Doing evil becomes the norm among human beings.

I disagree vehemently. But Albert Einstein said it best:

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
[Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science", New York Times Magazine, 9 November 1930]

There are plenty of morally upright atheists out there.

Anonymous said...

The word that Houston saw in the book is a shifted version of berserker.

Noun 1. berserk - one of the ancient Norse warriors legendary for working themselves into a frenzy before a battle and fighting with reckless savagery and insane fury

Norse, Northman, Scandinavian - an inhabitant of Scandinavia

Adj. 1. berserk - frenzied as if possessed by a demon; "the soldier was completely amuck"; "berserk with grief"; "a berserk worker smashing windows"

I will get back to you with the info on an article in "O" about some people who are revitalizing a decaying Rust Belt city.

Anonymous said...

Alarming Female,

Einstein also said, "I want to know God's thoughts. The rest are just details." This statement came later in his life....Poor Einstein, everybody quotes him to justify their beliefs.

I don't doubt that there are 'some' atheists out there who have the moral potency to do the right thing. But 'plenty?' Come on... In any case, there ARE humans out there, who are weaker than you, who need some kind of faith to add meaning to their lives.

Carl Jung said, "I have treated many hundreds of patients. Among those in the second half of life - that is to say, over 35 - there has not been ONE whose problem in the last resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life."

Bob said...

Children can be murdered quickly or slowly. The crackheads & gangbangers kill their young slowly. & those children become the emotionally dead who kill their children.

Anonymous said...

Why is it surprising when a violent ex-con kills people, children or otherwise? A thing that's curious about this is that he spared his kids, but didn't hesitate to shoot his wives children.

Black Diaspora said...

I don't want to trivialize this heartbreaking story, but the tale of the scorpion and the frog comes to mind:

"Hellooo Mr. Frog!" called the scorpion across the water, "Would you be so kind as to give me a ride on your back across the river?"

"Well now, Mr. Scorpion! How do I know that if I try to help you, you wont try to kill me?" asked the frog hesitantly.

"Because," the scorpion replied, "If I try to kill you, then I would die too, for you see I cannot swim!"

Now this seemed to make sense to the frog. But he asked. "What about when I get close to the bank? You could still try to kill me and get back to the shore!"

"This is true," agreed the scorpion, "But then I wouldn't be able to get to the other side of the river!"

"Alright do I know you wont just wait till we get to the other side and THEN kill me?" said the frog.

"Ahh...," crooned the scorpion, "Because you see, once you've taken me to the other side of this river, I will be so grateful for your help, that it would hardly be fair to reward you with death, now would it?!"

So the frog agreed to take the scorpion across the river.

Halfway across the river, the frog suddenly felt a sharp sting in his back and, out of the corner of his eye, saw the scorpion remove his stinger from the frog's back. A deadening numbness began to creep into his limbs.

"You fool!" croaked the frog, "Now we shall both die! Why on earth did you do that?"

The scorpion shrugged, and did a little jig on the drownings frog's back.

"I could not help myself. It is my nature."

Then they both sank into the muddy waters of the swiftly flowing river.

Crawford's history should have been a red flag to any woman or man.

"Crawford was convicted in 1995 of voluntary manslaughter, according to prison records. He was released from prison in 2000 and sent back in 2002 on a felonious assault conviction involving domestic violence, according to prison records. He was freed again in 2007."

Perhaps the woman he married didn't know of his history, and I'm not sure if it would have mattered had she known.

Many women end up with these guys who are clearly antisocial, and poor choices as mates.

Jennifer Hudson's sister, Julia, married William Balfour, and we know that story.

"Balfour was was convicted in 1999 of attempted murder and hijacking of a vehicle and served seven years in prison."

Now, I'm thinking that these guys are nothing more than scorpions, and if you let them into your life, wittingly or unwittingly, thinking that they're harmless, or at the least won't hurt you because it would spell their doom as well, you, the frog, may hear the following after the scorpion's sting:

"I could not help myself. It is my nature."

Women, you can't change these violent guys, and if you're deluding yourself into thinking that you can, and if you living with one these dangerous Negroes, think again, and remember what the scorpion did to the frog.

Shady_Grady said...

Whether a person does good or evil has absolutely nothing to do with whether they believe in a supernatural being.

Moral standards are independent of religion.

It does seem as if there are starting to be more stories about black men losing it like this. As mentioned such things used to be mostly associated with white men but it looks like that was just a stereotype.

Christopher said...

Time to bring back the insane asylums and make sure cretins like this clown are locked up for the rest of their natural lives.

I'll leave the political correctness to others to paint this guy's face with cuz' I ain't buying it.

Anyone who could slaughter innocent children doesn't belong with civilized society. I don't care if he lost his job, or was called bad names in grade school or has a drug problem. He murdered three innocent children.

Lock his sorry ass up and throw away the damned key.

Anonymous said...

Words fail me, I heard about this yesterday but only read this morning that he had taken his own life. My goodness, why couldn't he just kill himself in the first place? Why take the whole family too?

No, something is wrong...very wrong. Sadly I think we will see more of these stories in the coming days.

field negro said...

Hmmm interesting discussion there about religion between Alarming Female and Anon. That seriously made me think. As someone who considers himself pretty much agnostic when it comes to these things, I am always open to hearing theories like the ones expressed up thread.

Right now I find myself in the Shady_Grady camp.

BD, thanks for the story about the Scorpion. Women please take note; there are lots of scorpions out there.

Kellybelle said...

I tried to blog about this without mentioning mental health in the Black community. But I couldn't. This could have been prevented. This man left all kind of clues that this is where he was headed--went to jail after killing a man over a woman, shot at his first wife because she didn't want to go out for his birthday. He did three stints in prison. A psychiatrist should have been in his cell 24-7, either fixing his mental or reporting to the parole board.

tjwash said...


I am not a bible reader, but I think the bible has a few stories which explains what happens to a nation when it goes primarily secular. Doubt, confusion and uncertainty moves in, and faith leaves. Earth becomes hell.

Try skimming over the first five books in the old testament. There is some seriously messed up stuff in there, that makes a guy killing himself and his kids look tame by comparison.

When there was a God, there was a sense of human goodness, moral values, ethics, faith, Hope, know, all those noble qualities that humans use to believe in.

Was this before the crusades or maybe after the Spanish inquisition? Or maybe it was between the mass burnings at the stakes of the Templar Knights because they threatened the Church's stranglehold on power and the Salem witch "trials"?

And you keep using that word secular...I don't think it means what you think you means.

Anonymous said...

classical one-nothing could be truer than your post ,outsourcing to save a few bucks in the long run the loss of our mfg base will destroy us.

Anonymous said...

Not evil but illness and calling it evil will only help it continue to go untreated.

Anonymous said...

We can hate the sin and still love the sinner, can't we? Calling anyone evil presupposes a moral superiority which none of us truly possesses. I can understand and feel the horror and outrage and the desperate search for answers to such crimes, but I have witnessed violence in my life and I know a bit about the agony within the murderer's mind.
Someday we may develop more enlightened ways to help these victims of their own minds and prevent more children, women and men from becoming their victims. At least this is my fervent hope.

Anonymous said...

Rudy said "They don't make black men like they used to"

where have they gone. Can someone tell me please so that i can check the brother out!?!!!!

I am a social worker and many of our new cases are infant children who are being abused and neglected parents are no longer waiting to finish raising their kids until they are 10. i am sick and tired of this mess!!!

Anonymous said...


I don't know where they have gone.

Some black boys are not receiving the love they require. Case in point: Just yesterday, when I went to pick up my daughter from daycare, there was one female yelling at her boy. The boy looked no older than 2.5 years. She uttered, "Damn, I am tired of telling the same shit over and over again."

For crying the fuck out loud, lady, the boy is still a toddler.

All I could do is look away and keep it moving.

Anonymous said...

Wow! What a fucking psycho...he had already served time for manslaughter in '95, and was locked up again in '02 for assault with a firearm and endangering children! Outrageous...I'm new to your blog, Field. I read a few of your posts and laughed out loud! Your sense of humor and the way you address issues is similar to mine. I recently started a new blog at I would classify myself as a "field negro" as well :-) Keep speaking!

Christopher Chambers said...

Field, on a lighter note, me and Mrs Nat Turner went to a surprise concert by your Philly Boys Hall & Oates. Ages 62 and 61 they still got it! They played for 90 minutes, all their old mega hits. Lawd. I was shocked at the number of (1) black folks and (2) young folks in the audience.

I doubt anyone will be going to see a 62 year old T-Pain (or Chris Brown LOL) in the future. Nice to see some classics are not f-d with.

Anonymous said...

BD- I've never heard that version of the story, it reminded me of my ex husband teaching me the moral about the girl who found a frozen rattlesnake in winter and warmed it up inside her jacket. When it revived it promptly bit her and as she lay dying she aked it why. The snake replied "You knew I was a snake when you picked me up, bitch." Luckily I learned about reforming bad boys within a few years, as I finally stopped feeling sorry for rattlesnakes.These kind of peopel always ahve a tragic and abused past, and they never get help for their mental and emotional problems, then they evolve into sociopaths with no ability to empathize with others, and it is evil at work in the human psyche.

Field-thought you and your readers might be interested on this link.I sent it to everyone else i know whom I thought might take a moment, who know if it is really helpful but it is less potentially useless than other internet activities.


I just signed ONE's petition calling on the African Union to keep its promise to the new unity government of Zimbabwe and I hope you will too:

The consequences of years of poor governance in Zimbabwe are poverty and disease on a tragic scale demanding a global response. Public hospitals have been without running water for months, creating a petri dish for easily preventable killers such as cholera. More than 3,000 people have died in Africa's worst cholera epidemic in 19 years. Schools have been shut down because teachers can't be paid. The agricultural sector has collapsed, half the population requires emergency food aid, and humanitarian aid groups are struggling to keep up.

Now Zimbabwe has a new unity government, but in order for it to have any chance to tackle these problems, it is going to need the African Union to do everything in its power as guarantor of the new government.

Add your name to the petition and show the African Union that the world is watching what it does in Zimbabwe:

La♥audiobooks said...

Rudy, black males have always been doing domestic violence like this. Let us not dramatize or pretend it's some new phenom. With the age of electronic media and Obamarism, more stories like this are simply getting into mainstream circulation.

"They don't make black men like they used to""

It just wasn't so economical and accessible for a negro to buy a gun with costly bullets. It seemed to have been much easier to run and abandon the family as so many of them did. Oh, and maybe that's what the mother of that 2 year old should do... run, instead of frustrating herself with the little hard headed goal blocker. Men do it all the time.

As for Crawford, this was beyond evil, and he didn't even have the courtesy to off himself like what the other damage minded animals do. It seems this particular animal had the audacity to believe he's entitled to live a life after what he did.

Anonymous said...

Christopher said: "Lock his sorry ass up and throw away the damned key."

That is after the dead bodies have hit the floor. Like Kellybelle said this can be fixed.

A persons personality is pretty well fixed at about age 5. You can be firm and not trash a 2.5 year old toodler. Only wanted babies born to grown women would made such a difference to the whole world. I am glad that there are some people that can look at them selves and say I really don't want children. I would have made a terrible young mother but I made a pretty decent older one after I grew up. (Some of us are slow...)

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

I don't like hearing or talking about these types of stories where harm is done to children. It grieves my spirit and takes a while for me to get over it.

As for the non-believers that posted their views on God, that's your free choice to believe or not believe. No one is forcing you to believe, at least, I’m definitely not, because your free choice is not mine to make. Jesus is a gentleman; therefore, I'm not trying to shove Jesus down anyone's throat. It's up to individuals whether they want to receive it or not. Therefore, anything spiritual I have to say and will say is to those who receive it. Speaking for myself, though, I choose to serve him, trust, and believe in him. Unlike non-believers and some religious fanatics I'm not gone persecute you for your beliefs. It said in the word, “Those that have ears to hear...hear”. Jesus didn’t waste his time trying to force people to believe, either, and neither will I.

The bible (word of God) is a spiritual book. It's not a man-made book with man-made thoughts. "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." In other words, only those that have his Spirit in them can perceive, detect, recognize, or comprehend it. Those who are his will know his voice. The bible is a hidden treasure, and it has a lot of symbolic and hidden meaning. That's why it’s referred to as hidden treasures.

The reason this world is in such turmoil now is because man decided he wanted to leave God out of the picture and serve Mammon. Mammon = Wealth. Just as we have history books talking about the founding fathers that people choose to worship, they also, have ancient history books that mention Jesus in it, because he did exist. When the bible speaks of leprosy, it symbolizes how sin starts and spreads. Cain killed his brother Abel and people have been killing people every since. Everything happening today was written in the bible and is coming to past.

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy. Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in diver’s places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none

Anonymous said...

(DAVON CRAWFORD ) DUH! Please don't put him up as a house negro, he hardly made human. House negros are mostly just weak and self serving, not viscously mad.

PVW said...


Rudy said "They don't make black men like they used to"

where have they gone. Can someone tell me please so that i can check the brother out!?!!!!

My reply:

Numbers of them got married a long time ago, and they are raising their children with their wives, or they are the "old heads," who raised us and our brothers, and just don't know how to explain the knuckleheads who have no clue of what their responsibilities are as grown men.

Anonymous said...


“Was this before the crusades or maybe after the Spanish inquisition? Or maybe it was between the mass burnings at the stakes of the Templar Knights because they threatened the Church's stranglehold on power and the Salem witch "trials"?”

I don’t know. Does it matter?

“And you keep using that word secular...I don't think it means what you think you means.”

Educate me. Please tell me what it means.

rainywalker said...

When someone kills his family, his children and then kills himself he needs to be brought back to life and killed again. These nut jobs have to make a statement on the news and television because they are loosers. Anyone killing like this hasn't been around for 100,000years. Humans are starting to become what they once were and its not pretty.

La♥audiobooks said...

Lady Cracker, are you in some way trying to incite that a grown male animal is the way he is because of his mother? Not while I'm visiting this blog will people like you get away with ignoran mendacities like that.

Anonymous said...

Face the harsh facts there are a large majority of black males that embrace the whole want-to-be gangsta persona. I know you’ll call me a racist or dismiss my opinion but simply read the news or drive through any majority black neighborhood. These guys walk around dressed the part listening to blaring gangsta rap and trying to act all bad. When someone says anything about it or the fact that most of them run around impregnating women and not taking care of their responsibilities they are brushed off as racist.
Not until black males are required by society, families and their fellow blacks to man-up is this problem going to be solved. Sure you can blame the white police or justice system for putting innocent black men in jail but think about this if true wouldn’t the Department of Justice be taking down more corrupt police departments? They’ve taken them down in the past and I’m sure they will in the future but that doesn’t account for the unbelievable number of black men in the justice system? All because of racist cops?
It can be solved, it could be solved in one generation however I just don’t see it. It has been and will continue to be the preverbal black mother whose child is caught doing something wrong and she says “Not my child, they wouldn’t do that” or “ if they did that they would tell me” or my favorite “the other kids were doing it”.
It’s in your hands to solve. However I predict the same old it’s whitie’s fault not ours.

Black Diaspora said...

Anonymous said..."Face the harsh facts there are a large majority of black males that embrace the whole want-to-be gangsta persona."

That's an irresponsible exaggeration, anon. Most blacks, men and women, are responsible and law-abiding, or you wouldn't be safe anywhere.

It would be equally irresponsible, if I were to opine that there are a large majority of white males that embrace the whole want-to-be James Bond, 007, persona, or the Soprano family persona.

I'm always on guard when I hear or read grossly inaccurate statements as the one above.

And coming from someone white, I'm even more guarded, and find his or her so-called observations or advice to be highly suspect, and agenda-driven.

"It’s in your hands to solve. However I predict the same old it’s whitie’s fault not ours...."

It's in OUR hands to "solve." Don't abdicate your responsibility in this matter, and see it purely as a black problem.

Don't you see that that is how the problem festers and persists?

No one's hands are clean: we all did our part, either through omission or commission, to perpetuate the problem.

You'd rather say, "It's blackie's fault, not ours. Let them clean up their own mess."

My point: we all had a hand in making the mess, and it's going to take the concerted effort of all to clean it up.

Are you on board, or are you just venting?

I suspect the latter is true!

west coast story said...

Well, yeah sure Anon 4:33:M becase white people don't kill their whole families because pops lost his job. Or stand on a clock tower and open fire or send bombs through the mail, or bomb the homes or businesses of animal researchers. Or bomb the Olympics, or blow up a federal building. Come to think of it, most domestic terrorism in the US has been committed by white people. You know, the folks who have a fit because they have to take their shoes off when they fly. As in "Don't you know who I am?"

And you must not watch "Cops" or any of those nanny shows because the load of white failure that pops up on those shows week after week suggests that white folks are not doing such a great job raising their kids either. When you can't get them to mind, you load them up with prescription drugs to make them shut up. Drugs, I might add, that they become addicted to and sell to their friends to earn extra spending cash.


Sorry to feed the trolls but really no one "group" has a license on effing up in this country. I should think you would be glad, hell grateful, that blacks mostly kill each other.

Black Diaspora said...

@granny: "The bible (word of God) is a spiritual book...

"[It is] spiritually discerned...

"In other words, only those that have his Spirit in them can perceive, detect, recognize, or comprehend it."

You're right Granny, It is a treasure trove for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

For others, it's filled with foolishness, and contradictions.

I'm always amazed that Jesus, who brought us the Sermon on the Mount, having only as his guide many of the same old Jewish texts that guide us today (with its foolishness and contradictions, of course), came away with one of the most enlightened revelations about the nature of God, and how we might advance our soul than any words that had been written, or spoken, up until that time.

When the nonbeliever speaks his or her unbelief, or disbelief (which, like you, I have no quarrel with), I'm reminded of this statement from the New Testament regrading the epistles of Paul, and the scriptures in general:

As also in all his [Paul's] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction....

field negro said...

Tanya, I will check out your blog. And thanks for the kind words.

Chris, you are right, H&O still got it. They put on a nice show.

Anon 4:33PM, as other folks have been trying to tell you, we are all in this thing together. And we [black folks]are not alone as a race with pathologies.

Let's hope that you want to be a part of the solution. The fact that you are on this blog and trying to engage us means that you might want to work with those of us who want to get rid of the problem.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous 4:33:

"there are a large majority of black males that embrace the whole want-to-be gangsta persona."

I agree with you to a certain degree, and I've said the same thing myself. However, where I disagree with you is this part, "large majority of black males." No I don't think you're racist for saying that, but I do think words like large majority are an overstatement. That's where I take offense at.

Some young black males embrace the whole want-to-be gangsta persona, not all, and it's not the majority. The media only highlights those young blacks that do crime, however, they NEVER EVER OR HAVE EVER highlighted those that are going to school, college, working, and doing something productive with their life. That's the part that pisses me off.

The media and others pointing fingers at black folks make it seem like the whole black male race is corrupt and not just the minority as any other race has, which is why a lot of innocent blacks are automatically treated as suspects by the police and sometimes murdered by them. They tend to magnify incidents of crimes involving young black males to label, and lump ALL black males as the corrupt, criminal element. That's the reasons black folks get offended. However, when young white males commit crimes, it's barely mentioned or not mentioned at all. "Oh, he just made a mistake or got off on the wrong track" is the excuse used for them while blacks are labeled animals and scum of the earth.

Let me make something perfectly clear.We definitely don't agree with them killing another human being. Nor are we upholding the ones that do commit crimes, we just don't agree with how folks tend to lump all black males in one boat. Which is the same as whites not wanting to be lumped in one boat with some whites who are racist. That's the problem we have with it.

As for blaming the mothers, whelp, in some cases that might be true, but not all. That's not always the case. It's easy to blame those mothers in poverty-stricken homes, because there is no one to defend them, and their not given a platform to defend themselves. People tend to write them off anyway because they don't follow the norm of what society dictates and society rules.

However, there are some parents who are good parents and have worked hard at raising and trying to teach their kid to become decent law abiding citizens, and their child turns out to be criminal minded. It has more to do with the mind of that child. When their thought pattern is bad, they do bad things. There are people who are good parents whose children turned out to be the devil reincarnated. Sometimes it's alway one black sheep in the family no matter what you teach them or do, they're going to do the opposite. So, trying to stigmatize all black women as poor parenting material is unfair in some cases.

You said this...
"Sure you can blame the white police or justice system for putting innocent black men in jail but think about this if true wouldn’t the Department of Justice be taking down more corrupt police departments?"

Contrary to what you might believe there are a lot of innocent black men in the prisons. That's why there are so many DNA cases setting them free and they put a limit on those type of cases. Not all are guilty and not all are innocent, it balances out. As for the Department of Justice taking them down, are you serious? Why would they do that when for centuries the Justice Department has been JUST US and excluding other minorities when it comes to those scales of justice. That's not gone happen because they go out of their way to protect their own, guilty or not "the code of silence".

GrannyStandingforTruth said...


Regarding the sidebar and the comment Rush made about Ted Kennedy. Whelp, I wish Rush could read what I'm about to say.

Rush should be worried about all of that fat around his heart and all those pills he is popping. Rush when you dig a ditch, always dig two, because your own words will boomerang and condemned you.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Correction to this part: "Rush when you dig a ditch, always dig two, because your own words will boomerang and condemned you."

Rush when you dig a ditch, always dig two, because your own words will boomerang and condemn you to that same faith you wished on others.

Anonymous said...

Strangely, this can be seen as an act of compassion from the family murderer point of view. "I can't provide enough and they're better off not trying." Sometimes it's hate or rage, but not always. It's more common in tough economics times so I'm inclined to take the first argument seriously. The rage in families happens a lot when the young father, uncle, nephew is left to watch the baby/toddler alone. Guys just shouldn't be allowed to watch younguns untill they're over 30. They react differantly to crying and not in a good way. This is such a common thing.


GrannyStandingforTruth said...


Sorry about the error.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...


It is true that a lot of men don't have patience with babies or toddlers crying when they are stressed out. I dunno if age has a factor in it or not.

Anonymous said...


Do you know what my wife said when I pulled this blog up this evening..."Hey Adam, that man looks like you."

Yes, he does Field. How terrifying!

As a husband of 13 years and a father of a 12 year old daughter, an 8 year old daughter, and a 4 year old son....I am always affected by stories like this.

In fact, I am affected to the point where I am going to begin posting postive comments on forums from now on. I need to be posting words that leave readers in better condition. I am dropping the sarcasm, the under cutting, and the arguing.

Shame on me for going down those routes anyway. I know better.

Anonymous said...

Granny, teens have larger frequency range that they hear with and young men are just jerks anyway. Maybe the combination is bad? Of course I was Rico Sauve and perfect, I talking about the other young men.


GrannyStandingforTruth said...



Anonymous said...

Granny, your comment and quotes from the bible at 3:34pm supported my comment at 12:15p. Thanks for stating those passages. I knew there was 'something' in the bible about the consequences of humans turning away from God.

"For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy. Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived."

It's very true today. Just look around. Humans tend to see the straight as crooked; and the crooked as straight. However, no one seems to notice. Now that's pretty scary.

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Anonymous said...

Geez field, hard to believe that a DA hasn't seen father/son violence. It can't be new to you.

Arkansas has a population of about 2 mill and fathers actually kill their own babies 2 times a year.


Anonymous said...

Brother Field... what we gonna do? Don't know Man.. but keep doing what you can. Thanks Granny.. that "majority" phrase may be his only observation of the Black male. I at 58 have four brothers that are Black males, NONE of us have been to prison or harmed/killed anyone. Two went to Vietnam before/after myself and the other two were officers in military. We had a father in the house everyday during our youth. We have 14 offsprings. NONE are in jail...all went to and graduated from college. I could continue with my sisters kids but what I am saying is that kids/young adults need someone to lead and be there in times of need to prevent these horrific acts. I have noticed that when a man gets in a fractured family situation he punish the kids parceland part with the mother. Maybe he sees them as a unit and harm them as such. BUT NO EXCUSE. Wish there was a way the man could call someone prior to his act. Granny. keep it real and continue to tell the truth. If it wasn't for the bloggers some people wouyld never hear from the Blacks that not "trying to being hoodie". The majority of Black males is just like me...wanting the best for my family and people. But America can't/wont show that. Reasons unknown.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous 9:26:

Whelp, it says in the word that people would call good evil, and evil good.

Anonymous said...

field negro--"What would cause a man to kill three children?"

Its easy to kill when you have no love or feeling for anyone except yourself.

ITs HIS wife, HIS kids, and he can do whatever he want to them.Who are you to tell him what to do?

This is how a sociopath thinks and i bet that this guy is a sociopath.

I don't believe race,economics,or where he was raised has anything to do with what he did.

The media is a double edged sword.The MSM can bring attention to crimes like this,but also they can create more crimes.

MSM coverage can push the next sociopath to murder his family , and the next, til you have 5 or more stories like this guy.

I don't believe this is anything new in the black community.I believe crimes like this are getting more attention these days.

And can we please stop with the "white folks do it to"There are millions or more white people in this country than black people.So naturally whites are gonna do more crimes than blacks.

This shouldn't be a race issue.It should be a human issue.


If Teddy dies before this health care bill is passed and Democrats name it the "Ted Kennedy memorial health care bill" will you say Rush is right and apologize?

GrannyStandingforTruth said...


Granny was just getting ready to ask if you were here. You gone live a long time. (smile)

I wanted to tell you that the play at church that my grandkids and daughter performed in for Black History, also, had a skit on the original Black Panthers and what they contributed to our society in it. The young people did an excellent job in playing the parts of different blacks in our history. One of my grandson's played President Obama and gave his speech and had people crying. They had even some of the young men playing the Secret Service men's part. My daughter played several parts in the play, she was Rosa Parks, a Black Panthers, a slave, and a few others. So did one of my granddaughters.

The play was so good until, other churches were calling the next day, asking could they see the play telling them they should take it on the road and they just might do that.

My daughter has been asking around to see who taped it so that I can get a copy of it.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous 11:05:

When white folks stop trying to label ALL black males as criminals and ALL black women as bad parents, welfare recipients, and tramps, that is when I'll stop saying white folks do it too.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

BTW, it's not a race issue in my book, it's a human nature issue. In addition, I agree with you on most of what you said and this comment, "The media is a double-edged sword. The media can bring attention to crimes like this, but also they can create more crimes."

SouthernGirl2 said...

When white folks stop trying to label ALL black males as criminals and ALL black women as bad parents, welfare recipients, and tramps, that is when I'll stop saying white folks do it too.

Say it, Granny!

SouthernGirl2 said...

Rush when you dig a ditch, always dig two, because your own words will boomerang and condemn you to that same faith you wished on others.


GrannyStandingforTruth said...

BTW, I forgot to add this. The question you asked me about would I apologize to Rush if what he said is true. Whelp, I cannot tell a lie, NO WAY NO HOW would I ever apologized to Rush about anything I say.

Anonymous said...

Just slow down there, Granny. Breath deep. I have known many black people and many of them have influenced and enriched my life.One black supervisor, a vet, told me what being a man was about. But don't just wave away the trend towWhen white folks stop trying to label ALL black males as criminals and ALL black women as bad parents, welfare recipients, and tramps, that is when I'll stop saying white folks do it too.ards lawlessnes. It's just ugly.


GrannyStandingforTruth said...


You can call it what you want, but I meant what I said.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

black diaspora:

You know those two football players that came up missing in the water? I got that feeling I get when something ain't right. What about you?

Black Diaspora said...

GrannyStandingforTruth said...
black diaspora:

You know those two football players that came up missing in the water? I got that feeling I get when something ain't right. What about you?

Granny, I'm with you all the way on this one, and I blogged about it here.

field negro said...

"You know those two football players that came up missing in the water? I got that feeling I get when something ain't right. What about you?"

Yes granny, makes you want to say hmmmmmm.

BD, I will check out your post on the subject.

rikyrah said...

If you want to kill yourself, then KILL YOURSELF.

Killing others is beyond being a coward. I don't have the words as to what it is, but you don't have the right to decide to end someone else's life, because yours is #($*ed up.

Anonymous said...

Just want to clarify on my comment that many people are raising their children until 10: it was tongue in cheek. As my mother says,"you NEVER stop raising your kids". Trust me she is old school and will call you on shyt anytime of the day. It seems often people are becoming more selfish"me me me" and forget about their children who didnt ask to be here. selfish.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Both of these articles are old and
the voices of poor people.

Im Young, I'm Black and I'm tryin not to die
Atwynn Delgado/Youth in Media Intern/POOR Magazine
Wednesday, October 1, 2008;

Im 17. Im Black. I live in the United States and I'm gonna die very soon. Maybe not today, but very possibly tomorrow. Not because of an illness, or car crash, but because I will be shot.

After the shooting death of Joshua Cameron and other young men of color in San Francisco last month and countless other youth of color shot dead in the Bay Area over the last year, I traveled from Oakland, where I live, to gather alongside several hundred youth, families and youth advocates on the steps of City Hall in San Francisco last week to mourn their death and ask why.

I know why. A lot of my friends know why. There are a lot of "whys"-- corporate media images perpetuating violence, the school to prison pipeline, poverty and institutional racism and a society hinged on financial wealth and consumerist values have conspired to promote violence as a living, breathing thing that has a life of its own. Many of my friends, long ago alienated by a gutted school system that no longer teaches us anything except how to take a test; families, communities and generations destroyed by years of poverty, de-stabilization, gentrification and joblessness, are no longer listening to our elders and even if they are, they are shot by other youth not listening to their elders, their ancestors, their cultures, their humanity.

For many youth in poverty, the lack of real opportunities for living wage jobs are staggering, so many of us are forced to earn income through underground economic strategies. These strategies are criminalized, so if we aren't shooting each other, we are being incarcerated and criminalized. Our schools seem to be set up to discourage us with endless tests and things like art, music and social studies being taken out completely.

The voices of the youth who spoke broke my heart--like they always do, like they did for my cousin who was shot in Oakland two months ago; like they do when I hear about anyone taken from this earth for no good reason at all; like I do when I hear about children and families shot in Iraq for a war we have no reason to be in; like I do when I hear about another young person joining the military to fight and probably get killed in this ridiculous "war"; like I do when I hear of another young person being pushed out of school cuz they didn't pass the barrage of tests they are given; like I do when my mama cries in fear for my life when I go out at night.

One young man at the memorial for Joshua spoke of being afraid to walk outside, for fear of getting shot. That's when I knew. It wont be today or even tomorrow, but if we don't do something very different about these "whys", me and my friends wont make it through this year.Im sure of that.

They can't keep blaming our Families!!

South Los Angeles Parents and Children Demand Decent Education as a Human Right

Gretchen Hildebrand/PNN L.A. Correspondent
Thursday, June 22, 2006;

"The stories you will hear tonight are not supposed to happen.” Parent and CADRE (Community Asset Development Re-Defining Education) member Naomi Haywood stood on the low stage at the front of the packed meeting room. The parents and students from the South Los Angeles community that filled the room mirrored Haywood's frustration and outrage. They exploded into applause for her and co-facilitator Linda Sanchez as they set the stage for last Wednesday's People's Hearing on the institutionalized "push-out" of children of color from the Los Angeles public school system.

"This is a human rights crisis," continued Haywood, engaging the almost entirely African-American and Latino crowd in rhythmic alternation with Sanchez, who spoke in Spanish. "students and parents - have a human right to dignity, education and participation!" The crowd responded with passion. Each seemed to have their own story of how District 7 schools in South Los Angeles had pushed their children out of public school, through the systematic application of punishments intended to humiliate and suspensions and "opportunity" transfers that often exile students from their own education.

Many in the crowd wore CADRE's bright green t-shirts, and had already come to this community organization with their struggles to obtain a respectful and meaningful education for their children. Haywood herself was one such parent. When her son was in middle school, partial blindness in one of his eyes was slowing down his learning. Despite this, his teacher made him sit far from the board and insisted that he was "just lazy."

Haywood was only notified of the situation when her son had already been suspended, after he had been disciplined several times by the teacher for acting out. When Haywood brought in a doctor's note describing her son's disability, her son's teacher brushed her off, saying she didn't care. Eventually her son missed two weeks of school before the administration agreed to meet her son's needs. "It wasn't til I went to CADRE that I learned that I have a basic human right to participate in my son's education. The school just treated us like WE were the problem.

Luckily Haywood's son is still in school, although she still worries about the threats of suspension and discipline that are leveled at him because of his disability. Beyond her concern, she is also angry that her son could be so easily denied an education by a system that prefers to punish rather than educate low-income students of color.

CADRE was formed in 2001 by low-income parents of color in South Los Angeles who believed that decent education for their children was a basic human right that was being systematically denied to them by the Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD). While working to educate parents in their community about their right to be involved in their children's education, CADRE parents found they all had stories similar to Haywood's and often worse. And the results of the discipline procedures are what CADRE calls a direct path to poverty or prison.

The hard data collected by CADRE supports this theory. Public high schools in South LA have the highest suspension rates in the city. These schools also have the lowest graduation rates. For every 100 ninth-graders, as few as 24 receive diplomas, with the average graduation rate in schools like Fremont, Locke, Jordan ranging from 24% to 42%. This crisis is happening in districts that are primarily African-American and Latino. In nearby Whitney High School, in a district where Black and Latino people made up less than 20% of the census tract, the suspension rate was 0%, and the graduation rate 93%.

Many from the audience were there to share heartbreaking stories of the pain they and their children have experienced at the hands of this system. A shy woman in a long a flowing skirt told in Spanish of how her daughter had been suspended 5 times because the school felt that they couldn't stop the other children from hitting her. Even though she was the victim of other children's behavior, her daughter received no help in making up her work and is now so far behind that she may not graduate. Worse was that her daughter, who once loved learning, has "turned into a person full of resentment."

Another parent told the story of a CADRE member who tried several times to arrange a meeting with administrators and teachers to discuss her son's suspension. After being stood up twice, finally one teacher showed up to a third meeting. Instead of listening to the parent's frustrations at this treatment, the teacher called security to have her removed from the school. "If they don't want to deal with angry parents, they need to give us the proper respect, to let us know when a red flag goes up.

All outrageous, the parents stories have common themes, the sense that their children are being humiliated by their punishments, one parent told of her child being subjected to taunts while picking up trash in a courtyard. Parents also find themselves excluded from decisions made for their children, while schools show little effort to address the problems that may be interfering in their education, whether they are learning disabilities, behavior issues, or a lack of safety and support available in the school. The commonality between all these students was that they lost access to education when punished, and not given a chance to catch up – and many of them are encouraged give up.

In CADRE's recent report, More Education, Less Suspension, data on school drop-out rates is backed up with a survey looking to find out why students leave school before graduation. In a study of 120 such former students, CADRE found a systematic pattern of suspensions being extensively overused in the absence of other disciplinary techniques, which were applied in disregard to the impact on the child's education. Many of the students who left school did so after a series of suspensions and many were advised to leave by teachers and school administrators.

Parents and students who had undergone school suspensions were also interviewed, uncovering the mistreatment that many felt subject to in the public school system. Their children weren't listened to or respected in the discipline process. One of the students at the hearing told a story of a classmate being dragged in handcuffs to the dean's office because he wouldn't pull up his pants. Angry at this treatment, he made the point, "The principles of behavior and respect that they want us to use should apply to staff, too." Tellingly, the report also found that African-American students in particular were subject to a higher proportion of suspensions.

The implications are clear: low-income students of color are subjected to a system that denies them respect, and in many cases, an education at all. The "drop-out" crisis in their community is really a "push-out" crisis supported by these institutionalized disciplinary practices.

The parents of CADRE were present to stand up for their children's right to an education with dignity, as well as their right to be a part of decisions that impact their children. "We do not have to accept this, and nor do our children," insisted Haywood, "as primary stakeholders of our children's futures, we deserve to be a part of the process."

Will the LAUSD listen? Perhaps. One Board Member-elect, Monica Garcia from District 2, sat through several hours of testimony and then addressed the crowd, saying,"I'm listening." While she gave respect to CADRE and the students present, no specific promises were made. And in the absence of more official power in the room, most media outlets passed over the event.

But CADRE isn't waiting for promises, they are urging the LAUSD to pass a resolution implementing a Discipline Foundation Policy, now a draft bulletin at the Board, that would reshape the principles behind the school district's policy and implementation. Their demands are simply that the LAUSD commit to a policy preserving students human right to dignity, a right to education, and a right to parent participation and monitoring in discipline implementation. CADRE is in effect, demanding accountability from the system that prefers to blame students and their parents for its own failure. They will be at the LAUSD's next meeting on Tuesday, June 27th from 4:30- 6:30 (333 South Beaudry Ave.) to present their demands with parent power.

An insightful note did come from Board Member-elect Garcia, who insists, "I got it." She does seem to, as she noted that urban education in America has been underserved for centuries. To make a goal of 100% of kids graduating from high school in LAUSD schools, she added, is nothing short of revolutionary.

As one parent led the room in the chant "Parent - Power!" it was clear that there was revolution in this room, in the righteous and insistent voices of parents who have seen their children suffer and be denied enough and will not back down. And in the face of such staggering educational inequities, their movement will only grow.

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:03 has a lucid moment with -

This shouldn't be a race issue.It should be a human issue.



What's the deal with white folks and guns in Church, blowing away their ministers and other parishioners?

And some Rethugly moron (is there any other kind?) in my state, Virginia wants to pass a law to carry guns in church!

Now - if you want to wonder why Sunday Morning is the most segregated time in America...

Mayhaps, it's because after ducking and diving for cover all week trying to get to the grocery store as gangbangers try their own version oof the OK Corral...

The LAST thing any black person wants to do...

Is attend a church full of white folks carrying guns!



Anonymous said...


What about all the students that behave? Don;t they have right to an uninterupted education? Without fear of these students with disablities?

And the parents of these students that do their work and behave? Sorry but we're working as hard as we can to put food and colthes on the backs of our families and now we have to help foot the bill for those that can't simply go to school obey and rules?

It's not that hard.

Anonymous said...

Whats the big story??, Black Guy kills White Woman/Kids??? Its only a story when someone like Susan Smith does it and blames it on a Black Guy...

Brian said...

Black men do kill children.... It just doesn't make headline news as often....

A Black man in the St. Louis Metro killed his live-in girlfriend and her 3 small children a few years back. Shot them all execution style.

A Black man shot his Pregnant girlfriend in the stomach with a shotgun killing the unborn baby (she was almost full term at the time)... this was not too long ago.

There have been home invasions in my area alone where kids were in the home...and were killed by Black suspects.

A Black man raped and killed a young girl in the St. Louis metro several years ago...

And of course there was the famous Atlanta killer....likely a Black male.

I could go on and on... but what you stated is a myth.... We'd like to think they don't kill children and babies...but they do. Any group is capable.

But it doesn't seem to happen as often.

And yes...the economy is putting added pressure on folks. When America catches a cold... Black and poor communities all over the Country catch pneumonia. As you stated... the unemployment level for Blacks is higher than the national avg. and it was already high.

American Capitalism working its deadly magic.

Anonymous said...

Blacks going homicidal on their own families. Wouldn't that be assimilation into the dominant culture?

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous 7:43:

Go back and read the first sentence that's the part I wrote. What followed after that first sentence, I didn't write or say it, I just posted it. As for my views on the schools, I understand the children, parents, and teachers; what each of their arguments are concerning education and how each of them feels. Too bad they don't understand each other because if they did they'd be able to reach an agreement and work something out for the benefit of the children.

Yes, I feel that all children including those with disabilities should be able to come to school and learn in a safe and peaceful environment free from stress.Also, I feel that children are sent to school to learn and get an education. I don't believe in children acting up in school either, and that teachers are suppose to be there to teach and not just there for a paycheck.

That little boy was blind in one eye, which put him at a great disadvantage. More than likely by the teacher sitting him where she did, it puts him at an even greater disadvantage and was frustrating him. Therefore; he was probably acting out because he knew no other way to express his frustration. I look at it like this if the teacher response to the mother was she didn't care if he had a disability, there is no telling what all she was saying to the child when the mother wasn't around that help trigger the child's behavior.

I admit they have some good teachers that do a good job, but not all of them are saints. I spent a lot of time helping out at the school back a few years ago and observed the behavior and attitudes of children and teachers. I've witnessed the good and bad in both of them.

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Granny said- That little boy was blind in one eye, which put him at a great disadvantage. More than likely by the teacher sitting him where she did, it puts him at an even greater disadvantage and was frustrating him. Therefore; he was probably acting out because he knew no other way to express his frustration.

hummm, i have a daughter that is blind in her left eye, imagine that? her mother and i depend on her to tell us when something is wrong and not corrected at school. it's NOT up to the children to correct the problem it the parent's responciblity...if you have to go sit in the office everyday and miss work to ensure my daughter gets her education that's excatly what i would and have done. besides it sounds as though your speculating as to what the prob may have been? i didn't recall that much detail?

again like so many other problems the black community faces you want to blame someone other than the parent!

i said it many times on this blog it won't happen until you accept responciblity for yourself!!!

Anonymous 7:43:
have a glorious day Granny :)

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Anonymous 7:43:

I'm not blaming no one in particular, because like I said before I've seen the good and bad in the parents, teachers, and students. Some have legitimate gripes and some don't.

Didn't you read the article? Evidently, the boy told his mother because she went to the school to have a conference with the teacher. Like I said before we don't know what all the teacher could have been saying to the child to provoke him either when the mother wasn't around. Kids are not stupid they know when someone is putting them down or treating them with indifference or mistreating them. Do you honestly think that teachers would tell on themselves if it is something negative?

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You know they always say what is a differents between a nigga and a nigger as a black man in my opinion what he did he would be a nigger and I hope they catch him but don't kill him that would be to easy, lock his ass up in a room and make him look at the pictures of those whose life he took each and everyday I guarantee that will be more torture on him than putting him to death.

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