Sunday, September 28, 2008

Would blacks vote for Obama if he were white?

Harold Jackson is an opinion columnist for my hometown paper, the Philadelphia Inquirer. Mr Jackson, in case you were wondering, is black. ( like he could be anything but with a name like Harold Jackson). Anyway, he wrote the following article about black folks voting for the O man because he is black:

"There's no way that I'd vote for Barack Obama just because he and I are both black men.
I grew up in Birmingham, Ala., in the 1950s and '60s. A third-grade classmate went to jail for marching. Another little girl at our school was killed when the Ku Klux Klan bombed Sixteenth Street Baptist Church.

I've known people who were beaten by Bull Connor's cops in Birmingham and whipped by state troopers on the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma. And I don't think any of them shed blood for my right to vote just to see me cast my ballots based on skin color.

The 1965 Voting Rights Act was the result of a convincing argument that black people were just as capable of making an intelligent decision about political candidates as any white person.

More recently, though, a lie has found favor in America. It's the falsehood that African Americans vote as a monolith, without regard to the issues or positions of the candidates. It's a lie promoted by those who don't want to admit that their preferred candidate was wrong on the issues that matter most to most African American voters.

Black voters' interests are so common because their circumstances are so similar. Even those with better educations, higher incomes, and more expensive homes are not too far removed from family or friends living modestly. Poverty is itself a recent memory for many middle-income African Americans. Some feel they are only a paycheck or two from returning to that status.

Blacks don't get credit for carefully weighing candidates' positions on the issues, even though they have shown that they will vote for a white candidate over a black one whose views are not to their liking. "

I agree with him. This notion that all those dumb blacks who are incapable of thinking through the issues, just mindlessly vote for the O man because he is black, is bull shit. Has it ever occurred to anyone that black folks just might vote for him because he is the best candidate?

Here is my theory about black folks: we are committed to a party, not skin color. We will vote for the white democrat over the black republican every time. Just ask Kenneth Blackwell, Michael Steele, or Lynn Swann. The last time I checked, I didn't see a whole lot of brothers and sisters here in Philly switching party registration to vote for Lynn Swann when he ran for Governor because he is black. He got his ass kicked among black voters by a white Jewish guy, because we happened to like his policies more. Mr. Swann ran as a republican, and that pretty much guaranteed that black folks weren't going to vote for his black ass. And that would have been true whether he was yellow, red, brown, or purple. If Alan Keyes crazy ass ran against any white democrat in A-merry-ca, please believe that he would not get my vote, period. The shit is that deep.

But I will say this: If all things are equal (all things, including party affiliation) black folks, and any other race for that matter, will vote for the person who looks like them over the other guy. Don't believe me? Do you think if this was Bobby Chin running for president he wouldn't get 99% of the Asian vote? Do you think if it was Bobby Sanchez he wouldn't get at least 90% of the Latino vote? Come on now, let's keep it real with each other. The only reason white folks can afford to make choices is because they pretty much dominate this shit. So having a white guy run for office is no big deal to the average white person. He or she can vote for Bobby Sanchez, Bobby Chin, or Bobby Johnson, and still feel like he will have a seat at the table, because everyone around the minority guy at the table will look like them. We don't have that option. Most of the time we pretty much have to just vote for the person who will hurt us the least.

So please, no more talk about this black people voting for Obama because he is black bullshit. Black people will vote for Obama because he is a democrat, and he happens to be better than the other guy. A guy, by the way, who is crazier than the craziest uncle we ever hid in the attic.
*Pic courtesy of


Anonymous said...

Let me get this off my chest right now.

Black folk are committed to the Democratic Party because the GOP gives them NO CHOICE.

The GOP can trot out all the Black Men you soon as they start in on the tired old party line...its a wrap.

The REALITY is in order to BE a Black Republican, you have to make a habit of Publicly castigating most bastions of Black Culture.

I mean, really, how seriously can you take these cats when they act like There is a string in their back and they spout off the following 3 phrases.

1. The Party of Lincoln is the party who ended slavery.

2. Dr. King's Dream that I would not be judged by the color of my skin but by the content of my character.

3. The Democratic Party takes Black People for Granted.

Swiff said...

I would not vote for that bizarre lookin Senator in the photoshop.

Jody said...

Seriously, I never thought anyone could make Barack ugly... but that did it.
Just like Harold and you are voting for the best candidate, so am I. That he happens to be black is not why. And, I believe with all my heart that enough white folks agree with me and will also be voting for the candidate that does not look like them.

Anonymous said...

I'll vote republican if and when they produce a sane person one day for there team. Until then I'm sticking with the Dems for now. I'm a registered Independent and proud to say I don't belong to either Dem or Rep party.

A long time ago I learned in the south Dems took Blacks for granted. So, I pretty much ignored there ass until now. I'm voting for Obama in November not because he is Black (Though it can be a plus for me at times) but I'm voting for him instead because he is way more safer than McCain crazy ass. Of Course, having Sarah Palin lurking around in the White House scares me also!

Kellybelle said...

^ I'm with swiff. Obama looks like a muppet in that picture.

Why is voting for people who look like you such a big deal all of a sudden? White people have been doing it for years. The first election where there is the opportunity to vote for someone who doesn't look like them and everyone's twisting themselves into knots. What about the content of his character?

I can't wait 'til Hispanics take over. I hope the State of the Union is in Spanish and they put a big ass pinata in the Rose Garden.

Woozie said...

Looks like Harvey Dent got hit by a buss full of Down Syndrome kids.

Ray Bridges said...

If Barack were White instead of Black, he'd still get 90% of the Black vote. The difference is that because Barack IS Black, there are about 25 to 35% MORE Black votes. I personally think it's all right to vote for someone because you share a strong common bond, i.e., women voting for a woman; Mormons voting for a Mormon, and yes, Blacks voting for someone because he is Black. Thing is, all of these common denominators PRESUME common interests.

Where stupidity steps in is when some fool says he'd never vote for someone because of a common interest NOT shared, as in "color." My semi-White, Redbone cousins in Louisiana reject Obama because he is Black. These are the same fools that vote against their own economic self-interests in favor of manipulated social issues.

I'm not voting for Obama because he's Black. I'm voting for Obama because if the grown-ups don't get control in this next election, we are all up Shit-Fucking Creek.


Ann Brock said...

Field I AM voting for Obama because I believe he's the best candidate who happens to be black.

But, if I wanted to vote for Obama because he's black as my only reason why not Everything else is done because of just being black.

If you are black mostly likely you have been stopped by cops just because you are black. Sometimes shot and kill because you are black.

Because You are black, you are denied job promotions when your qualifications were superior to the person who ended up with the job.

How about, just because you are black being denied a low interest rate on your loan just because you are black.

So if I want to vote because he's black why not? No one been questioning been black before now.

s. douglas said...

I think you may be missing a key component to the "Blacks only vote for blacks" meme.

I'm not so sure it has much to do with blacks, at least not directly. After all, the wingnuts know blacks are not going to support Mc Cain, and that Loon Palin, and I don't think they really care. In fact, I don't remember them ever trying to engage the black community in a sincere way.

Maybe it might influence the most gullible of the gullible, but beyond that, I think this has far more to do with white people.

The wingnuts, via the Internet, have been very successful at spreading the idea that Obama is secretly a "Black Extremist."

You see it everywhere-

"Obama spent his childhood surrounded by Radicals."

"Obama associates with Radicals. Why, they're the ones who paid his tuition at Harvard."

"Obama is going to turn America over to the Radicals if he's elected."

And by "Radicals" they mean, blacks who hate white people.

It also reinforces the idea that Obama, and his supporters don't "Love America" the way they should.

"They're just voting for him because he's black. They don't care about our country. They're Racists."

Seriously, this kind of bullshit is everywhere. I've even seen it on "Liberal" blogs.

The wingnut agenda is based exclusively on Fear, and this, for many in my race, is one of the biggest; An "Angry Black Man," with power.

One other thing. I also think it plays on the mindset "If blacks can vote for a guy because he's black, then why isn't it okay for me to vote for a guy because he's white?"

That's my take.

field negro said...

"Field I AM voting for Obama because I believe he's the best candidate who happens to be black."

And there you have it.

That damn woozie is soooo politically incorrect. Congrats on your skind whipping those cow girls. Today, we all are skins fans.

"Where stupidity steps in is when some fool says he'd never vote for someone because of a common interest NOT shared, as in "color." My semi-White, Redbone cousins in Louisiana reject Obama because he is Black. These are the same fools that vote against their own economic self-interests in favor of manipulated social issues."

Houston, we [do not] have a problem.

That was a great point.

"I would not vote for that bizarre lookin Senator in the photoshop."

I don't think I could vote for that guy either swiff.

Anonymous said...

Dude, people who are voting Democratic in this election would vote for a motherfucking labrador retriever if he or she was the Democratic nominee. We are voting against the motherfucking shitbag crazy-ass GOP motherfuckers who have detroyed this motherfucking country. I don't give a single flying fuck that the nominee is Obama or JoeMama or whothefuckever. NO MORE REPUBLICAN DEPRAVITY!!! Let's get some semblance of sanity restored to this country, and then we can address niceties like "voting for the person not the party" or some such bullshit.

SouthernGirl2 said...

I am voting for the best candidate which is Barack Obama, because I'd like to keep my house, be able to afford gasoline for my car,& be able to afford a Doctor's care when I'm sick. And there you have it!

Anonymous said...

That picture is horrific. I know there was a reason why I shouldn't be blogging in the middle of the night...

Anonymous said...

I am fully supporting Obama because sanity needs to be restored to the White House. I'll vote for any person who believes the earth is more than 6,000 years old.

Jmee said...

To answer your question Field.. It's a resounding hell yeah. He would fit the same mold as Bill Clinton.

C'mon a laid back liberal who admitted to smoking pot, is intelligent and makes McCain look like Bob Dole. Too easy for black folks to check that ballot box ;)

Barack is just missing the saxophone.

nyc/caribbean ragazza said...

Amen Field!

Anonymous said...

What comrade physioprof said.

tuhmeesuh said...

field, i am feeling your opinion 100% but i see this as a double edged sword i suppose in some ways. we as blacks do NOT have to defend to anyone else why we are voting for barack obama. white people don't do it, why do we have to? people can vote for obama for any d*** reason they want to, be it because he's black, because he's the better candidate, because he looked d*** good for the first debate. if they want to vote for him because he's black--so be it. like someone else said, whites have been doing it for years. they always tend to roll with the candidates THEY can most relate to. in keeping it real, i do know quite a few people who ARE voting for obama because he is better AND because he is black, and more power to them.

we need all of the votes we can get.

i personally am voting for him because it's obvious he is the better candidate. but IF i were not so *ahem* politically savvy (note sarcasm. did i spell that correctly??!) i, like alot of first time voters in their 30's, 40's and 50+'s, would vote for obama because i can relate to him better than the other candidate.

and that may include the fact that he is black. and it is my right to do so.

so while i don't advocate voting for someone based on the color of their skin, i don't bash anyone who IS voting for someone based on the color of their skin. it's their right (as i said earlier) to vote any way they so please, and no one has to defend their reasons to anyone else for voting.

may the best man win, and for those who ARE voting for obama because he is black--make sure you vote anyway and don't let anyone dissuade you from casting it. because that's exactly what a whole bunch of political machines want us to do--not vote at all. i'd rather vote for obama because of his skin color than not vote at all.

a vote is like a dollar. at the end of the day, regardless of where it came from or why it came from there--it's spendable and it counts. :D

tuhmeesuh said...

oh. did i mention that there are a truckload of voters NOT voting for obama because he's black?

the playing field needs to be even somehow, and those voting based because he's black will help to even it out alot.

any vote for barack is a great vote as far as i'm concerned.

Kristin said...

Great read Field. I find myself often debating with non-people of color about this very topic. Also I know quite a few older black women that are not going to vote for Obama because he IS black and they fear for his life. BTW that art clip is just plain freaky.

Anonymous said...

Like Comrade Physiprof said, at this point I would vote for anybody other than the two crazy Rethugs who threaten to make our time with Bush-Cheney look like an appetizer.

Seriously as a Black woman, the fact that Obama is Black while nice most certainly was not the deciding factor.

Jody said...

OT....the latest McCain ad here in Philly says that it was the Republicans, led by McCain that have acted to end this financial crisis... and the Democrats have done nothing because they didn't know what to do!
UNBELIEVABLE!!! He is such a fucking liar!

gsutiger2 said...

Real Talk Field!

Anonymous said...

When I was stationed in Maryland, I did not vote for Michael Steele. There's no way in hell I would have voted for him.

Anonymous said...

Is it me or are all black ex-pro football players are Republicans? I do not know if I would vote for any black republicans with the possible exception of Colin Powell if he had ran eight years ago. With that being say, I may would voted for Jack Kemp. Those are the only exceptions where I would have considered crossing party lines. I wouldn't have voted for anyone like Lynn Swann because of his bumper sticker Republican view, but I do not blame Swann for voting for his interests.

Anonymous said...

Amen to comrade physioprof: "...We who are voting DEM are voting against all of the rabid, mad-dog, facist, anti-working/poor RETHUG/PUGNICANS who have literally fu...ed up and screwed this country and its people. We, the people, are out here suffocating; we (I, anyway) would vote for a cross-eyed, mono-browed, neanderthal if it were the DEM nominee. And while I'm at it...
I stay pissed off; want to go postal because we, the people, have allowed stringy-haired, pencil-necked, no-dicked euros to dictate the terms of our culture(s) and how/why we vote; that we, the people, continue to celebrate the fried-chicken eating, scratchin'-where/when-they-don't-itch, 'grill'-faced, intellect wannabe afros who maliciously hi-jack and desecrate the legacies of those who suffered before us.
I'm pissed that Mr. Jackson would need to address this issue; or that these euros try to force us to justify and qualify why and how we vote. How dare they; and how dare we let 'em!!!
Thank you,


Anonymous said...

Good question and frankly, I don't care because I still would. Blacks are not always white and white cannot always be black so what's the point? He's good and people can see, feel and know that.

Anonymous said...

So what if they don't give us credit for having independent thinking? Guess what? And they never will. Some of us need to grow a pair and stop being so focused on what others think/say about us. Isn't what you think about yourself most important. This is my problem with some of the civil rights folks, they care to much what Mr. Charlie thinks.

Libby said...

I agree with some degree. Why is it wrong to say that Blacks are voting for a candidate because of 'skin color', when, in that exact same vein, we have a recent study that revealed the reasons why the majority of White people aren't voting for Obama is because of his skin color.
So, it's wrong for US to vote for him because he's black, but it's perfectly okay and excusable for Whites not to vote for him because he's black.
Let's not get caught-up in the double standard. This nation is constantly making excuses for other people's behavior.

Mr. Noface said...

Blacks are voting for Obama because he's the democrat (and he's the best man running right now). The fact that he happens to be black is really just an added bonus that will get more black people out to the polls. You are right, black people vote for the person that will hurt them the least and often times the choice is so bleak that many don't vote at all.

Its funny, because we have some Hilary supporters that are going to vote for McCain because they feel like Hilary was robbed ( I call bovine feces). Yet, if it were Barrack who had lost the nomination, I doubt that there would be the same level of negative response to Hilary as there is/was to Obama (I'm talking about you P.U.M.A), because despite the ignorant notions of the mainstream media, blacks are fully capable of voting on the issues and not just identity.

Anonymous said...

thank you, thank you, thank you for this article. I am tired of hearing this bullshit argument that blacks are only voting for Obama because of his skin color.

Like we don't follow the issues, like gas isn't sky high, like we aren't following Russia's path by spending enormous sums on a war only to fall into hard economic times, like the reality of the last eight years hasn't smacked us all in the face, like Mcsame isn't 72 and Palin has no clue about economic, foreign, or any issues, ... the truth is racists are scared that we will gain power and treat them as ignorant and unequal as the we have been treated in amerikka. preach-field-preach!

Anonymous said...

Bettis is for Obama.
So's Franco Harris.

We had a Steelers for Obama rally in these parts.

Man, are we football obsessed or WHAT?

Anonymous said...

Other Steelers for Obama:
Dwight "Mad Dog" White, J.T. Thomas, Robin Cole, Larry Brown and Edmund Nelson

(yes, some of them are black. no I'm not sorting through which Larry Brown that is, to tell you ;-)

Unknown said...

Would I vote for Alan "Uncle Ruckus" Keyes -a Republican ? HELL TO THE NAW. Would I vote for "Sith Lord" Harold Ford, Jr. -a Democrat ? HELL TO THE NAW. Why are they bringing this up? To reduce Obama to a symbol. Thus dismiss his candidacy and those who votes for him

How can this Black man politically kick ass and take names? -- It must be identity politics. Black folks are not intelligent enough to understand issues, you know they are all on welfare or in jail (except Black Republicans of course). What about the white vote? -- Oh that's white guilt.

No one questions anyone voting for a white male candidate. If McGrumpy gets the the majority of the AARP voters, is that identity politics. If people vote for the McCain ticket because of Palin is that identity politics for the developmentally disabled because you got to be a pure retard to vote for her dumb ass.

BTW I reading "Black Men for McCain" blog. It stated that they no longer endorse the McCain-Palin ticket because of the financial funk the country is in and because Palin interview beared out the fact that Trig Palin truly takes after his mom.

It is both hilarious and sad to see that these newly minted Black Republican (not to be confused with Black conservatives) are have finally realized that the post-Nixon Republican Party ain't about no one but the money men.

During this political season we will see the truth of the American politic.

Anonymous said...

IMHO, voting for Obama or McCain is not really voting for change at all...sorry to bust ya'll lil' "change mantra"...but voting for either Repubs or Demos is a vote for more of the same. Let's keep it real...No one becomes the chief exec of this business called America unless they kiss the feet (or ass for bro Obama) of the REAL ELITES. No conspiracy shit folks...just fact. American democracy has always been a choice between the "two-party" cabal of elitist, old family-connected wealthy and the occasional poli-con artist.

So why only two choices? Why are third party candidates left out of the conversation about the direction and state of our nation? Have you ever wondered why "money" and "corporate lobbyist" are synonymous with war, deceit, corruption, death and failed policies?

Elections today are nothing more than grand marketing schemes. Political "american idol" contests for the make them feel like they're involved in "democracy" and rooting for their fav.

Really...there will never be change in this nation as long as WE THE PEOPLE allow the "two-party" system to remain corrupt and self-perpetuating.

"mene mene tekel upharsin"

Anonymous said...


I do not think it's a double standard. Field makes the point that blacks do not vote for candidates for their skin per se. It's more about party ties and where their interests lie. Michael Steele lost in Maryland because voters prefer a democrat over a republican. One would have to believe that white people may not voted for Michael Steele for the color of his skin, but during that same election year Dev. Patrick was elected Governor of Mass and his black, however he is a Democrat in a Democratic state.

Swiff said...

Tough Break America! There's always Fubu.

Anonymous said...

Interesting concept.

In a word, yes.

What other choice would it be, Mr. Morton?

Or as I like to call him, John the Evil Marionette. Bob Barr? As much as I like her personally, Cynthia McKinney? Or, God forbid, Lazy Eyed Ralph? With these choices, Hell Yes!!!

Jibreel Riley said...

Remember Field: This is your Democrat Party
well I gotta go dance for white folks, cheer them up thanks for the Dow tanking

Swiff said...

Conservatives Gone Wild!

"We don't want (Hispanics) to become the new African-American community," Lima told The Associated Press. "And that's what the Democratic Party is going to do to them, create more programs and give them handouts, food stamps and checks for this and checks for that. We don't want that."

"I'm very much afraid that the Democratic Party is going to do the same thing that they did with the African-American culture and make them all dependent on the government and we don't want that," she said.

(here's the punchline!)

In August, Lima was named co-chair of McCain's Nevada Hispanic Leadership Team, which aimed to reach out to a crucial voting bloc in a state where polls show McCain in a dead heat with Barack Obama.

Ah, Republicans. You still have that magic touch with minorities.

Jody said...

Jibreel.... you might wanna go look at WHO's bill... was a BUSH Administration plan 2. TWO THIRDS REPUBLICANS VOTED AGAINST! That sounds like a republican fiasco to me. McCain, gave a press conference saying he lead to get it passed and two hours later it failed... by majority republicans voted against. TWO THIRDS DEMOCRACTS VOTED FOR. Thank your party for the tank.

EzMun said...

A voter voting for a candidate who does not look like them is a luxury given only to white people in one of the rare few occasions when a non-white candidate is running for high office. In most cases, however, white people don't have to worry about the race of the candidate because, let's face it and as you say Field, "they pretty much dominate this shit."

Good article Field.

Bob said...

If Colin Powell hadn't ruined his rep working for Bush, & if Repugs were capable of choosing a candidate who didn't even pretend to lose sleep over what gay folks do in bed, yeah, he'd get a lot of black votes. I've never noticed that African-Americans are innately political liberals. But even the most strictly religious black Baptists around here seem to know how to prioritize.

Anonymous said...

Field, I'll give you a better example than Lynn Swann and Michael Steele. Here in Tennessee, Black folks chose a white Democrat over an African-American Democrat for Congress in Memphis. Airline executive Nikki Tinker was accused of running a racially tinged campaign against a white opponent in a city that has a majority of African Americans. Black voters overwhelmingly rejected Tinker, who is also black, and backed her white opponent, Rep. Steve Cohen, because they didn't like her campaign and felt he had a solid history of supporting civil rights and other liberal causes important to them.

Anonymous said...

If Obama were white, he'd be ahead by 20 points.

RedLipstick said...

Anon 7:54 I'm aware of that example. My cousin lives in Memphis and says that same thing.

Here's the bottom line--if O had run as a Repub we know for sure that he would not be the nominee.

(1) Blacks would not support a Repub in large numbers b/c that would be voting against their interest.

(2) White Repubs would not support him in large numbers--they liked Colin b/c he was a military guy but I don't believe they would have nominated him for the top spot or O if he was a Repub.

EzMun said...

Bob raises a good point about Colin Powell. To tell the truth, I believe that Colin Powell is probably the best example as to how most Black folks lean politically. To simplify, Powell is a moderate fiscally, but leans moderate to progressive (I wouldn't say "liberal") on the social issues. Most Black people I know fall into this camp.

As a group you don't find Black people in large numbers in the Republican party, because the Republican party is openly hostile in their condescension to all social issues. And for Black folk social issues take higher priority over fiscal issues because of our obvious social history in Amur-ca.

To me it comes down to social issues for us. We don't vote for folks who we don't consider to value or prioritize social justice. It's just that simple. Even today--even with the Bush stench, Powell would still get the vote of most Black people. We respect social justice that much.

Anonymous said...

I actually believe the majority of Blacks would vote for White Obama. If fact white Obama wouldn't even need our vote because he would have been the only person on the ticket that wasn't a woman or old as molasses.

Obama just happens to be the best option out of the field. I am black and I don't agree with everything he says. Neither do I care to vote for the president I usually vote on the things that effect me. This time it's actually worth voting for instead of dumb and dumberer.

Blacks don't always turn out in these numbers and it's not because he's black otherwise Jesse would have gotten everyone to vote. It's because we know he is the best choice and he just happens to be black.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

I am voting for Obama because it is my right as an American citizen to vote for the candidate of my choice. It just so happens that Obama is the candidate of my choosing.

He is intelligent, has integrity, and class. Obama has superior interpersonal communication skills, and I like where he stands on the issues. He is wise and strong as steel, which is obvious and evident by all the racist BS that has had thrown his way and yet he still manages to stay focus on the issues. He is smooth and a gentleman. Obama is not a negative thinking person. He knows how to pronounce leaders of different countries names, and knows the difference between our allies and enemy. He is not a bomb happy warmonger and has good common sense. Obama is a good husband and father who truly loves his wife and treats her with the utmost respect.

McCain on the other hand is crazier than a road lizard. He acts like he is just itching to start a war with not just our enemies but also our allies. He is a big liar and a cheat. MCain disrespects his wife in public and that lets me know how he has no respect for women in general. That comment he made about Chelsea Clinton when she was just a child, lets me know that he is mean to kids. He has lapses of memory. Picking Palin, let me know that he lacks good judgment. He doesn't even know the names of other countries leaders. McCain is for rich folks and could care less about those who are not rich. He is an adulter. He is a mean old goat that needs to take an anger management class, but I doubt if that would help him, because he is set in his ways. He is stubborn. McCain is a racist and does not like blacks, hispanics, or Asians, or gay people. McCain has no original thoughts or ideas of his own, because he steals some of Obama's thoughts and ideas and claims them as his own. He is too old to be running for anything, he needs to be thinking about retirement, because he is going through the first stages of dementia and it's obvious and Ray Charles could see that. McCain wants to privatize Social Security and mess with Seniors medical plans. He has a bad temper and I wouldn't trust him near that button, because he might go off half cock and push it when he has one of his temper tantrums. He is a bully and holds grudges. McCain is a butthole. He is not presidential material.

Anonymous said...

AMEN to GrannyStandingforTruth. I'm glad someone else sees that something is very wrong with McCain and Palin. Palin is crazy. She reminds me of those cultist people. We need to be fearful of anyone getting divine messages from God or for that matter saying anything in the name of God. Many horrible things in history have come from those so call messages. All we need is some Jackass in office talking about pushing the big red button because God told them to. Jeez.

Anonymous said...

Comrade PhysioProf said...
"Dude, people who are voting Democratic in this election would vote for a [sic] labrador retriever if he or she was the Democratic nominee"

Yes, I would, but isn't nice we have such a great candidate? Mrs. Palin was talking about McCain's experience to fix the financial situation. You would really prefer to have someone smart enough and agile brained enough to be able to look forward to new solutions and reapply former solutions...instead of just having a track record? Today not yesterday.

Shonda Little said...

I think the Sarah Palin pick further proves your point. I know that being a woman isn't the same as being black, but I think the white establishment views anyone that isn't them, the ruling class Protestant white male that Bill O'Reilly describes himself and John McCain as being, sees us all the same. Or at least they think that each group gets together and decides collectively how to vote.
And that is in part how they drew Sarah Palin's name out of a hat. They thought the disgruntled Hillary voters, many of whom were black, would get all ga-ga about Sarah because she has a vagina. Instead, they gave Obama the biggest gift of all. Rather than luring my friends who had their feelings hurt over Hillary's lose, they fired them up behind our guy.
Also, do these people not know that Donna Brazile, one of the most powerful political forces in America, worked for Hillary? Donna is a black woman. If she were supporting candidates based upon their race and gender, she wouldn't have even been working for Barack. She would have been working for the Green Party candidate Cynthia McKinny, a black woman.
I love your examples of Alan Keyes and Lynn Swann. I'll go one further. It's too bad McCain couldn't nominate two veeps. I would love to see how wound up black Americans would be if Condi on the ticket.
I'm not black, so I don't want to suggest that I have been pigeon-holed as a woman in the same way that you have been up the media and the Right. But, they do often incorrectly think that we can be smitten by a candidate just because she has a vag.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous 3:17 PM:

Palin is goofy and sneaky. That's my opinion of her.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

However, if McCain says she is his soulmate, well...
That means they think alike, have a lot in common, and are just alike in many ways. That's not a good thing if that is true, because McCain has some serious psychological problems.

Anonymous said...

Why do blacks vote for democrats in general?
Didn't the demcrat party create the KKK, call their conventions klanbakes, lynched blacks, used dogs and hoses in selma, fillerbusted the civil rights act, etc?
Is all that really less offensive than some "southern strategy?"

Anonymous said...

The democratic party did not create the KKK, they were the slave overseers who stopped blacks and asked to see their papers. overseer-changed to officer. Racist whites of both parties were in the KKK stop spreading nonsense try actually learning history.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous 3:33:

Why don't you ask why blacks don't vote for Republicans. The Republican national convention example of why we don't vote for Republicans, because it's obvious they don't represent every race in the USA. The Republicans just represent those lily white racist who believe in the good ole boys network and way of doing things.

Just the other day, one of the women representatives in the Republican party made a racist statement linking Fannie Mae to the door being opened to Blacks and minorities. Why would blacks want to vote for a party with those type of views? There is not one black in the Republican party in the House of Representatives or Senate, that right there tells me a whole lot about Republican views towards minorities. In addition, most Republicans are crazier than a road lizard, not all of them, quite a few, especially McCain.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

I am a woman, and I'm sick and tired of MSM trying to dictate how Biden should debate with Palin. What he can and can't say to her,because she is a woman. MSM wants Biden to walk on eggshells with Missy Palin. The way I see it, if Palin can deal with being treated as an equal to a man politician, then she should stay at home and bake cookies. Politics is a tough business, and you can't wear your feelings on your sleeves or break down and cry.

Biden shouldn't have to walk on eggshells or treat her any different, and I feel like MSM is trying to stack the deck against Biden to help Palin win. That is not fair. She can say whatever she wants and it is okay and she's given a pass, but if Biden is too hard on her it's look at in another way. Bulldung!

What if she becomes President, do you think those foreign leaders are going to take that into consideration that she is a woman? I doubt that very serious, because there are nations that don't even respect women and consider them second-class citizens with no rights. If she can't run with the big dogs, she can't pee with the puppies.

I don't think she should get the kid glove treatment just because she is a woman, because she could wind up being the President of the USA and no foreign country is going to be easy on her. She ought to be able to take a punch just like her male counterparts. Because like I said the world of politics is tough and she will mostly be dealing with men from other foreign countries who are not going to use kid gloves.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

"The way I see it, if Palin can deal with being treated as an equal to a man politician, then she should stay at home and bake cookies."

I meant to say *can't*. Sorry, was typing to fast.

Anonymous said...

I finally figured out what I don't like about the faked up picture of Mr. Obama as a white man.

It is the Sarah Paylin type bangs. I would feel funny about any man that wore bangs like that! LOL

Francis Holland said...

Some of us are old enough to have voted for Dukakis over Bush. So how did we Blacks choose between the Greek guy and the Brahmin, without skin color to guide us?

Well, I know this is hard for some people to grasp, but we looked at whose politics were most similar to our own and, as is virtually if not always the case, we voted for the Democrat because his politics were more similar to ours. We also voted for him because his associates hated us less than Bush's associates did.

But, Dukakis lost and Bush won, and Bush put Clarence Thomas on the US Supreme Court.

Clarence Thomas may have black skin, but there aren't five Black households in a thousands who would invite him to Sunday dinner, much less endorse any of his bullshit.

Anonymous said...

Then how do you explain the lopsided voting in the democratic primary. The percentage of whites that voted for Clinton and the percentage of blacks that voted for Obama.

Anonymous said...

George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years.
The first six the economy was fine.

A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%
4) The DOW JONES hit a record high-- 14,000 +
5) American's were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!

But American's wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006
they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes--we got 'CHANGE'
all right.
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted
2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon
and climbing!
3) Unemployment is up to 5.5%
(a 10% increase)
4) Americans have seen their home equity
and prices are still dropping
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure
6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another






Poor people have been voting for democrats for 50 years and they are still poor. The democrats keep the oppressed people oppressed by making them slaves to the government when they offer all of these programs to help people that are able to work but won't because the government is handing them a monthly paycheck. People get so mad at Republicans because they want to help companies big and small with tax breaks. When was the last time a poor man offered you a job. I do believe people are going to vote for or against Obama based on race, and some strictly because of party affiliation. I wish more Americans would vote based on their own research of a potential candidate. I am a conservative Christian American registered Independent, I don't fault anyone for their beliefs if they believe differently than I, but I do know several conservative African-Americans that are voting for Obama strictly because he is a black man. They don't know what he stands for, what his plans for our country are, all they know is he is going to change things. That is their right, because we all live in a FREE country. I think voting based on race or party is ignorant. I would like to see where one day party affiliation doesn't matter and people vote based on how closely the candidates values match their own.

"I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." by Martin Luther King Jr.
This is something we should all try to do, no matter what color we are. Do you think Martin Luther King Jr. would have supported a candidate that supports partial birth abortions just because he is black? Do you think spending more money on programs is going to fix the economy? I heard Obama say he was going to fix the economy from the bottom up, which means most of the working people that make above $30,000 a year wont qualify for anything. How many stimulus checks did everyone get when Clinton was in office? Yet he supposedly balanced the budget and had a surplus of money. By the way in my house if their is still a deficit in the banking account then the budget is not balanced, Clinton did reduce spending and did not add to the overall deficit for 2 years while he was in office, but when he left office our country still had a deficit. Again do the the research. Obama wants to spend a lot of money, he is going to tax business'. Some of you say great he needs too. What does a business do when their taxes or materials go up, they pass it on to the consumer. We will pay one way or the other.

Anonymous said...

Blacks DO NOT always vote for Democratics .. if that was the case then how the hell did Bush get the last two terms... you lieing ass people! There are blacks on TV admitting that the only reason they voted for Obama is because he is black!!! And are you SERIOUS??? O Man is what you refer the president as???? PATHETIC AND IGNORANT!!

Anonymous said...

You have it correct about the other races, yet the Hispanics would never vote for each other. I'm PuertoRican, and although I would vote for a Dominican, I'll be damned if I vote for fucking Columbian or a goddamn Cuban.....they're shit to me. and that is how they think about us. so, no, if I found out his name was Sanchez, which is usually Mexican, I'd never vote for his faggot ass.

Blacks are voting for democrats because they don't bother to read about the candidates if they ever read at all. I've worked in a library in a black neighborhood....those books were pristine clean becuase all they wanted to do was either read the magazine, rent the popular movies, or get on the damn internet.....pathetic people if you ask me. only good enough to fuck, LOL

Anonymous said...

About the picture,What the devil!Field Negro, the picture is wrong! It's just downright hideous-and hilarious!

Anyway, Republicans who claim to be so colorblind, would probably vote for somebody white to if they had a choice between a staunch white or black republican! They are quick to pull out the race card annytime somebody black do something they do not like. They have been tired!

Anonymous said...

What is truly insane, yet ironic, about the black community's love for Democrats is the accusations of republican-induced racism and a complete ignorance to the true history of DEMOCRAT-induced racism. So while Lincoln and FDR are being cited as much as "transparency" and "crisis" these days, riddle me these memories:

1) the chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act were Democrat Senators Sam Ervin, Albert Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd

2) Democrat Senator Harry Reid who slurred Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas as someone who could not write good English. Also, don't forget who refused Burris entry into the Senate this year...your brother from another mother, Harry Reid.

3) Democrats did not denounce Democrat Christopher Dodd who praised Senator Robert Byrd as someone who would have been "a great senator for any moment," including the Civil War; yet Democrats denounced Senator Trent Lott for his remarks about Senator Strom Thurmond who was never in the Ku Klux Klan and, after he became a Republican, defended blacks against lynching and the discriminatory poll taxes imposed on blacks by Democrats,

4) Democratic Senator John F. Kerry who denounced affirmative action on the floor of the Senate in the 1990's

5) Bill Clinton refused to enforce a court-ordered affirmative action plan while president and was himself sued for discriminating against his black employees while he was the Governor of Arkansas.

6) B.H. Obama, while he was a Senator, provided funding for slum projects in Chicago that kept blacks trapped in rat and roach infested housing, as well as while he was a US senator voted against the minimum wage bill and wrote a letter of support for former Klansman Robert Byrd that helped that racist win re-election.

7) Republican President Richard Nixon began enforcement of Affirmative Action as a merit-based system to help African Americans prosper with his 1969 Philadelphia Plan (crafted by black Republican Art Fletcher) that set the nation's first goals and timetables, as well as his 1972 Equal Employment Opportunity Act that made merit-based Affirmative Action programs the law of our nation, but Democrats turned Affirmative Action into an unfair quota system;

8) Republican Senator Everett successfully fought to pass civil rights laws in the face of strong opposition to civil rights laws by the Democrats, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. hailed Senator Dirksen's "able and courageous leadership;" and "The Chicago Defender," the largest black-owned daily at that time, praised Senator Dirksen "for the grand manner of his generalship behind the passage of the best civil rights measures that have ever been enacted into law since Reconstruction,"

9) Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois, not Democrat President Lyndon Johnson, who was key to the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and Dirksen was also instrumental to the enactment of civil rights legislation in 1957 and 1960, as well as the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing.

10) Democratic President John F. Kennedy was not a civil rights advocate because he: voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Law (that was pushed by Republican President Dwight Eisenhower); opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. (that was organized by black Republican A. Phillip Randolph); authorized the FBI (supervised by his brother, Attorney General Robert Kennedy) to wiretap and investigate Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. on suspicion of being a communist in order to undermine that Civil Rights leader; was later criticized by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. for ignoring civil rights issues; and only grudgingly agreed to make a telephone call to get Dr. King, Jr. out of the Birmingham jail after members of the King family requested Kennedy's help.

11) Democrat President Harry Truman not only rejected Republican efforts to enact anti-lynching laws and establish a permanent Civil Rights Commission, but also failed to enforce his 1948 Executive Order designed to desegregate the military, an order that was not effectively enforced until Republican President Dwight Eisenhower was elected.

12) After taking control of Congress in the late 1800's, the Democratic Party passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil rights legislation passed by the Republicans, including the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875,

13) The Ku Klux Klan was founded in 1866 by Democrats as a Tennessee social club; the Ku Klux Klan became a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party, the planter class, and all those who desired the restoration of white supremacy; and the Ku Klux Klan spread into other Southern states, launching a 'reign of terror' against Republican leaders, black and white.

14) Gun Control became a Democrat issue only after the Black Panther Party was seen armed and militant. Afterall, an unarmed militia is not a threat nor a voice.

15) Remember that the Democrats have racism as a benefit to their cause by promoting FREE whereas republicans, like Dr. M.L. King, promote FREEDOM. If you can perpetuate it, you can then profit from it.

Now these points are historical facts that ANYONE can verify. Now knowing this, why do Democrats ALWAYS run on a social programs platform to give the poor opportunities? Has welfare ever benfitted anyone you know? Has any social program "sold" to the black community by a Democrat actually work? Like a crack dealer, Democrats give just enough to the black community to keep them coming back for more while relentlessly providing a handout instead of a hand up as promised. The Democrat philosophy has ALWAYS been that you are incapable of governing or advancing yourself but instead NEED the Democrats to get you what you need. Have they ever gotten you what you need? Really?

I don't cite these points to entice hatred but simply point out that niether party has the black community's interest at heart any farther than it serves their best interests. Democrats are perhaps the most guilty individuals to tell the black community that they are helpless, a minority, prison-bound.

While it can be percieved that Republicans are self-indulgent racists, the black community simply does not want to hear the likes of Obama, Cosby, or Keyes tell the black community to be more accountable for self without wanting to cut their f-ing balls off. It is not anymore accurate to say that blacks voted for Obama because he is black than it is to say that whites that didn't vote for him were racists.

ONeil14 said...

Sweet! That's my White Obama picture! I made that for a flier :D

Anonymous said... silly. The lies I'm reading. Obama is no different than Bush than Clinton than..... What I am really seeing is young "whites" be blamed for the past. Fair enough ? it will just go around and around and come back around. All Great Empires Fall from With-In.
(when will a prezz have a vowel @the end of his/her name? That's right Italians are all crooked and stupid)

Anonymous said... silly. The lies I'm reading. Obama is no different than Bush than Clinton than..... What I am really seeing is young "whites" be blamed for the past. Fair enough ? it will just go around and around and come back around. All Great Empires Fall from With-In.
(when will a prezz have a vowel @the end of his/her name? That's right Italians are all crooked and stupid)

Jilian said...

Blacks voted for Obama because he is with it. They never came out to vote in such large numbers EVER until a 1/2 black man ran for president. bet. I am willing to bet that the next election, assuming there are two white men, very few black people will bother to come out to vote. This is keeping trend from past election data...

Honestly, the only black person that would not get elected is Bill Cosby. ;-) The man tells the truth...and anyone with a "Obama phone" does not want to hear that...

So sad...